Rockstar Uses Actual Gang Members for GTA V Voice Acting
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sagacious said:
Depending on what gang you're in the only way out is death. These aren't just people who committed a crime, they're people who decided at a young age to join a group of people who make crime a way of life. What you're sympathizing with is regular former cons but gang members are a totally different thing. It sucks but that's just the way it is.
Being in a gang isn't, in itself, illegal, to my understanding. It is the activities the gang members themselves perpetrate that are illegal. So, I could give a gang member a job, even if I know that he's in a gang. As long as I did not have knowledge of or cover up any illegal activity he performed while in my employ, it would be fine.maidenm said:
I'd just love to know who this "specialist" is that found all these gang members. That would be one hell of an eye-brow raising CV.
What makes you think that professional voice actors do anything positive with their money?Desert Punk said:
Ok? I guess that will matter when you're the progenitor of your own master race of upstanding citizens.Desert Punk said:
And apparently the word 'obvious' doesn't apply here either because I was clearly being sarcastic. But you clearly know so much about the situation already, all you needed to hear was the word 'gang' and you divined that they were all low-life trash. And stop throwing around the word 'retard' like some kind of retard.Desert Punk said:
Word of advice, making radical assumptions about people you know next to nothing about and calling upon the vocabulary of a 12 year old doesn't make for a compelling argument.
They gave them a real job. A chance to earn some money without breaking the law. What's wrong with that?Baldr said:
Exactly. Why shouldn't they get a chance? I seriously doubt that they chose that life.chadachada123 said:
It seems like a very bad idea, mostlly because gang members aren´t actors. But then again, bad voice acting would probably go well with the hideous 3D models.
They're not "giving" money to gangsters, they're employing them to do a legal legitimate job. If you're worried about them "being gangsters" then they're gonna stay gangsters if you deny them this chance to get a real job.
OT: This is bloody spectacular. It's one thing hiring a soldier to for voice acting and advice, but hiring hardened criminals to play hardened criminals is really thinking outside the box. Good job Rockstar, not even mad anymore that I have to pay for Live.
OT: This is bloody spectacular. It's one thing hiring a soldier to for voice acting and advice, but hiring hardened criminals to play hardened criminals is really thinking outside the box. Good job Rockstar, not even mad anymore that I have to pay for Live.
To be fair, I hardly think they asked them to renounce their life of crime and become seasoned voice actors.Ftaghn To You Too said:
I suppose it keeps em off the streets or a bit at least, maybe even convinces them to find more honest work...
Wow, a lot of negative reactions to this. Why?
Personally, I think it's a pretty snazzy idea. Real gang members know the gang life. They have the emotion attached to that life which will make the dialogue feel more real. They even let the actors change the script to be more true to their life.
I think it's a brilliant move for the voice acting. The VA industry often recycles the same people over and over (Tom Kenny, Phil LaMarr, Steven Blum, etc.), to the point where no matter how they change their voice, you can still tell it's them. With these no-names, nobody is going to get that "I've heard this voice before" disconnect.
Also, I've always held the belief that if I created a work of fiction based in reality, I would want as much authenticity as I could muster.
This is something I would have done if I were Rockstar.
This isn't "supporting gang members." These guys have actual lives. They watch movies, play games, eat food, pay rent. They probably have their own regular jobs sometimes. Gang members don't spend their whole life shooting each other. Don't act like you know where that money's going.
Personally, I think it's a pretty snazzy idea. Real gang members know the gang life. They have the emotion attached to that life which will make the dialogue feel more real. They even let the actors change the script to be more true to their life.
I think it's a brilliant move for the voice acting. The VA industry often recycles the same people over and over (Tom Kenny, Phil LaMarr, Steven Blum, etc.), to the point where no matter how they change their voice, you can still tell it's them. With these no-names, nobody is going to get that "I've heard this voice before" disconnect.
Also, I've always held the belief that if I created a work of fiction based in reality, I would want as much authenticity as I could muster.
This is something I would have done if I were Rockstar.
This isn't "supporting gang members." These guys have actual lives. They watch movies, play games, eat food, pay rent. They probably have their own regular jobs sometimes. Gang members don't spend their whole life shooting each other. Don't act like you know where that money's going.
If anything, it's the opposite. Rockstar has hired them because they're legitimately scary dudes who are actually involved in the gang lifestyle. To them, it's probably yet another example of how crime pays - if they weren't gangsters, they wouldn't have earned this money. It's legitimate employment, sure, but legitimate employment based solely on the fact that they are criminals. I don't think that's as positive a message as some in the this thread are trying to claim.Zachary Amaranth said:
Ugh, so much fail.Maiev Shadowsong said:
Hiring criminals =/= "supporting crime"
Do try and remember that other humans are other humans; people will do desperate and unpleasant things when they need money. Some of these guys probably blew their cash on booze and drugs. Some will have bought food, paid rent or child support with theirs. Let's also try and remember just how many other criminals we happily give our money to, how many actors and musicians and other miscellaneous celebrities whose crimes we just tend to shrug off as we buy tickets for their next movie. It's darkly amusing to see how many people only care when it's "the bad kind of criminals" getting paid.
Fucking thank you. This could even lead to certain routes. I mean shit, now they can add a voice acting credit to a resume, and not only that, it's with a major AAA blockbuster household name of a game. This could fucking save someone, and a bunch of dildos are acting like gangsters only spend money on criminal shit.chuckman1 said:
