Rey is Phasma's daughter.

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Madner Kami said:
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Ezekiel said:
Probably not. Phasma is a sideshow, like Boba Fett. I don't think Rey is Luke or Solo's daughter, though. It would be too predictable.
While it would be predictable, and also a case of spectacularly bad writing, it also wouldn't be out of place for an Abrams directed/written/produced movie series.
Abrams is a complete retard, so everything is possible. The guy thinks that the Death Ray of the Starkiller can somehow miraciously hit three planets in a different system within a matter of seconds after firing (and which are also in visual range to one another... hello Star Trek bullshit repeated times three this time), while the beam visually travels at sublight speed (and technically, should travel at about lightspeed).

Unless one wants to argue that Starkiller Base was built in the very same system, where those other three planets were located as well and nobody noticed it and ridiculed Leia and Co about their obvious observations, one has to assume that the stupidiest and most retarded thing can and will happen on a frequent basis in this series.
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I'm pretty sure the beams struck just the one planet and the moons orbiting it.
Just to clarify, Starkiller Base is in it's own system. The beam it fires travels through hyperspace, which explains it's range. It hits a planet, several moons, and I believe a concentrated fleet just hanging out in space. All of these targets are in the same system, and fairly close together.

I wont argue that it being visible from another planet/system isn't silly, but, come on, it's Star Wars. It's barely science fiction, so you can't expect it to be particularly hard sci-fi.
 

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Each time I see TFA, the more I can see Rey is not related to the Solos or Skywalkers. Even Maz says that her parents are never coming back for her, that she believes that they are dead. 'Don't look to the past, that is gone.' But that Luke could be her chance to belong to a family in the future. No one has put forth that she could be a romantic interest for Luke.

Phasma having a small part in the first one along with her being responsible for the Death Star getting destroyed due to interference from Han Solo mimics Vader from the first Star Wars.

They will probably have Phasma give a big reveal in the next movie, about having to hide her child to keep her from being drafted by the First Order, and ended up serving herself. She also leads the stormtroopers in invading the village at the start of the movie, like Vader did on Leia's ship.

She has a strong connection to the Force, along with being a great pilot, and tech savvy. Snoke (Palpatine?) really wants to get a hold of her, probably to replace Kylo Ren.

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thile this explanation might explain why a higly trained and loyal officer would obey two hostile renegades at gunpoint i see no other point that could possibly make it viable. besides phasma is tall and naturally bulky while rey has a slender frame. while the fathers genes can have a lot to say body shape would be more likely to be inherrited from the mother. also it seems like phasma would at least take some interest in her secret daughter being on starkiller base, which she does not and if she was willing to completely dehumanise herself for half her life just to keep rey safe wouldn't she have saved her there and then rather than leave it to people she doesn't know and hope rey makes it out alive? yes it is extremely annoying how they completely wasted both gwendoline christie and the prospect of phasmas character but this theory simply doesn't hold water
 

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AccursedTheory said:
Not that it makes your interpretation of the movie incorrect, but the expanded material makes that more clear. Finn actually excelled in stormtrooper training, and is shown to be quite adept at violence. He just doesn't share everyone else's view that violence against everyone is ok. He is, however, perfectly capable and willing to kill people if he has to.
Yeah, I'll chime in here, too. Finn was traumatised by the way they slaughted a village wholesale with brutal tactics. Killing soldiers and killing civilians should be somewhat different.

There's even a deleted scene where Finn has a standoff against an unarmed woman with a baby (I think) and eventually lowers his blaster. He can't bring himself to kill these random strangers who have done nothing wrong except maybe been in the vicinity of NOT OBI-WAN.

The First Order, however. He's trying to survive and escape. They were going to reprogram him. I'd feel a little different, myself.

Additionally, I mean, Boyega's performance of Finn starts off stiff. I think he's emulating Poe. His first woohoo or yeah or whatever is so stiff you could support a Hutt on it. I don't think there's anything sudden about this. Poe's among the first real people Finn has metm and I do think he rubs off on Finn, even if Finn's first impulse is still survival and escape.

I'm with you on that. That's why Rebels and Clone Wars are my favorite Star Wars stuff - The movies make it feel like the whole galaxy is just the play ground for 5 or 6 people. The shows and books make it feel like there's actually a galaxy out there, and create room for more numerous and interesting stories where the stakes feel higher, even if they aren't. I'm really excited that they may be bringing that to the big screen.
I've not seen Rebels yet, but Clones Wars had some really good episodes. But yeah, there's this enormous galaxy out there that certainly must have stories to be told. You have bounty hunters, smugglers, Rebels, Imperials, and these struggles have to be happening on more than just Alderaan and the Death Star and Tattooine. Plus whole frontiers, alien cultures, trade negotiations.

I mean, people seem mixed on the lack of lightsabers in Rogue One. I think it'll be freaking great if we can have no or minimal Jedi involvement. I get the Vader hints, but I'm still hoping maybe that's more of a tease. I love lightsabers and the Force and epic duels of destiny, but I still want to see some movies without them. That would be so cool on the big screen.

Though, I have to say, I am a bit disappointed, mainly by the Solo movie. It feels like a step back to the old EU, where even the expanded universe is bogged down by the main characters.
I think I like the idea of the EU more than the EU itself. I mean, at its best, the EU was awesome. But at its average, it seemed like it was overly interested in fellating the main heroes and villains. At its worst, it basically devolved into fanfic wars between authors whose pet characters were X Y or Z. I'm not so much worried about the latter, but the former could be a problem with Han.

Also, I think Han got a pretty complete story and I don't know what they could add that would be of use.

Actually, I'm kind of worried they'll do this with the Kessel Run


And I'll point out I actually liked the Star Trek reboot. Still, I freaking hate that scene.

I think Han's past is best left to our imagination.

...although I probably could have just showed ANY scene from Phantom Menace to make my point.
 

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KoudelkaMorgan said:
Rey is obviously the daughter of Sidious and Ventress. Wouldn't that be fun?
Kind of. But... uh...

I'm not going to spoil anything, just... yah, no.

Well, ok, maybe I'll spoil it, inside of spoilers.

Ventress doesn't survive the Clone Wars
 

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I would be stoked if she were maybe Ezra's daughter. I'd say Kanan's too, but Kanan only has eyes (... too soon?) for Hera, and I believed it's established that cross-species relationships don't produce children.

I'm not staking my entire liking of Rey on to this idea, mind you, but I'd certainly be more invested in both Rebels AND the new movies if Rebels had SOME kind of presence in the films. Ezra is the same age as Luke, and assuming he does actually survive the TV show, I feel like he'd be an important member of the new Jedi. They could easily fit this into the movies without even that much exposition.
 

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Kolby Jack said:
I would be stoked if she were maybe Ezra's daughter. I'd say Kanan's too, but Kanan only has eyes (... too soon?) for Hera, and I believed it's established that cross-species relationships don't produce children.
Humans and Twi'leks can reproduce. They just look kind of jacked up.


So that's a no go.

I'm not staking my entire liking of Rey on to this idea, mind you, but I'd certainly be more invested in both Rebels AND the new movies if Rebels had SOME kind of presence in the films. Ezra is the same age as Luke, and assuming he does actually survive the TV show, I feel like he'd be an important member of the new Jedi. They could easily fit this into the movies without even that much exposition.
I doubt he survives, to be honest, nor Kanan. But if he does...

Ezra and Sabine survive Rebels, but don't become part of the Rebellion proper due to personal reasons (Perhaps Sabine finally gets fed up with the shadow games and being kept in the dark, or Ezra decides that, being a Jedi, his presence is more of a danger to the Rebellion then a help). They go off and do other stuff, striking the Empire on their own. Sometime after the death of the Emperor, they celebrate by settling down and having a daughter, Rey. At this point, Ezra learns of the New Jedi Order, and goes to join up with Luke, leaving Sabine alone with their child for the time being.

Kylo Ren/Snoke do their thing, and Ezra is killed along with the rest of the Jedi recruits. Sabine hears something has gone wrong, and hides Rey while she goes to find out what happened, or to avenge Ezra. She does not survive.

Hows that sound?
 

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Rei's parents are dead or died. They haven't been revealed because of that.
Snoke is a completely new character and isn't anyone in disguise.
 

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KoudelkaMorgan said:
Rey is obviously the daughter of Sidious and Ventress. Wouldn't that be fun?
If she was the daughter of Sidious, that would be quite interesting. Improbable as it probably is.
 

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I'd like to think that Rey is no one's daughter (or at least, nobody of import to the series). To be honest, that wouldn't really surprise me. It's practically in the title of the movie. The Force has awakened. To me, that would imply that it's in more than one family's lineage.
 

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AccursedTheory said:
Kolby Jack said:
I would be stoked if she were maybe Ezra's daughter. I'd say Kanan's too, but Kanan only has eyes (... too soon?) for Hera, and I believed it's established that cross-species relationships don't produce children.
Humans and Twi'leks can reproduce. They just look kind of jacked up.


So that's a no go.

I'm not staking my entire liking of Rey on to this idea, mind you, but I'd certainly be more invested in both Rebels AND the new movies if Rebels had SOME kind of presence in the films. Ezra is the same age as Luke, and assuming he does actually survive the TV show, I feel like he'd be an important member of the new Jedi. They could easily fit this into the movies without even that much exposition.
I doubt he survives, to be honest, nor Kanan. But if he does...

Ezra and Sabine survive Rebels, but don't become part of the Rebellion proper due to personal reasons (Perhaps Sabine finally gets fed up with the shadow games and being kept in the dark, or Ezra decides that, being a Jedi, his presence is more of a danger to the Rebellion then a help). They go off and do other stuff, striking the Empire on their own. Sometime after the death of the Emperor, they celebrate by settling down and having a daughter, Rey. At this point, Ezra learns of the New Jedi Order, and goes to join up with Luke, leaving Sabine alone with their child for the time being.

Kylo Ren/Snoke do their thing, and Ezra is killed along with the rest of the Jedi recruits. Sabine hears something has gone wrong, and hides Rey while she goes to find out what happened, or to avenge Ezra. She does not survive.

Hows that sound?
I'm pretty sure in that episode they mentioned that the kids were NOT the clone's. He's their step-dad. Also, all twi'lek kids in the show were ugly.

That's Numa, who actually appears in Rebels.

I like your theory though. I doubt it would go exactly like that, but it's plausible enough.
 

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I think Han's past is best left to our imagination.
I never read any of the newer SW books. The most recent SW book I read was Splinter of the Minds Eye.
I think the old Han Solo Adventures trilogy was decent. There was smuggling, prison breaks and him constantly having to replace expensive and illegal military grade parts of the Falcon.
 

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In a fictional universe with thousands, if not millions, of planets, why do people insist that everyone be more closely interwoven than your typical high school graduating class?

Phasma may or may not have a bigger role in future films, but there's no more reason she has to be related to any other character than there is for Finn to be discovered to be Lando Calrissian's grandson.