Rockstar Doesn't Know Why Your GTA Car Hole Ate Your Car

Abomination

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CriticKitten said:
Just out of curiosity, was it really needed to be so damn snarky as to post this at someone?

....uh, buddy? GTA stands for "Grand Theft Auto", which is the legal term for the theft of a car.

And it's called that primarily because the core of the game centers around the theft of cars (and sometimes, military helicopters and tanks) and other various illegal activities.

Certainly, car theft isn't the ONLY thing you do in GTA. But saying that car theft isn't central to GTA is like saying guns aren't central to Call of Duty because there are occasions in which you do things other than shoot people with guns. It's one of the game's big boasting points, the act of stealing cool cars which you can then "pimp out" and the like. It's a HUGE focal point of the game.
No, saying car theft isn't central to GTA is like saying being called to duty isn't central to Call of Duty.

Sure the name of the game is Grand Theft Auto but that's because back in the first game the primary method of making money was by jacking someone's car and selling it. After GTAIII the whole dynamic changed into a criminal underworld open world simulator.

THEFT of cars is something you do a lot in GTA games but tricking them out, customizing them and keeping them isn't central to theft. Theft far more often than not results in the product finding its way on to the black market, not into the thief's garage. Doing so is probably the most stupid thing a car thief could do. You get RID of the evidence, not keep it.
 

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Abomination said:
steampro said:
yanno said:
I'm going to assume you're trying to get banned, and I wish you luck.
I get the feeling they have recently been banned.

And are probably 12 years old.
Probably, yeah. And it's a weak attempt at revenge, at least post some gore pics, or derail a thread by mentioning gender equality, religion or politics.
 

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MinionJoe said:
I wanted to buy that for Frank, but after two heists, I only had enough to buy one property. So I bought him the Salvage Yard. To date, it still hasn't earned him one cent. Maybe I'll get a mission someday that actually earns him a payout... ;P
I'm over halfway through the game and still waiting.

This is really an annoying element.

Which is fine if you never want to drive the car. And given that there are nearly 250 different cars in the game, only being able to save 5 vehicles per character seems a bit low for "collectors".
And this is another.
 

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CriticKitten said:
Abomination said:
No, saying car theft isn't central to GTA is like saying being called to duty isn't central to Call of Duty.
Okay, since you want to play word games:

Are you implying that being "called to duty" (i.e. being a soldier) isn't integral to a game franchise in the modern military shooter genre?

Because you see, either way, you're still wrong. Points for effort, but I'm forced to take them right back because if you'd thought your retort through, you'd have realized how silly it was and not made it.

Also, I pointed out in that same post (the one you just quoted) that stealing cars wasn't the only thing you do, but it is most certainly one of the main mechanics to the game.

Also, who said ANYTHING about selling the cars you steal? I certainly didn't.

Read before you reply.
Because the topic was PIMPING stolen cars and not being able to is a failure of GTAV and turning its back on a supposedly integral part of the franchise.

So try to keep within the context of the conversation and stop jumping all over the place.

Pimping out cars is NOT and never has been central to GTA games. It's been something that you could do in them.

Initially the integral part of GTA was stealing cars to sell but it then turned into a criminal underworld simulator where stealing cars and driving cars is central mechanic but many other mechanics were also added on.

Pimping out cars is most certainly NOT an integral part of the game and its absence (or rather a presently bugged state) does not negatively impact upon the game in a significant manner.

For some reason you equate pimping cars to stealing cars. You can do one without the other quite easily. Nobody said anything about stealing cars not being central to GTA, only you did.
 

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Abomination said:
Because the topic was PIMPING stolen cars and not being able to is a failure of GTAV and turning its back on a supposedly integral part of the franchise.

So try to keep within the context of the conversation and stop jumping all over the place.
....no, no it wasn't.

You're the one who needs to keep up with the conversation if you're going to interject your two cents. That's not even remotely what the discussion was about.

Again, read before you reply.
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kasperbbs said:
I haven't touched gta 5, but i doubt that it's built around pimping stolen cars. You seem to hate this game for some reason. Noone here is claiming that it's perfect, most games have bugs, but at least this one seems more annoying than game breaking.
....uh, buddy? GTA stands for "Grand Theft Auto", which is the legal term for the theft of a car.

And it's called that primarily because the core of the game centers around the theft of cars (and sometimes, military helicopters and tanks) and other various illegal activities.

Certainly, car theft isn't the ONLY thing you do in GTA. But saying that car theft isn't central to GTA is like saying guns aren't central to Call of Duty because there are occasions in which you do things other than shoot people with guns. It's one of the game's big boasting points, the act of stealing cool cars which you can then "pimp out" and the like. It's a HUGE focal point of the game.

But no, obviously because I'm pointing out a bug in GTA V, I "hate this game". Never mind that I was an avid player of previous GTA games back in the day, but let's not let the facts distract us from your strawman. :p


EDIT: Wasn't just 3 I'd played, I remembered that I also have played some of the other more recent ones.
The quote you responded to didn't even talk about stealing cars not being an integral part of the game, they were talking about pimping cars not being an integral part of the game.

If you weren't addressing the point he made there then why quote the part of his conversation that didn't say anything about stealing cars not being an integral part of the game?
 

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CriticKitten said:
Abomination said:
Because the topic was PIMPING stolen cars and not being able to is a failure of GTAV and turning its back on a supposedly integral part of the franchise.

So try to keep within the context of the conversation and stop jumping all over the place.
....no, no it wasn't. The discussion was centered around how "vanishing cars" is a significant bug, and when someone attempted to claim that it wasn't because the game doesn't have any sort of focus around stealing/pimping out cars, I proceeded to point to the game's title and instruct the person to educate themselves on the subject before interjecting.

Sort of like what I'm doing now, with you.

You're the one who needs to keep up with the conversation if you're going to interject your two cents. That's not even remotely what the discussion was about. I'm not going to bother with you if all you're going to do is set up these silly strawmen and you can't be bothered to read the discussion before you jump into it.

Again, read before you reply.
And your wrong, stealing cars is an integral part of the experience. Not pimping them out like saints row.
 

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Pretty much after I completed the story, trevor and micheals pimped cars turned back to the vanilla versions. Really annoying.
 

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Glad I haven't ran into that yet...

***SPOILER***

but i did have a moment after Michael has Franklin crash through the dealership that I switched to Franklin then back to Michael and standing next to him was the car that crashed through the window with a duplicate of the same car right on top of it.
 

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CriticKitten said:
Right, obviously you're not going to read back any further than is convenient for you, so you're a waste of my time.
No, you quite literally said
CriticKitten said:
In a game built around stealing and upgrading cars, a garage that literally makes cars vanish isn't a "big bug"? o_O
GTA has never been built around UPGRADING cars. That's what people have been mentioning all the time. In fact, nobody has said that the game isn't about stealing cars at all. They've just been saying that it isn't about UPGRADING or PIMPING cars.

The loss of a stolen car you're upgrading isn't a massive loss considering how the game is focused on the three protagonists' intertwining stories. Certainly it's annoying but it certainly is not an integral part of the game.

So if you were to tell us that pimping stolen cars isn't an integral part of the game everyone would agree with your assertion that STEALING cars IS an integral part of the game. But since you said that stealing AND upgrading cars is an integral part of the game people are disagreeing with you.
 

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MinionJoe said:
Karloff said:
If you leave it in Safehouse A's garage, it will stay in Safehouse A's garage; it doesn't also appear in Safehouses B and C as well. That's a design feature, not a bug.
Which means if you leave an expensive, tricked-out car in Franklin's aunt's garage, you will lose that car when he moves out. Because once Franklin leaves his aunt's, he can no longer access that garage.

Good job, Rockstar.
Actually, all the cars I owned with him did transfer to the house on Vinewood... Of course those were only autos that "automatically belonged to him", as in, the white car and the "harley"...

I don't care, I eventually loose my car somewhere and just steal a new one, this game is great but it has not awakened in me the sense of "I wanna do everything nice" that i got from GTA IV... As a matter of fact, so far I only TRULY enjoyed torturing that dude with Trevor as well as his very first quests, the other missions, as cool as they are, give me no true GTA feelings...
 

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I had this happend to me: Lost a vehicle, put a diffirent one innit, new one disappeared after a save/load only to have the old one back.Did this at Trev's home in the desert.

Thus I think the vehicles are stored but they don't like to spawn under certain conditions and ironically it never happens when you store a car in Micheal's garage.
 

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Heh, I've always thought the idea of owning a car in a GTA game kind of goes against the spirit of it anyways. "Your" car is just whoever's car you're stealing at the moment :)
You don't get mad about smashing up your car if it's not really your car. Though I did fix up a couple for dicking around in. Only one of them disappeared so I'm not that bummed out.

Also, does anyone know about any cheats for GTA V yet? I haven't heard about any, though I've still got a while before I begin my second playthrough.
 

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The irony.
Seems like the game pulls a GTA on you pulling a GTA on a personally owned vehicle hehe.
 

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....I'm getting tired of wasting my time with you people.

I swear, you're at least the third person who has quoted one of my posts in this thread who didn't actually read a word of what you quoted because reading takes effort, so you just decided you'd make stuff up about what it is I said and what you think I meant. Except that, since post 1, I've been saying that stealing cars is an integral part of the game experience. And yet people keep insisting that I didn't say that, or that I said something else, when all I have to do is point to my posts, all of which clearly contain the words "steal" and "car" in very close proximity.

I might understand if my posts were, like, significantly large....but they're not. They're a few paragraphs. If you can't be arsed to read a few paragraphs, then don't waste my time commenting on them. >_>
First off, insulting someone when your not understanding what their saying is the quickest way to get the wrong type of attention (moderators), giving you fair warning mate.
I'm starting to think theres a language barrier here, Abomination is from NZ and I am from Australia, if your from USA then that would explain the issue. If language isn't the issue then your not reading what we're saying and jumping to the wrong conclusion.
To try and explain this simply:
CriticKitten said:
In a game built around stealing and upgrading cars, a garage that literally makes cars vanish isn't a "big bug"? o_O
Ok so we are all in agreement that stealing cars is a core function of GTA, hell it's in the bloody name, so give that a tick as yes we all agree *insert tick image*.
What Abomination and I are disagreeing with you over is the 2nd part of that sentence, that part bolded, that upgrading cars is ALSO a core feature. We are saying that it is not a core feature and that stealing cars is the only core feature out of the 2 you've mentioned. Heck customising cars hasn't even been a feature in GTA until V, atleast not real customisation, so it cannot be considered a core one only a new one. If they fix it and it becomes popular it will become a core feature, however for the moment that is not the case.

I don't know how much easier I could make this, if you spin my words around and misrepresent what I'm saying again then I'll assume your trolling and simply ignore you. If you want to debate about weather customising cars is a core feature then please go ahead, I'm happy to listen and discuss.