Right Wing or Left Wing?
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I think he means liberalism means believing in rights, which is hypocritical because they're always trying to get rid of rights to guns. Something like that.Xombee said:
Then he compares a liberal taking away rights to Lenin (A communist) setting up a ponzi scheme.
To be fair, dude kind of has a point hidden beneath those layers of illegibility.
Neither! I want National Health Care but don't want too much gun control. I support the idea of Environmentalism but I also like the Death Penalty. I like the idea of Immigrants coming to America but I support the idea that the illegal ones should be thrown out on their asses. So in the end I guess I am, like most people, a mix of the two with some more ideas thrown in.
Makes sense if you suppose that Merteg (no offense if you're not Merteg) is an American. In America socialism and capitalism are opposites. A lot of us yanks don't know that European Parliamentary Socialism and Marxism/Democratic Centralism/Communism aren't the same things.Federalist92 said:
Oh, and for the poll I'm American Centrist Left, left of the Blue Dogs, but nowhere near a Progressive.
I'd describe myself as a Socialist, in the sense of democratic, Nordic-stlye Socialism.
However, the problem with asking people if they consider themselves left or right wing is that the terms are quite relative, for instance:
So, I think it's a bad question unless people elaborate a bit on their actual polical views rather than just their percieved position on the left-right spectrum.
However, the problem with asking people if they consider themselves left or right wing is that the terms are quite relative, for instance:
I would consider the Democratic and Republican parties as right wing, and extremely right wing respectively. But from this person's perspective the Democrats appear quite left wing. I'm sure many of the people who describe as left wing or 'liberal' in this thread would turn out to be quite right wing by my estimation.Destal said:
So, I think it's a bad question unless people elaborate a bit on their actual polical views rather than just their percieved position on the left-right spectrum.
Left wing. Socially I'm pretty much as liberal as you get (I hold this crazy view that criminals are people), I'm a capitalist but all for keeping it regulated since pure capitalism doesn't work all that well (industrial revolution, anyone?), and I'm sure as hell for government healthcare (fun fact: you already have a bureaucrat between you and your doctor; it's called insurance. It also, unless you're rich, serves as a death panel). Then again, I'm American, so what do I know about the left wing?
But I think we can all agree that the two-party system is crap. Really, when party lines become so important, something went wrong.
But I think we can all agree that the two-party system is crap. Really, when party lines become so important, something went wrong.
Still trying to expand my horizons on this sort of subject. But so far, I think I'm a capitalist. It just seems so reasonable to me.
I'm quite a bit left wing myself. And to be honest i think it's very narrow minded how so many americans are devout anti socialists. nobody remembers you for the things you do for yourself, after all. you could be the richest bastard on the planet, and nobody would give a shit.
they're not even that different! You've got the republicans, extreme right wing, and then you've got democrats, slightly less right wing. there's no deviation! it's not tea or coffee, it's milk or sugar!A random person said:
By American standards I'd be an extreme lefty (and have Liberal hurled at me as an insult by the media), but since I live in Europe I don't have to worry about it. Though I do take an interest in American politics, particularly since I feel the 2-party system is what is the cornerstone of everything wrong with that country, politically anyway (and worried the UK is headed the same way, albeit extremely slowly)
I classify myself as centrist. I have a lot of left-leaning views (hence I mostly vote Liberal Democrat at the moment), however I am more conservative regarding immigration. Highly depressed the next government is almost guaranteed to be Conervative (especially what they're planning with education, taxation and the armed forces - and wanting to charge for every GP visit...but I guess that's not really anything to do with the topic).
In short, I guess I can't be defined as a "winger". I always played a Flanker (left of scrum) in rugby, and that sums my position up well - generally playing the centre but covering the near portion of the left wing too
I classify myself as centrist. I have a lot of left-leaning views (hence I mostly vote Liberal Democrat at the moment), however I am more conservative regarding immigration. Highly depressed the next government is almost guaranteed to be Conervative (especially what they're planning with education, taxation and the armed forces - and wanting to charge for every GP visit...but I guess that's not really anything to do with the topic).
In short, I guess I can't be defined as a "winger". I always played a Flanker (left of scrum) in rugby, and that sums my position up well - generally playing the centre but covering the near portion of the left wing too
I am politically neutral, I agree with certain things from both sides and disagree with certain things from both sides. On either side you usually get a load of partisanship.
No...I think he proposes an American stance...O wait, America already has that stance! Yeah, there are plenty of socialist and capitalist policies and ideas in the American government. Sure we have big corporations, but we also have anti-Trust laws. We have taxes, but we also have tax breaks. We have jobless workers, but we also have welfare and unemployment. America is incredibly centrist, and that's why the two-party system works and IS A GOOD THING.Federalist92 said:
Sure we all want the little guy to succeed and then not take advantage of his success. But he will. And that's HUMAN INTEREST. If you want everybody to make the same wages no matter how hard they work you're insane, it'll never happen.
And just as a matter of correction, Capitalism is not very far right. Fascism is right, Socialism is left, America and Britain are in the middle, too close on the scale to tell apart.
