Review: Resistance 2

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Aries_Split said:
Smokescreen said:
Hm. One of the criticisms of the first Resistance, if I recall, was that it didn't do anything new, but what it did do it did very well, and that was fine.

That's pretty much what I'm hearing now, too; this game doesn't do anything new, and that's what's wrong with it.

There is no real discussion of why it doesn't work, just that you've seen it before, and that's a problem for this reviewer. He doesn't really point out where it isn't fun, or is broken somehow, and so I'm having trouble seeing the ire here. Maybe he expected more out of it?
Exactly my thoughts.

I would like to see this man give a review of Halo 3.

This could be almost a carbon copy of said review, more than likely, the review for Halo 3 would be positive.

Each person has his own opinion, but unless all Mr.Endo's reviews focus on the negative parts of gameplays, I find it hard to believe this one.
My point exactly, and he completely missed the co-op and multiplayer aspects.
 

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D_987 said:
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D_987 said:
After hearing so much bull about this game its nice to hear an honest review about it. If this was Halo you guys would be all over it, yet Resistance does the same thing and you defend it...I don't get it.

To whoever mentioned Gears of War, its not very repetitive if you've played it...
Your right. Running from cover to cover shooting other enemies in cover isn't repetitive at all. Please, don't tell me about those "awesome vehicle segments" or the on rails segment. Gears 2 is worse than the original
Fanboy?
Grammar Nazi?

State your business - what you fail to see is that, that is my opinion of Resistance, a shooter that brings nothing new to the table - it just steals bits of other games food. You on the other hand, attack my view of Gears because...

Well I don't know...
I don't consider it an attack, more of a discussion. I'm really not sure why your being so defensive. And Grammar Nazi? What?
 

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Its not fun blasting aliens with crazy laser guns and air-fuel grenades?

Go read Twilight and play Braid

Nub.
 

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D_987 said:
After hearing so much bull about this game its nice to hear an honest review about it.
Hey, don't just take this place's opinion as the word dude. The vast majority of people - myself included - have loved it, so check some other reviews or summin' before making a final judgement.
 

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Uninspiring environments? I usually don't say this about reviewer, but did he play the game. There are some moments that are freaking amazing, like looking down on hundreds of miles of farmland from the top of a tower. Most of what Endo says is true and certainly R2 doesn't reinvent the wheel, but the game sucks you in regardless. I will say that I'm not as fond of the story or singleplayer as I was in R1, but the multiplayer and coop, which apparently he hasn't played much of, works extremely well.
 

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Uhh, no landmark?
Do you not recall seeing the golden gate bridge?

Well that is unless your reffering to locations you can actually 'shoot' aliens in...

As for its clicheness.
I ask the reviewer this.
Name a game Made this YEAR that isn't 'cliche'?
And yes, LittleBigPlanet is 'cliche', you can point out anything in ANY game that has been done in another game, and I find this a very poor arguement about how 'good' or 'bad' a game is.
I played it, the story was medicore as far as FPS's go. (NO where NEAR as bad as Hazes... god that was a disapointment! Soooo much hype for... that?)
No where near as intricate as MGS was, but thats an analomoly as far as games go...
The Gigantic Bosses, and the Multi-player really seemed to be insomniacs focus for this game... Hopefully the 3rd game will combine the best of R, and the best of R2..
As for the multi-player, I definately find that to be highly entertaining, and the co-op is extremely intense!
On a side note to the Reviewer. There are tons of skirmish maps up, infact trying to find one that isn't full is a pain...
 

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You know I could write the same review for every shooter that isn't Doom 1 if I wanted to. I could have said the same thing about Half Life 2, but you know what Half Life 2 was and is a solid game, the same is true for R2 really. What's the point of reviewing FPS' for sameness when the entire genre has been dead for about a decade or so honestly? Now there are plenty of things that are actually wrong with the gameplay but you do not delve into these things.... The review can be boiled down into a two page rant on how allegedly generic R2 is which is pretty sad since there are valid criticisms to be leveled at this game.
 

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Whoa, brave! And to think a guy under gameplay discussion was pissed because someone 'only' gave it a 9.1

Wait till he gets a load of this. Anyway, *clapclap*\

Still I don't know if it's fair to complain so much about Resistance 2 (really don't know, havn't played it!). While starting a revolution against shallow pretty games IS a noteworthy cause, is it right to start said crusade against a game that's -reasonably- good? I wouldn't be so harsh- don't say "don't buy this game", say, "wait a few months for it to go down about $10 in price before you buy it, or Rent it first"
 

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TsunamiWombat said:
Whoa, brave! And to think a guy under gameplay discussion was pissed because someone 'only' gave it a 9.1

Wait till he gets a load of this. Anyway, *clapclap*\

Still I don't know if it's fair to complain so much about Resistance 2 (really don't know, havn't played it!). While starting a revolution against shallow pretty games IS a noteworthy cause, is it right to start said crusade against a game that's -reasonably- good? I wouldn't be so harsh- don't say "don't buy this game", say, "wait a few months for it to go down about $10 in price before you buy it, or Rent it first"
The worst part of this review is that he doesn't seem to say that the gameplay is somehow poorly executed in addition to being "generic" Although frankly having elements in common with other games in the same genre is kind of expected. But yea that guy in gameplay would flip over this review though I think in this case it is more justified because the review doesn't say that R2 fails at anything just that it's a member of a specific genre.
 

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*** SPOILER ALERT ***
The final paragraph contains a few hints about R2's story, avoid reading it if you don't want to ruin the surprise of the actual game.

Ok. I'm sorry, but this review is simply not accurate.

R2 is a very fine shooter. It's not a puzzle game, it's not an RPG, it's not a platformer, and it should be judged by the standards of its genre. One of the biggest problems of the shooter is (1) mission creep - the addition of extra padding, overpowered vehicles, and escort missions which waste the player's time, (2) execrably bad voice-acting and dialogue (Gears, I'm looking at you), and (3) imperialism. Yes, imperialism - more on this in a bit. R2 avoids all three problems with commendable dexterity.

Now, you can argue with the game mechanics - I would have liked more weapons, but that's just me. But R2 is NOT a generic collection of cliches. The action is nonstop, the pacing is superb, there isn't a single wasted line or padded mission in the game, and the team coop is just outrageous, stupendous fun. And the story is quite subtle: R2 resists, pun intended, the stereotypes of its own genre. Almost every single other shooter ever made has one story: Brave Heroic Marble-Jawed Space Marines blow up evil, swarming, vaguely East Asian lizard aliens bent on whatever it is that vaguely East Asian lizard aliens do for a living. Usually on foreign worlds humanity just happened to colonize, because we humans are just soooooo good at taking care of planets, right?

But R2 takes all the neocolonial stereotypes of a century of American Empire and turns them on their head. Basically, its an alternate world where aliens do to the US what the US Empire did to the planet in the 1950s - neocolonize it. The sense of planetary doom, the subtle cues about race and gender, and most of all, the backstory, where it turns out human beings have unleashed the worst violence against themselves - these are a refreshing change for the shooter genre.

*** SPOILER PARAGRAPH ***

You have been warned!


*** SPOILER PARAGRAPH ***

Think of the second-to-last level, set in Louisiana. The action takes place in old plantation house. Think about it: plantations, symbols of three hundred years of colonialism and slavery, systems whose after-shocks we are still wrestling with. And then the throwaway line about how humanity is reduced to a few million survivors - a reference to the demographic catastrophe of colonialism, where 15-30 million indigenous Americans perished, mostly due to European-introduced disease. Insomniac deserves huge props for creating a game willing and able to speak directly to our sad, violent history as a species, in ways other game companies can't or won't.
 

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I didnt buy this even though a clan I am part of swears by it. I am waiting for a copy from gamefly to try it out. The FPS genre in itself is starting to really lose it's draw for me unless it has something that really stands out. The 1st Resistance was a good game though I rented that one as well. Solid but not jaw dropping and just didnt strike me as a must buy. Looks like R2 is in the same boat.
 

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You know I just got out of the shower and it hit me, the review itself is generic, it just says that the game is generic without teling me what did and did not work etc. Irony is such a beautiful thing.
 

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James Raynor said:
OMG NORMAL HOUSES LOOK LIKE.... NORMAL HOUSES!

Geez...


There's probably no land marks because of the fiasco with the church thing.


And seriously, do you think the PS3 can handle the flying ships, a city, AND what goes on in the actual game play?
HAHA you are an idiot the ps3 has way enough power learn stuff before you critisize it.

Ok look i have played the beta. I think that it rocked. Obviously you didn't have much fun online due to the fact that IT ISN'T OUT YET DUHHHH no one will be on apart from other reviewers like you. Ok next i like the game it has a lot of original things. First of all 2 campaighns Usually game developers just slap the original capaighn on for show but resistance 2 has one for single player where you play a human / chimera hybrid person who is super strong and can take on hunderd of enemies and then there is the other campaign which you play as average soldiers (i fogot there name) and you need to work as a team to get through.

Another original thing is the 60 player online maps. Yes you couldn't find one but that is because it isn't out yet. During the beta it is amazing. Even playing people across the world and me here in australia i get NO LAG none wat so ever. I also love the water physics they have put into the game. It looks like real water. I love killing people off a building to have there body fall into the ocian and see the water break like real water, so there is something sort of new. Here is anther thing. The weapons design yes weapons have came and gone but not many games have such creative weapons as resistance2. Halo had the "plasma rifle" hey? Well this game has a gun with a blade on the end and you can spin it up to shoot at people so it sticks to them and continues to shred.

Apart from what i have mentianed above the game has heaps more. I love the community aspect you can easily join friends parties and go to a game with then with no problems and you can also level up your player to unlock better weapons.

So before you judge a game on what isn't new just think about it. Hardly any games now days have unique gameplay you just can't bag one game for doing it when all the others do it to. While your at it go bag fable 2 for bieng another rts game or go back little big planet for bieng a platformer. You need to look at the new stuff in games. Like how little bigplanets art design and gameplay mesh together.

So yeah that is what i had to say....

BTW I WAS NOT BAGGING LBP LBP ROCKS AND IS THE BEST GAME EVER HANDS DOWN AND IF I EVER SAY THESE WORDS AGAIN RIP MY THROUT OUT NOW!!!
 

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shadow skill said:
You know I just got out of the shower and it hit me, the review itself is generic, it just says that the game is ggeneric without teling me what did and did not work ec. Irony is such a beautiful thing.
Ahh...Enlightenment.

A truly beautiful thing.
 

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While the review was fairly well written, it had an undermining sense of bitterness about it, as if the reviewer was reprimanding a child with poor grades. He sounded disappointed in the game. However, I must commend him for reviewing it with little regard to the game's popularity.

One side point: the guns in the Resistance series are quite original. Few to none of them are direct copies from other games. I mean, what other game has a gun that shoots giant plasma bolts that get more powerful the more walls they go through?
 

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meatloaf231 said:
While the review was fairly well written, it had an undermining sense of bitterness about it, as if the reviewer was reprimanding a child with poor grades. He sounded disappointed in the game. However, I must commend him for reviewing it with little regard to the game's popularity.

One side point: the guns in the Resistance series are quite original. Few to none of them are direct copies from other games. I mean, what other game has a gun that shoots giant plasma bolts that get more powerful the more walls they go through?
Resistance: Fall of Man.

:p
 

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It seems a lot like the reviewer is being negative just for the sake of it. I can't help but think that he'd made up his mind before even playing the game.
This has been pretty much the first negative thing I've heard about the game, so I reckon I'm still gonna pick it up somewhere along the line.

On a more positive note though, nice to see The Escapist publishing more critical reviews, some of the reviews recently have felt more like adverts than reviews. *cough* Fallout 3 *cough*
 

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haruvister said:
I've not played R2, so I can't comment on that directly. Yet Mr Endo's review could so easily apply to R1, which I HAVE played. Which would mean that he's basically describing a two year-old game which was, let's face it, already deeply mediocre in its gameplay and eye-avertingly derivative in its production design. It's not the job of professional reviewers to seek a game's qualities in spite of its wealth of deficiencies. I mean, I love Viking: Battle For Asgard, but show me a journalist who scores it above six out of ten and I'll call him or her an unprincipled cretin.
So one should only give a superficial look at the game with the mindset of actively not looking for the quality of it?
No. I mean a professional reviewer (or, if you prefer, critic) isn't doing his job if he provides a reasoned analysis, as Mr Endo seems to have done, only to sweep all his criticisms aside in his conclusion due to some irrational personal love (such as mine for Viking). Mr Endo concludes that R2 is satisfactory at best, therefore average - "mediocre".
 

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Dom Camus said:
Trouble with the "more of the same" argument is there are players who like that. Who are we to deprive them of their fun?

(Yes, I too am too busy with Little Big Planet to play this...)
True: on the basis of not giving players 'more of the same' we might never have seen Dead Space, for instance - surely a game with absolutely no originality in it's bones, but what a polished and beautiful game to play, regardless.

I'm really tired of these arguments about 'originality over polish'.

I don't have a PS3, and I've never played Resistance 1 or 2.