Robin Williams Dead From Suspected Suicide - Update

[Kajin]

I've been depressed all day today because of this

R.I.P. Robin Williams.

 

[crazygameguy4ever]

i didn't want to believe this when i first heard it.. it's hard to believe he's dead.. and that it was by suicide of all things.. he was such a good actor and i've seen so many of his films over he course of my life.. one of the earliest animated films I remember seeing was Aladdin with Robin Williams as the voice of the Genie in fact. he will be missed.. farewell and rest in peace Mr. Williams...

 

[LetalisK]

I heard about this and it devastated me. Usually when a celebrity dies, I just think "Oh, that's sad." But with Robin Williams...god damn it. Just god damn it.

My girlfriend told me about this yesterday. Massive derail on the Jack-brain. He's one of my favorites. I didn't ask for this... I'll never understand depression. You're a success and the idol of millions, a comic legend. Why would you die when there's a life of comfort and everything...? (To understand where I'm coming from, my father had a clinically-depressed friend who was just plain always depressed. He died recently, but it was natural causes. So, it's hard for me to understand how a man who's up there in lights would go down like that.)

Most people consider depression to be a characteristic, personality trait, or choice. That's where the misunderstanding is. It's a mental illness. Telling a person with depression to snap out of it is like trying to tell a schizophrenic to just ignore the voices. They physically can't, that's why they have a problem. Add in his history with addiction and you have a deadly cocktail. The fact that he dealt with his addiction(and continued to deal with it) earlier in his life is probably why he lasted as long as he did.

There's also the issue with the trivializing of depression(and anxiety disorders) because of the trend of family practitioners thinking they are adequately equipped to diagnose and treat it, usually by just throwing pills at the problem or "problem".

 

[FalloutJack]

Most people consider depression to be a characteristic, personality trait, or choice. That's where the misunderstanding is. It's a mental illness. Telling a person with depression to snap out of it is like trying to tell a schizophrenic to just ignore the voices. They physically can't, that's why they have a problem. Add in his history with addiction and you have a deadly cocktail. The fact that he dealt with his addiction(and continued to deal with it) earlier in his life is probably why he lasted as long as he did.

There's also the issue with the trivializing of depression(and anxiety disorders) because of the trend of family practitioners thinking they are adequately equipped to diagnose and treat it, usually by just throwing pills at the problem or "problem".

Hold on, now I do understand the difference here. There are people who are down in the dumps and depressed (symptom of bad stuff happening) and there are those who are clinically depressed. I'm aware you can't just get the latter to feel better, as a rule. I'm not mistaking this. Still, one thing I AM saying is that the depression doesn't always win. I also have to agree with you that the idea of just pilling up is no answer to the problem. The thing is...I knew Robin Williams was manic. I wasn't aware that he was also depressive.

 

[LetalisK]

Most people consider depression to be a characteristic, personality trait, or choice. That's where the misunderstanding is. It's a mental illness. Telling a person with depression to snap out of it is like trying to tell a schizophrenic to just ignore the voices. They physically can't, that's why they have a problem. Add in his history with addiction and you have a deadly cocktail. The fact that he dealt with his addiction(and continued to deal with it) earlier in his life is probably why he lasted as long as he did.

There's also the issue with the trivializing of depression(and anxiety disorders) because of the trend of family practitioners thinking they are adequately equipped to diagnose and treat it, usually by just throwing pills at the problem or "problem".

Hold on, now I do understand the difference here. There are people who are down in the dumps and depressed (symptom of bad stuff happening) and there are those who are clinically depressed. I'm aware you can't just get the latter to feel better, as a rule. I'm not mistaking this. Still, one thing I AM saying is that the depression doesn't always win. I also have to agree with you that the idea of just pilling up is no answer to the problem. The thing is...I knew Robin Williams was manic. I wasn't aware that he was also depressive.

I wasn't coming at you or anything, just sharing information I happened to know. Also, "clinical depression" doesn't exist. It's just depression. "Clinical depression" is a made up term we as a society have concocted in our(probably unintentional) trivialization of depression as we label someone who is merely sad as "depressed", but reserve "clinical depression" for when we want everyone else to know we're being literal. Again, not coming at you, you probably already know this, I just have a background in psychology and I like to rant sometimes about how psychology is used and misused in the general public.

Also, you're correct that depression doesn't always win. I didn't mean to imply that. Also, I wasn't surprised that he was depressed considering it's rare that you have mania without depression as well. Depression without mania happens all the time, but not really the other way around. Actually, I take it back, as I was a little surprised considering he's been in addiction recovery for a long time and they tend to work on those issues too, but it's not wholly unsuspected.

 

[blackrave]

Just proves that comedians are the saddest people
But to be honest, suicide, unnatural death or natural death- it really doesn't matter
It's not like someone managed to get away alive anyway :/

 

[FalloutJack]

I wasn't coming at you or anything, just sharing information I happened to know. Also, "clinical depression" doesn't exist. It's just depression. "Clinical depression" is a made up term we as a society have concocted in our(probably unintentional) trivialization of depression as we label someone who is merely sad as "depressed", but reserve "clinical depression" for when we want everyone else to know we're being literal. Again, not coming at you, you probably already know this, I just have a background in psychology and I like to rant sometimes about how psychology is used and misused in the general public.

Also, you're correct that depression doesn't always win. I didn't mean to imply that. Also, I wasn't surprised that he was depressed considering it's rare that you have mania without depression as well. Depression without mania happens all the time, but not really the other way around. Actually, I take it back, as I was a little surprised considering he's been in addiction recovery for a long time and they tend to work on those issues too, but it's not wholly unsuspected.

Yeah, I've had some classes, myself. Not to your extent, but I know. Ah well... Just a damn shame.

 

[farscythe]

well shit..
rest in peace mr williams and thanks for all the memories.

 

[Aiddon_v1legacy]

Okay, the Parkinson's thing does make a lot of sense. For someone as manic and energetic as Williams, Parkinson's would screw him up as it screws with motor skills and just walking. Williams' entire identity was based around how exuberant he was and for a disease that would take that away it'd be a huge hit to him.

 

[Scarim Coral]

Wow, the whole Parkinson diease does bring new light on his reason to end his life. Still I wish he was had reach out to others than to had suffer it to himself and a few others.

 

[Lilani]

Dear Internet: The best way to honor Robin Williams' life is to maybe *not* draw 10,000 shitty pictures of Aladdin crying over an empty lamp

Memorials aren't really for the deceased, they're for the living to express their love and esteem.

 

[Saltyk]

Okay, the Parkinson's thing does make a lot of sense. For someone as manic and energetic as Williams, Parkinson's would screw him up as it screws with motor skills and just walking. Williams' entire identity was based around how exuberant he was and for a disease that would take that away it'd be a huge hit to him.

I saw an interview with a doctor today who said that Robin was known to be very active and to exercise to deal with his depression. But Parkinson's would make exercise very difficult and even impossible as it progressed. It has been implied that being diagnosed with Parkinson's may have pushed him over the edge.

It's still a tragic occurrence. The world has gotten just a little bit less happy and funny due to his passing.

 

[Valagetti]

This is none of our business and we should stay out of it, the sympathy from strangers aren't going to make his friends and family feel better...

 

[BoompigXD The Ork]

Rest in peace dude.

On a related note I was gonna post a sorta update to this news story (Well, not an update, I'm not an Escapist Reporter) but I didn't want to bog the mood down even further so I decided against it.

 

[sumanoskae]

Parkinson's huh? This was already sad, but now I have to consider the possibility that he didn't get done in by depression, but just wanted to check out before the Parkinson's got worse; I hear the later stages are awful.

Robin Williams was the star of lots of my favorites films growing up, and I appreciated him even more as an adult.

Already the world seems a bit less bright.

"O captain! My captain!"

 

[Master_of_Oldskool]

Jeez. Parkinson's, huh? That would explain it. For someone as bright and animated as he was, I can see how increased risk of dementia and loss of motor skills would be a blow.

I'm personally in favor of voluntary euthanasia in cases of terminal or massively debilitating illness/injury, but while I sympathize with Williams's choice, I can't say I like it. Treatments for Parkinson's are imperfect but effective, and while the dementia aspect personally scares the shit out of me, it's not a sure thing. Look at Michael J. Fox- he's been battling Parkinson's for over twenty years now, and yeah, it's had a significant impact on him, but he still leads a happy and functional life.

Wish he'd thought this through, decided to battle it out. It's hard, but he's faced hard times before. I'm sure he could have beat this. Gonna miss him.

Started off with World's Greatest Dad when the news broke. Watched The Birdcage yesterday. Tonight? Toss-up between Hook and Moscow on the Hudson.

 

[V4Viewtiful]

Between this, Stephen Fry's admission that he tried to end it a few years ago, and an Aussie comedian I follow talking seriously about his struggles with depression and alcoholism, I'm going to go out of my fucking way to make sure everyone I know is okay. All the time.

You'll be very busy, it is very common for entertainers of Robin's level to suffer depression or fall victim to drug abuse, I wonder what would happen if Dave Chappelle, if he hadn't of walked away when he did would have happened to him?



Oh and for those who haven't heard, Zelda has quite Twitter and Instagram because of the wave of abuse she got since her Father's death.

People have no class