Robert Rodriguez's Latest Film Won't Be Released for '100 Years'

[RJ 17]

I'm very much doubtful if there even actually is a movie, or if this is all just a publicity stunt with nothing real backing it up.

That's my line of thinking as well. Much easier to simply start spreading rumors of an "exclusive short film that won't be seen for a hundred years" than to actually make one. For starters it's a hell of a lot cheaper to just say you made one.

No, the real promotion is the "teaser trailers" to lend credence to the bluff of an actual movie.

 

[Mason Callaway]

Pro Tip: No film, no matter how good, can survive a 100 year build up. It's like Plessis thought to himself, "Man, I hope this Cognac is worth a 100 year wait. I had better package it with something that's going to be a guaranteed disappointment so it will look good by comparison."

 

[LordMonty]

I hope it isn't total shit as there may be excpectation after 100 years... think of that the film bombs in 100 years from now. Hell of a way to be remebered but again could be a masterpeice... wish i could live that long to find out tbh.

 

[DoctorM]

Is there even a film stock that will survive 100 years? I'm not sure there is.
And that's assuming the projector will still work or be compatible with electrical outlets.
Ridiculous.

 

[Willard McFlurry]

Well, I think it's kind of cool. All the people saying it won't have any significance in 100 years are just being cynical. If nothing else, it will be interesting for future people as a snapshot of what people of the past thought the future would be like.

Besides, look at the excitement over Back to the Future 2 this year. Thirty years isn't as long a time, true, but people do remember stuff.

 

[FPLOON]

You had me right up to the metal tickets... I mean, why not sent them to the 1,000 influential people living in 2114?

Other than that, I hope one of those that do get to see this film walks out and says "That movie sucked because it wasn't even accurate about the future" as a joke in that particular era... Also, this thread has me rolling in the laughter right now...

 

[Strazdas]

Now i am going to live 100 years just to spite the guy and watch the movie whatever form of visuals we will be having in 100 years!

Is there even a film stock that will survive 100 years? I'm not sure there is.
And that's assuming the projector will still work or be compatible with electrical outlets.
Ridiculous.

some archival optical drives are rated for 100 years. Also assuming you can keep introducing a charge backup every 10 yuears or so and SSD drive will store it just fine. Magnetic tape is also known to have survived quite a lot. you can encode video in an audio tape btw, but reading it in 100 years may be hard.

Though the best way to keep the data is actually printing on archival paper in barcode that uses simple standard, with instructions on how to decode it in 100 years in case shit happens and people forget. heck if your rich enough to do it, do the printing on plastic, that is going to survive better than paper.

then if money is no problem. just print Glass/Bronze CD masters. those will survive 100 years just fine. just lets hope in 100 years we will still know how to read CDs.

on the plus side, reading threads like these [http://ask.slashdot.org/story/08/08/27/2119252/digital-storage-to-survive-a-25-year-dirt-nap] in another 20 year or so and seeing how many interfaces are still around will be a fun thing to do. funny in 2008 they thought IDE is going away, when its making a comeback now

 

[mruuh]

I don't know about you guys, but I plan to still be around 100 years from now. But I won't go to a screening of this movie, I'll just get it via Quantum-Entangled Torrent, or whatever futuristic file sharing tech will be hated by MPAA (we all know they will still be here, and they will still not have embraced digital content distribution).

 

[Bindal]

It'll be hacked within the week, distributed on YouTube, each copy will get hammered by DMCA complaints - and we'll all forget this movie even exists before the end of the year.

Assuming the thing is on something with internet connection. I mean, good luck getting access to a DVD remotely, for example (not a DVD Drive or a DVD in a Drive - JUST the DVD)

Still, silly idea. But on the other hand... why not? If I manage to be still around in 100 years AND remember it (instead of turning into a senile old man that forgets that he took a crap earilier this morning), I might try to see it if I can.

 

[Zydrate]

I'm 27 years old. I can look back 20 years and notice the world around me hasn't changed THAT much. An extra store. A few more wal-marts. Smaller phones and skinnier televisions. With this knowledge, I find it very hard that multiplying this by five will turn our planet into the SciFi stuff we're seeing in media. After all, a hundred years ago people predicted we'd have flying cars and jetpacks. We don't, though we do have planes.
Maybe this is just me being a cynic. I'm just using the data I have.

 

[Vigormortis]

Is there even a film stock that will survive 100 years? I'm not sure there is.
And that's assuming the projector will still work or be compatible with electrical outlets.
Ridiculous.

That was one of my first thoughts as well.

If it's stored on standard film stock, it will surely degrade long before 2115 comes along. So, that being the case, is there a plan for someone to open the time capsule every decade or so to reprint the film? Perhaps the is film stored on some digital format. If so, what's keeping that from degrading? More over, who's to say there'll be any means of retrieving the data from that type of storage medium in 2115? Are they expecting people in 2115 to rewrite century-old video codecs?

Honestly, the whole affair just screams of extreme pretentiousness and arrogance compounded by shortsightedness.

Pretty much what I expect out of Rodriguez and Malkovich...

 

[DoctorM]

Now i am going to live 100 years just to spite the guy and watch the movie whatever form of visuals we will be having in 100 years!

Is there even a film stock that will survive 100 years? I'm not sure there is.
And that's assuming the projector will still work or be compatible with electrical outlets.
Ridiculous.

some archival optical drives are rated for 100 years. Also assuming you can keep introducing a charge backup every 10 yuears or so and SSD drive will store it just fine. Magnetic tape is also known to have survived quite a lot. you can encode video in an audio tape btw, but reading it in 100 years may be hard.

Though the best way to keep the data is actually printing on archival paper in barcode that uses simple standard, with instructions on how to decode it in 100 years in case shit happens and people forget. heck if your rich enough to do it, do the printing on plastic, that is going to survive better than paper.

then if money is no problem. just print Glass/Bronze CD masters. those will survive 100 years just fine. just lets hope in 100 years we will still know how to read CDs.

on the plus side, reading threads like these [http://ask.slashdot.org/story/08/08/27/2119252/digital-storage-to-survive-a-25-year-dirt-nap] in another 20 year or so and seeing how many interfaces are still around will be a fun thing to do. funny in 2008 they thought IDE is going away, when its making a comeback now

While some digital media are rated at 100 years, digital transfers of films are kept with multiple duplicates and are refreshed/recopied on a regular basis. DVDs were rated at 100 years when they first came out. That's long since been proven to be bogus.

Even the best film stocks' long term survival are largely guess based. They won't know how long they'll keep until 100 years goes by.

There really aren't many (any?) formats that are set it and forget it for 100 years and you'll be guaranteed success.

Speaking of bogus... they don't put bottled liquor away for 100 years. The are stored in casks (or whatever) to age and THEN bottled. It's not like wine. I know it's meant to be symbolic, but in 100 years they'll wonder how stupid the director was.

Eh, I'll wait until this leaks on to the Pirate Bay and watch it. This had to have passed through a lot of hands on the way to final cut and storage.

 

[Strazdas]

While some digital media are rated at 100 years, digital transfers of films are kept with multiple duplicates and are refreshed/recopied on a regular basis. DVDs were rated at 100 years when they first came out. That's long since been proven to be bogus.

Even the best film stocks' long term survival are largely guess based. They won't know how long they'll keep until 100 years goes by.

There really aren't many (any?) formats that are set it and forget it for 100 years and you'll be guaranteed success.

Speaking of bogus... they don't put bottled liquor away for 100 years. The are stored in casks (or whatever) to age and THEN bottled. It's not like wine. I know it's meant to be symbolic, but in 100 years they'll wonder how stupid the director was.

Eh, I'll wait until this leaks on to the Pirate Bay and watch it. This had to have passed through a lot of hands on the way to final cut and storage.

Archival optical media are not your run of the mill DVDs though. those were specifically designed for long term storage. Also i find the whole DVD rot thing fascinating, because i keep my (literally over a thousand) DVD collection in a cupboard, some of which (cds mostly) are over 20 years old and so far i only ever found 1 of them unreadable, and that was probably more due to wear and tear than rot (it was read thousands of times by then, was one of those id keep putting in constantly). While i moved to other methods of storage for the most part nowadays, these dvds still stick around just fine.

There is no reason to think there arent going to be multiple copies of this film as a redudancy, perhaps even in multiple formats for better future compatibility.

I never said there are set it and forget it formats for 100 years, i speculated on longevity of different formats in there and the glass/bronze masters seems to be the best option if money is no problem because those are indeed the kind that at least in theory you could set it and forget it for 100 years.

When it comes to liquir, you have to keep Wine in casks. cognac does not care if its bottles or casks. though it should ideally be kept in the dark. if you have supermarkets like around here it may be interesting to go liquir hunting and reach for the bottles that are in the very back end of the shelf. the people working there tend to stack liquir at the front when new arrives since they dont care about expiry date (unlike beer, when i worked in a supermarket they really got angry if any beer expired) so if you dig deeper you can find things like 10-15 year old bottles that still costs the exact same as a 1 year old ones.


Piratebay leaks usually involve distributor/retailer leaking. altrough a lot more leaks nowaday come from the Movie Theater staff as they started shipping generic Blu-rays to them nowadays. This movie hasnt been handled by either, so the chances of leaking are slim.

 

[FalloutJack]

So, a time capsule project, then? Alright, thanks for letting us know.

 

[DoctorM]

For a brandy to be called Cognac, it must be made from specified grape varieties grown in the AOC (a majority of Ugni Blanc, with small portions of Colombard and Folle Blanche allowed), double-distilled in copper pot stills and aged at least two years in Limousin or Tronçais oak barrels.

I call bollocks on 'bottle aged'. Still don't believe me? Check out Louis XIII's website: http://www.louisxiii-cognac.com/#the-art-of-craftsmanship--the-ageing-process

 

[Lieju]

This is just a publicity stunt for the liquor company though?

Which I guess worked, people heard about it and some rich people got tickets and might now buy this stuff.

 

[CrystalShadow]

I have several concerns about this...

Firstly, it's just weird.

Secondly, if this goes as planned, who will actually care? Especially since it's a form of advertising basically.

Finally, a practical concern, how do they expect to keep the film viable for 100 years?

A lot of film has degraded substantially in much shorter time periods. It seems a little optimistic to think you can both ensure nobody sees it ahead of time, and that it is still in a viable condition for anyone to watch it 100 years from now...

Overall this is just bizarre.

But basically for the sake of curiosity, I would have to live to about the age of 135 to stand any chance of seeing it?
As if I'd remember about it even if I did live that long. XD

 

[Evonisia]

Robert Rodriguez best hope he's left a legacy that will last one hundred years then.

Oh well, somebody will leak if just before it gets locked away.

 

[Clankenbeard]

I see a lot of discussion here about preserving the film and being able to play it. I'm not film media expert, but I deal with elastomer (rubber) seals fairly often. You have to be able to drop this film into a nitrogen (completely inert gas) purged, sealed container to preserve it.

They just opened a 100-year old time capsule in Oklahoma City last year. It had Edison-style recordings in it AND the Edison phonograph to play them. http://sfglobe.com/2014/11/25/100-year-old-time-capsule-opened-in-oklahoma-city/ They were stored in a cardboard box.

The technology side is doable, people. For what will probably be 100's of $200,000 bottle of Cognac, it is all doable.