Review: Sonic Adventure XBLA
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GamesB2 said:
Ahh Sonic CD, fun times trying to get into the future time zone...
OT: Aahaahaa, this game, I remember the hours I repeat HOURS me and my freind wasted in this game trying to get the Big missions done just so we could get the Golden question mark story. It's definately worth the 800 MP, I thought it was quite cheap as well..
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Thank the lord Sonic The Hedgehog 06 wasn't the official SA3, that would have been suicidle.Darktau said:
(Had nice soundtrack though..)
All i can remember is sonic had been framed, for something shadow had done =S but i didnt know cause i never finished it.slutmonkey8 said:That may have been Sonic Adventure 2. That scene sounds familiar and it definitely had Shadow in it.arc1991 said:What's the sonic game where on the first mission your using a bit of a plane as a sort of, surf board?
That was my favourite sonic game, i think it was the first to have Shadow the Hedgehog in it...
i want that on XBL
This most certainly does NOT have the dated controls of the DC version. Rather, it has the similarly dated, more broken controls of the PC version. Play the DC version again, you'll find it controls more fluid, and is considerably better looking (no shiny Sonic).
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Heh. I played through the PC version - Obviously, the controls on that suck an extra 1000% (especially since I was without the benefit of a gamepad)
Still, it was fun.
I do remember it on the dreamcast as well though - Funnily enough, the two things I remember are the orca, and... The dreamcast crashing and showing a very familiar windows error message in the process. XD
(the dreamcast ran Windows CE, believe it or not... So in a way, you could say it was the predecessor of the Xbox.)
Still, it was fun.
I do remember it on the dreamcast as well though - Funnily enough, the two things I remember are the orca, and... The dreamcast crashing and showing a very familiar windows error message in the process. XD
(the dreamcast ran Windows CE, believe it or not... So in a way, you could say it was the predecessor of the Xbox.)
For anyone who never played it, get it. It was Sonic's first great jump into the new generation. Any Russ, your voice is really good at showing that you have no interest in this game at all. Monotone, uninspiring. Alittle enthusiasm would assist in selling interest in the game. But given the words you used and the final score, maybe your voice had its purpose.
Agreed, after awhile his voice sounded so monotonous as to be painful to hear. Show a little emotion! I'm not asking you to be excited, just alive.bor3ds0ul said:
You know, I always kind of liked Big the Cat. Yeah, I know, he's a dreadful character, I'm not going to pretend he isn't, but there was something about his patheticness that I found oddly endearing. That and his affection for Froggy.
Also, Sonic Adventure 2 sucked canal water. Sonic Adventure started the "let's chuck extraneous characters in here" trend, but SA2 really ran with it. Rouge the Bat, people. That's all I'm saying. (Not as bad as Charmy Fucking Bee, but still pretty damn dreadful.)
Also, Sonic Adventure 2 sucked canal water. Sonic Adventure started the "let's chuck extraneous characters in here" trend, but SA2 really ran with it. Rouge the Bat, people. That's all I'm saying. (Not as bad as Charmy Fucking Bee, but still pretty damn dreadful.)
Wow Russ this game was way more painfully boring for you then your words were letting on. It sounds more like "Good damn it...this is just...terrible? Do I really have to do this? Pffffffffff fine...I'll try. Uuuuggggg soooooooo boooooored, are we done yet? what do you mean its only been 2 minuets?
Either Russ was sick for this review or he REALLY didn't want to do this one. What was up with the drab tone of voice and all those pauses halfway... through a sentence? Sonic is dead to me now, if no-one can get excited about any title released under the Sonic banner then it's obviously a dead franchise.
Russ, I love the site and what you've done with it, but...wow, that video supplement. You barely mentioned anything but the core basics of the game (very little time was spent on what was good or bad about it), and what was with the random trailing off and completely monotone voice?
Anyway, I'm still on the fence about this because I'm one of those people who has fond enough memories of this game that a retread might be worth it. But, who knows?
Anyway, I'm still on the fence about this because I'm one of those people who has fond enough memories of this game that a retread might be worth it. But, who knows?
What's Russ talking about, apart from SA2 every sonic game has been different. Heroes had the team switching element, Shadow had the morality element, 06 had the shit element and Unleashed has the werehog. Even if you forget specific gimmicks that make them unique to themselves the gameplay was still different. Heroes you could constantly switch between characters to get through different parts, Shadow had mission objectives for the levels if you wanted to go down a certain route, 06 was... er... uh... okay it was AWFUL... REALLY AWFUL, but it had, okay it was SIMILAR to the character stories in SA1 you played through but the play styles were different, even if they did suck. And Unleashed had constant speed sections, kinda different to SA1, but then there was the werehog sections, which yes dragged on to long (half a fucking hour) were a nice change for me at least. But before someone mentions it, Eggman land can suck it. I'm not making up excuses because I'm a fanboy (even though I sort am) but I just wanted to point that out. Although yeah it has aged quite badly. I do however want to say that I always thought and still think that Russ is the only biased reviewer on this site (see unleashed and ODST review) which is weird considering he spawned such an epic site full of unbiased people. And well I've probably just signed my own death warrant for this site so I'm off.
Here's my argument:
If you like Sonic or have played this game in the past and enjoyed it, you'll more than likely enjoy it again on Live. Be careful, as the controls, as stated in the written review, are a bit more wonky than in the original Dreamcast version (I know this is the PC port... eh).
If not, then there's no real reason for you to grab this and might as well wait for, say, Sonic 4 Ep.1.
As for me, I'm back to making my gangsta-ass super hyper ultra mega Chao (but not a Light Chao, I'm happy with these little monsters being just as they are).
If you like Sonic or have played this game in the past and enjoyed it, you'll more than likely enjoy it again on Live. Be careful, as the controls, as stated in the written review, are a bit more wonky than in the original Dreamcast version (I know this is the PC port... eh).
If not, then there's no real reason for you to grab this and might as well wait for, say, Sonic 4 Ep.1.
As for me, I'm back to making my gangsta-ass super hyper ultra mega Chao (but not a Light Chao, I'm happy with these little monsters being just as they are).
If no one has been able to come up with an idea that could redeem sonic for this last sinful decade by now then i doubt they ever will.
This franchise died out a long time ago and i really think people should start realizing that.
Oh, and yeah... If even the editor in chief of an online gaming magazine can't scrape up enough enthusiasm to make a game sound remotely interesting then i really think some director out there should reconsider what he's doing.
This franchise died out a long time ago and i really think people should start realizing that.
Oh, and yeah... If even the editor in chief of an online gaming magazine can't scrape up enough enthusiasm to make a game sound remotely interesting then i really think some director out there should reconsider what he's doing.
You sound really bored, is it really that bad? Or did you pick the short straw and got stuck doing the review?
The words in brackets up there are the ones that aren't really heard on the voice over but that one should assume are there in order for the piece to make sense.Russ Pitts said:
Now can someone please explain to me why, on a site which usually has such high standards in voice recording and delivery, a review from the editor in chief sounds like it's being spliced together from a bunch of disconnected snippets? Poor form Russ, poor form.
"Arguably the best Sonic title ever made" is right. As in, I'd argue a whole hell of a lot that it isn't even close. Maybe the best 3D title, okay easily the best 3D title (SA2, Heroes, Shadow, '06... Come on, no contest there). Maybe the last good game in the series before it started its constant decline into worse and even worse crap. But the best game of all of them? Hell no. We have this console called the Genesis you see...
See, to make Sonic Adventure better is easy. Just cut Amy and Big from the game as playable characters, and blammo. Game is instantly better. Amy is just Sonic but a lot slower which is completely unnecessary to play as, and Big was just really stupid pointless crap that shouldn't have ever been allowed to ship. That leaves you with Sonic who had really good stages for his first try in 3D, Tails who also had really good stages (basically Sonic's but shorter) and his abilities (instead of putting him in a fucking mech), Knuckles who felt like he got the short end of the stick but ultimately it still worked okay considering you still got to climb and glide all over the place, and E102 who was an amusing side mechanic who didn't overstay his welcome.
So yeah, cut Amy and Big, tighten up the controls, sort out some glitches, get better voice acting, and you have a rather solid game on your hands. Sadly, SEGA just went for the "lazy port" route. That works okay if your game was great to start with, but if it wasn't, that's when you go for the remake instead.
One final thing to say about this port... I personally find it rather sad of SEGA to release it in two parts: You have the $10 regular game, and for $5 more, you can have the DX part. Stupid. The game is over 10 years old, just give up the whole thing for $10 and be done with it.
No matter what the price though, this would always be a bad deal for me. If I want to see how bad the game is by today's standards, I have a Wii and a copy of the GameCube version of this.
And then there was the president. And Shadow, although it would have been a lot better if they just left him where he was at the end of the game instead of having him return, but I guess that's not really Sonic Adventure 2's fault. But I can still blame it for introducing the character.
See, to make Sonic Adventure better is easy. Just cut Amy and Big from the game as playable characters, and blammo. Game is instantly better. Amy is just Sonic but a lot slower which is completely unnecessary to play as, and Big was just really stupid pointless crap that shouldn't have ever been allowed to ship. That leaves you with Sonic who had really good stages for his first try in 3D, Tails who also had really good stages (basically Sonic's but shorter) and his abilities (instead of putting him in a fucking mech), Knuckles who felt like he got the short end of the stick but ultimately it still worked okay considering you still got to climb and glide all over the place, and E102 who was an amusing side mechanic who didn't overstay his welcome.
So yeah, cut Amy and Big, tighten up the controls, sort out some glitches, get better voice acting, and you have a rather solid game on your hands. Sadly, SEGA just went for the "lazy port" route. That works okay if your game was great to start with, but if it wasn't, that's when you go for the remake instead.
One final thing to say about this port... I personally find it rather sad of SEGA to release it in two parts: You have the $10 regular game, and for $5 more, you can have the DX part. Stupid. The game is over 10 years old, just give up the whole thing for $10 and be done with it.
No matter what the price though, this would always be a bad deal for me. If I want to see how bad the game is by today's standards, I have a Wii and a copy of the GameCube version of this.
Not just Rouge the Bat, but the extremely poorly done "love" plot between her and Knuckles. Especially that song in one of his levels, oh lord. It turns that level into a time trial: Finish really fast or suffer under the might of the really dumb lyrics.Susan Arendt said:
And then there was the president. And Shadow, although it would have been a lot better if they just left him where he was at the end of the game instead of having him return, but I guess that's not really Sonic Adventure 2's fault. But I can still blame it for introducing the character.
Because he's playing Sonic Adventure and you feel really really really bored after playing it? Yeah I'm going to go with that.Knoxy said: