Robert Downey Jr. To Be In Cap 3, MCU To Get CRAZY

[Ruisu]

I hope they can adapt it properly. Civil War is one of the "darkest" events in Marvel Comics, and it's even more complex than what we saw in Winter Soldier.
Keep "friendship power' out of this if you can Marvel, please.

 

[Scarim Coral]

Yup that tumblr post showing the titles of upcoming Marvel movie titles is true which in that case, Thor 3 will be the end of days for Asguad.

I supppose it probably will make sense once Avenger 2 is up. Chance are, Cap will become distrustful toward Tony cos of the Ultron ordeal eventhought his intention were good and Ultron becoming sentient was an accident.

 

[Basement Cat]

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OT: [user]Supahewok[/user] makes a lot of sense, here.

I haven't watched all of AoS myself but there's a logical pattern to his first post.

 

[Ukomba]

Put me down for team Iron Man! Woot! I know it's a Cap movie so he'll have to loose, but still .

I also like the idea of the Superhero Registration Act if they play it as the moral grey area it is. A Rights vs Gun Registration type scenario. Of course, if they make one side the obvious good side it'll loose a lot.

 

[faefrost]

(Although, I feel like I need a disclaimer to get something off my chest I've been holding for at least a year: LOKI'S STAFF IS NOT A FRIGGIN STONE. Could go into all sorts of reasons why that is, but I'll stick with the simplest: color coding. There are 6 colors for 6 stones. Aside from being fact, it was confirmed in Guardians, when the Collector gave us all his little history lesson: 6 stones with 6 colors are clearly shown. The stone in Loki's staff is blue. It's powered by the Tesseract. Making that blue stone another Infinity stone would just be confusing for the audience to keep track of. Sorry if I seem cross, I've just seen that speculation as taken for fact here and other places too many times and its gotten under my skin. Feels nice to let it out. Don't mean to offend, after all, I'm rampantly speculating here as well )

I thought it was a stone at first, but then I went back and watched the Avengers and they mention that his staff is powered by the tesseract. Wouldn't make sense for it to be a stone.

Not quite true. If you go rewatch it isn't powered by the tesseract. It is powered by the same energy as the tesseract. Which would shoehorn into Guardians origin of the stones nicely. 2 stones are dangerous to keep together, remember? Possibly because among other things they can counteract and influence each other.

As for Civil War. I like the Stark vs Cap dynamic, but there isn't enough there there in the Marvel Cinematic Universe yet for there to be a civil war. Outside of the Hulk and a handful of super powered criminals and terrorists every single super powered operative is already tied to or employed by the Government. Even if simply loosely. Heck Stark is the only one that does not bear an actual military or intelligence rank. There is no costumed vigilante issue for the government to need to get control of. This is a world without Spider-man, remember. Street Criminals do not get beat up by dudes in spandex as of yet. There is a bit of that looming in the Netflix "Defenders" multiple series. But I can't see that feeding back into the core movies. Those like Agents of Shield will react to the movies. The movies will not react to TV. Of the announced and forthcoming films the only one that plays much in the "non governmental" space on earth is Dr. Strange. Which even in the Comic Universe was a hard one for the government to step in and in any way work with. To have a Civil War you need a civilian population of Superheroes running amuck. Otherwise you just get a Captain America Enemy of the State storyline involving a few players.

With that said I will happily go watch whatever goodness the Russo Brothers want to cook up. That would be a brilliant choice for A3 and 4!

 

[faefrost]

Put me down for team Iron Man! Woot! I know it's a Cap movie so he'll have to loose, but still .

I also like the idea of the Superhero Registration Act if they play it as the moral grey area it is. A Rights vs Gun Registration type scenario. Of course, if they make one side the obvious good side it'll loose a lot.

Ummm? Not to spoil anything, but if you have not read it, you might want to look into the actual comic Civil War storyline. It's going to be another "Winter Soldier" moment where the comic nerds know what's comming and get yelled at for spoiling things that have been basic fact and major character elements for 10+ years.

 

[Erttheking]

I'm not sure if I'm on board with this. I haven't liked what I read about Civil War in the comics. They better knock the writing out of the park with this one.

(Besides, weren't they supposed to be fighting Thanos?)

 

[MatParker116]

I'm not sure if I'm on board with this. I haven't liked what I read about Civil War in the comics. They better knock the writing out of the park with this one.

(Besides, weren't they supposed to be fighting Thanos?)

I imagine there just using the title similar to what there doing with AoU.

 

[Erttheking]

I'm not sure if I'm on board with this. I haven't liked what I read about Civil War in the comics. They better knock the writing out of the park with this one.

(Besides, weren't they supposed to be fighting Thanos?)

I imagine there just using the title similar to what there doing with AoU.

I seriously hope that's the case. The appeal of Avengers (For me anyway) is to see all these heroes standing together. Not against each other.

 

[MasterOfHisOwnDomain]

It's an aside but. . . Thanos in Avengers 4? How many more films does he have to endure in which he fails to get hold of the Infinity Stones? Are they called that because it's going to take an infinite number of films for him to actually get them ...

 

[psijac]

The Civil War was a logical reaction to 9/11 so its already been done. The repercussions of 9/11 are already a thing in the entire Ironman Series and Winter Soldier. it feels stale as hell

 

[TKretts3]

Seven months away from the release of Avengers 2, and we're already talking about Avengers 3 and 4!? Oh, and this just in, Mitt Romney has confirmed that he will run for president in 2024!

 

[DrOswald]

Sorry but given the events of IM3 the idea that the MCU Tony Stark would be remotely pro registration is laughable.

I would think the opposite. All the problems in Iron Man 3 were caused by unknown supers. If they had been registered (and their source of powers known) it could never have happened. I would argue that the events of Iron Man 3 would push Tony toward super registration.

 

[Genocidicles]

HOW are they going to do Civil War? It will have to be something other than "superhero registration", mainly because almost nobody in the current MCU even HAS a secret identity.

The world knows Tony Stark is Iron Man.
The world knows Steve Rogers is Captain America.
Thor is Thor and has no secret identity.
Bruce Banner is on the run because the government knows who he is.
Black Widow leaked all her and SHILED's personnel files to the public, so she (and Hawkeye and others) have no safe aliases.
The ONLY hero in the current MCU with a secret identity is Daredevil, and he's on a Netflix series that probably won't tie into the movies.

Civil War would have to be over something different.

Aren't they doing a new civil war in the comics? It could be based on that, or a combination of the two.

 

[RedDeadFred]

Sorry but given the events of IM3 the idea that the MCU Tony Stark would be remotely pro registration is laughable.

Ya, that's my big problem too. Maybe they'll flip the roles? Something major would have to happen for this Tony to suddenly be siding with the government on this. At least Cap works for a government agency right now... er, sort of. It would make more sense for them to flip the roles.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

I had a similar thought about the MCU Stark, but I think he may have a change of heart in Avengers 2 (maybe due to the 'miraculous' twins showing up). It definitely won't be Cap'n on the registration side after Winter Soldier.

Why do you think those will be the sides this time?

Cap just spent an entire movie learning exactly how badly letting powerful people keep their secrets can get in the form of an entire global agency of super-powered spies essentially going rogue due to lack of civilian oversight, and Stark has spent three movies telling the government that his tech is his and they can have his secrets over his dead body and most of theirs.

Sticking Cap on the "no secrets" side of things and Iron Man on the "masks 4eva" side wouldn't be a stretch at all for movie continuity, even assuming they decide to put this conflict in the same terms as the last big dumb crossover event.

Cap spent the whole movie fighting against government/military's ability to monitor and dispose of people. The only "supers" he encountered were Barnes and probably Batroc. Most of it was corrupt agents and politicians.

I agree that Stark seemed unlikely to fulfill his CW role up through Avengers, but his robo army in IM3, his "protect the people he put in harm's way" mantra, and the rumors for Avengers 2/Cap3 make him being pro-registration pretty likely.

Maybe they will twist it and make Cap pro-registration, maybe this rumor is bogus and they won't even do the CW. Only time will tell, but it seems probable and I think the sides will be the same as the comic(at least for Stark and Rogers).

 

[DeimosMasque]

My only concern about doing a Civil War type story in the MCU is that well... there are no secret identities in the current MCU. Maybe the Hulk? But especially after the events of Winter Soldier there doesn't seem to be a reason to "protect our secret identities" as there was in the 616