Rise of The Tomb Raider Coming to PC in January

[AndreiCC]

I'm curious if this exclusivity deal went well for any of the parties involved.
I doubt Square Enix won, since their franchise took a big hit in image and I don't know if the money MS gave them made up for the lost sales.
I doubt the players won, since Xbone is less popular system, so they could not play it.
And I also doubt Microsoft won, since because it launched at the same time as Fallout, not a lot of people bought a Xbone just to play Rise.
Sad.

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

I loathe 'classic' Bond for all he represents

Really? But look at how suave and gentlemanly he is ROFL!



I played through the reboot three times so it's not like I think it's a bad game. Far from it. Writing could be better though. A lot better. I still like the old Lara better and I was hoping that she'd be more like her old self in this sequel, but apparently she's not judging by reports. Old Lara just needed to be humanized a bit and she'd be great. Just as new Lara needs to tone down whining and as Yahtzee said, take some responsibility and admit that she does this because she likes it now not because of some false sense of family duty.

 

[Johnny Thunder]

The reboot Tomb Raider games have been a huge improvement in the gameplay department, no doubt. But in my opinion Tomb Raider is not the right platform for the gritty and realistic style, or if it is they're not doing it right.

I played the game on the Xbox 360 and the gameplay was awesome, but I didn't enjoy the tone and the Lara for one bit, so I'm not gonna buy the PC or PS version, I'm not gonna bother with the dlc, and I'm gonna stick to games like Temple of Osiris when I need a Lara Croft fix.

 

[beddo]

I won't get tired of saying: TR2103 killed off the franchise for me, and I do hope this franchise will sink taking with itself as much people involved in its creation as possible. This is a pure offense to the idea and concept of original games, and what they've done to Lara herself is just.... Urgh!

That's an odd thing to say, so you really wish ill of game developers because you don't like a game? This seems like an incredibly asinine comment.

I personally think this is one of the best Tomb Raider games, certainly the strongest 'reboot', and I played through the original on release.

 

[RebornKusabi]

I played three hours of Rise of the Tomb Raider and stopped to sink 70 hours into Fallout 4. The game was amazing but (sorry haters I agree with Greg Miller) I want trophies for my games- it scratches that highj-scoring arcade itch I had in my youth.

I will say for some of the naysayers here, any complaints about Laura's character in the reboot in comparison to this one should be confronted- it seems post-TR reboot, Lara took survival classes and shooting courses because she is NOW the badass Tomb Raider we all know and love. She gets caught at one point in the game and manages to break herself and a prisoner out in seconds, thanks to her new lockpicking talents (apparently none of the guards strip-searched her because that would sexist nowadays to write that...).

If I was an idiot I would say that hews closely to making her a Mary Sue, but she isn't one. She's still mentally damaged, has no friends and clearly has sociopathic tendencies (in the real world, a mass murderer even through defense would be broken) which is much better than the 2-D cardboard cutout old Laura was. Even the first reboot on Xbox 360/PS3 had some mental issues herself.

My only complaint from what I played was that the graphics weren't as pretty as the reboot on PS4 and PC was. So I hope this one coming out in a couple of weeks is a MGS V style port... And less an Arkham Knight/Black Ops III portjob.

 

[Rastrelly]

I won't get tired of saying: TR2103 killed off the franchise for me, and I do hope this franchise will sink taking with itself as much people involved in its creation as possible. This is a pure offense to the idea and concept of original games, and what they've done to Lara herself is just.... Urgh!

That's an odd thing to say, so you really wish ill of game developers because you don't like a game? This seems like an incredibly asinine comment. Do you actually have any comment about what it is you think they did so wrong and why it was? Also, what don't you like about what they have 'done' to Lara?

I personally think this is one of the best Tomb Raider games and I played through the original on release.

Oh, no, I wish them to continue doing the same stuff more and more! They're nice guys, they are only killing off another great franchise with another forced useless shitty remake which makes no sense on each and every level, but gets general praise because the audience nowadays is so sweetly picky!

...

Yes, I DO wand those bastards to get fired. Don't agree? Buy Rise of Tomb Raider.

PS I don't know how a person who played original TR on release can consider TR2013 a game. Not good or bad. Just a game. It is horrible.

 

[The Purple Grape]

One would argue Lara isn't meant to be realistic and relatable, like Indiana Jones she is an exaggerated character in a world that is exaggerated, the only reason that she is female and that makes this 'serious' business and no one can smile. Its like a child wearing daddy's suit to try and be an adult and failing every step of the way. Chloe Frazer (mmm Claudia Black) is better at be being Lady Croft fuck it River Song plays the thief/'archaeologist' with the questionable morals better.

Bring back the T Rex and the batshit insanity of the old games.

Why does she still have a bow, other the obvious Hunger Games ripoff, Lara only needs her two guns, I mean pistols to kill.

 

[beddo]

To worse - yes. From strong and smart female lead to whiny yet invulnerable imbecile? Much evolution. So enjoyment. Many character.

I had bigger problems with Lara's alleged "development" as it was depicted in the game: in one moment, she has to kill some dude in self-defence, and she's shaken and disturbed afterwards. The next moment, she's remorselessly killing all kind of opponents by brutally hacking them to death with her pick-axe. Yeah, that makes total sense.

Even "better" was the scene about half-way in the story, when that Harry Potter look-a-like bit the dust: there Lara stands, swearing solemnly that "no-one else will die on this island" (pretty much a verbatim quote) - and 10 seconds later you have to mow down the next dozen of opponents. Thumbs up for good writing.

(I won't even go into detail why the gameplay made the game utter shit.)

It's not that unbelievable, mostly because it's not a common scenario. In this case she was acting in self-defence from a group of extremists and did what she had to to survive.

In what way is the gameplay bad? It seemed incredibly competent to me; the climbing and traversal easily matches Uncharted and Assassins Creed with the combat being stronger than the former.

 

[beddo]

Screw you Square. You ain't getting a single penny from me. Hope you crash and burn.

You want the Square to 'crash and burn'? Why would you want a game developer to go under because you don't like one game or series that they make? You know how important Square is in the history of gaming right?

 

[RandV80]

This is just a scummy business practice on Microsoft's end. Rather than sink money into their own console exclusive title, they pay money to an already in development game to simply exclude the competition? I don't own either console and likely won't play this, but that's just garbage.

 

[beddo]

I won't get tired of saying: TR2103 killed off the franchise for me, and I do hope this franchise will sink taking with itself as much people involved in its creation as possible. This is a pure offense to the idea and concept of original games, and what they've done to Lara herself is just.... Urgh!

That's an odd thing to say, so you really wish ill of game developers because you don't like a game? This seems like an incredibly asinine comment. Do you actually have any comment about what it is you think they did so wrong and why it was? Also, what don't you like about what they have 'done' to Lara?

I personally think this is one of the best Tomb Raider games and I played through the original on release.

Oh, no, I wish them to continue doing the same stuff more and more! They're nice guys, they are only killing off another great franchise with another forced useless shitty remake which makes no sense on each and every level, but gets general praise because the audience nowadays is so sweetly picky!

...

Yes, I DO wand those bastards to get fired. Don't agree? Buy Rise of Tomb Raider.

PS I don't know how a person who played original TR on release can consider TR2013 a game. Not good or bad. Just a game. It is horrible.

Who says they will keep doing the same stuff? They might move onto something else, developers don't have to keep doing the same thing. I don't think they're 'killing off' a Franchise, the first series got to a seventh installment but wasn't evolving very much. The reboot, Tomb Raider Anniversary was an interesting remake but the following two games weren't so strong.

TR2013 was a great game and an awesome reboot - it did something new an interesting with the series. Your only complaint seems to be that in creating a more in-depth Lara that the game somehow doesn't obey real world behaviour around injuries but why should Tomb Raider to be subject to this odd requirement more than other titles?

I already own Rise of the Tomb Raider because I like good games. It has a Metacritic score of 86 so it seems like it's been well received by critics too.

An odd post script, by what definition do you not consider something a game? What are the critical differences between the two? Both are action adventure games with platforming and combat. If anything the new releases are more 'game-like' in that they have a full suite of upgrades that impact on gameplay.

 

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

Have to hand it to them. Early 2016 usually means March or April. I wonder if this will make them reconsi.... yeah, I couldn't keep a straight face for that.

 

[chocolate pickles]

Screw you Square. You ain't getting a single penny from me. Hope you crash and burn.

You want the Square to 'crash and burn'? Why would you want a game developer to go under because you don't like one game or series that they make? You know how important Square is in the history of gaming right?

I don't like how they've out to this exclusivity shit. They want me to buy their product? Don't piss on me by intentionally withholding it.

Also, I care little for what they did before; that was the old square, before it became square Enix. I couldn't give a hoot what they out out now.

 

[beddo]

Screw you Square. You ain't getting a single penny from me. Hope you crash and burn.

You want the Square to 'crash and burn'? Why would you want a game developer to go under because you don't like one game or series that they make? You know how important Square is in the history of gaming right?

I don't like how they've out to this exclusivity shit. They want me to buy their product? Don't piss on me by intentionally withholding it.

Also, I care little for what they did before; that was the old square, before it became square Enix. I couldn't give a hoot what they out out now.

How are they withholding anything from you? You are free to buy an Xbox One and play it, alternatively you can wait and get it on another platform. Business deals happen and help games get made at all, especially in a world with increasing AAA costs.

 

[Bat Vader]

Screw you Square. You ain't getting a single penny from me. Hope you crash and burn.

You want the Square to 'crash and burn'? Why would you want a game developer to go under because you don't like one game or series that they make? You know how important Square is in the history of gaming right?

I don't like how they've out to this exclusivity shit. They want me to buy their product? Don't piss on me by intentionally withholding it.

Also, I care little for what they did before; that was the old square, before it became square Enix. I couldn't give a hoot what they out out now.

How are they withholding anything from you? You are free to buy an Xbox One and play it, alternatively you can wait and get it on another platform. Business deals happen and help games get made at all, especially in a world with increasing AAA costs.

Yeah but they seem like really shitty deals for gamers though. Personally I believe if the first game is released multiplatform the rest need to launch multiplatform too.

AAA games can be made on much smaller budgets. Look at The Witcher III. That was made with 81 million dollars.

 

[Sizzle Montyjing]

Ah yes, because nothing makes me want to buy a game more than being treated like some secondary, less important customer! Especially after it bombed horribly.
Sign me up!

 

[votemarvel]

Financially I don't see how the exclusive deal made sense. Are PC and PS4 gamers going to want the game, released presumably at full price, when they have in all likelihood had the story spoilt for them already.

I enjoyed the reboot but I always found the story disconnected from the gameplay. "Oh I'm not sure I can do this Roth", Lara says after effortlessly slaughtering 20 armed lunatics.

This is what I think the reboot would have worked better as a sequel. Lara Croft is on another adventure, teamed with friends of her father and an old school friend of her own. The ship gets destroyed and Lara separated from the crew. She uses the talents built up over years of adventures to find her friends and stop the cult leader from bringing back the Storm Queen.

 

[Something Amyss]

Amazing! I bet nobody called this!

Oh wait. Fucking everybody called this.

You mean everybody called a deal which was explicitly spelled out back shortly after it was first announced? That's a thing now?

 

[Gordon_4_v1legacy]

Financially I don't see how the exclusive deal made sense. Are PC and PS4 gamers going to want the game, released presumably at full price, when they have in all likelihood had the story spoilt for them already.

I enjoyed the reboot but I always found the story disconnected from the gameplay. "Oh I'm not sure I can do this Roth", Lara says after effortlessly slaughtering 20 armed lunatics.

This is what I think the reboot would have worked better as a sequel. Lara Croft is on another adventure, teamed with friends of her father and an old school friend of her own. The ship gets destroyed and Lara separated from the crew. She uses the talents built up over years of adventures to find her friends and stop the cult leader from bringing back the Storm Queen.

Yeah that would probably have been a good idea, alternatively the only weapon you should have had was the bow, and that mainly for shooting ropes to accessible areas, and the climbing axe and only getting the two pistols at the very end to do in the Storm Queen.

Also they should have nutted up, and got Lara to kiss Sam at the end; when people kept telling me that there was a subtextual lesbian love story in the game I was skeptical and then I played it and felt ripped off that it never came to anything.