Rocksteady Studios Accused Of Failing To Deal With Sexual Harassment

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It sounds more like botched approaches and jokes in poor taste of those employees than actual harassment. Those women could have just told those guys to fuck off but instead they try and hide behind some manager who needs to solve it for them. It's like bullying at school you can't hide behind regulations and protocols all the time. At one time you need to stand up for yourself and that is an important life lesson. Avoiding confrontation will only turn people more and more into vulnerable little snowflakes.
It’s personally been my experience that the casual but unambiguous “Fuck off” tends to happen first, because dealing with HR and Professional Standards sections in an exercise in migraine retention. No one ever deals with them unless they absolutely have to; so if this letter has been submitted then someone isn’t getting the message.
 
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How is that not a supremely one sided fight?
At a guess (I've not got to this point in picking up the comics I'm just nearing the end of new 52) it would be magic because Superman is vulnerable to it and the girl in the green hood seems to be casting some kind of spell or using some kind of magic power.
 

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And yet

Poison Ivy literally saves the day in Arkham Knight and sacrifices herself to save the city. She gets a big hero moment and actually is given more character as she is shown to be sticking to her principals and refusing to join Scarecrow and the others in taking over Gotham. We also get a show of how capable Oracle is despite being in a wheelchair and how she leaves clues and tries to fight back plus the little romance thing she has going on
That doesn't have anything to do with how they're designed. I wasn't really calling their agency into question, just how they're depicted, which in Arkham City kinda feels the most leery. Arkham Knight toned it down a bit with both Poison Ivy, Catwoman, and Harley Quinn. The latter of which also finally had an outfit that didn't look like garbage.
 

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At a guess (I've not got to this point in picking up the comics I'm just nearing the end of new 52) it would be magic because Superman is vulnerable to it and the girl in the green hood seems to be casting some kind of spell or using some kind of magic power.
I think the point is that the core members of the Justice League are all heavy hitters + Batman, whereas Suicide Squad is usually made up of C-listers + Harley Quinn, most of whom are barely above street level. Even without Supes, at least half the JL characters on that cover should reasonably be able to solo the Suicide Squad.
 

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I think the point is that the core members of the Justice League are all heavy hitters + Batman, whereas Suicide Squad is usually made up of C-listers + Harley Quinn, most of whom are barely above street level. Even without Supes, at least half the JL characters on that cover should reasonably be able to solo the Suicide Squad.
Pretty much: Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, The Flash and Aquaman acting alone should be able to stomp most of the Suicide Squad’s usual lineups into the dirt without breaking a sweat. All of them together, even with Superman in absentia? Should take as long as it takes the average suburbanite to buy their kid a happy meal.
 

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Pretty much: Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, The Flash and Aquaman acting alone should be able to stomp most of the Suicide Squad’s usual lineups into the dirt without breaking a sweat. All of them together, even with Superman in absentia? Should take as long as it takes the average suburbanite to buy their kid a happy meal.
Then again, this is comics, so there's no doubt some asspull justification.
 

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That doesn't have anything to do with how they're designed. I wasn't really calling their agency into question, just how they're depicted, which in Arkham City kinda feels the most leery. Arkham Knight toned it down a bit with both Poison Ivy, Catwoman, and Harley Quinn. The latter of which also finally had an outfit that didn't look like garbage.
true it should have been more directed at

Well, I mean even taking comic cliché into account. Comics still have given agency to their male-gazed women characters at the very least, even if only afforded to them by males.
Instead


I think the point is that the core members of the Justice League are all heavy hitters + Batman, whereas Suicide Squad is usually made up of C-listers + Harley Quinn, most of whom are barely above street level. Even without Supes, at least half the JL characters on that cover should reasonably be able to solo the Suicide Squad.
Well C-listers doesn't mean they aren't dangerous

Taking info from the DC wiki

Killer Croc has apparently enough jaw strength that his bite can pierce kryptonian Skin (General Zod in the shown case)
El Diablo is a human flame thrower pretty much
Deadshot is known as the Assassin who doesn't miss in DC basically for a reason
Captain Boomerang has tangled with the Flash before
Killer Frost can absorb heat and create ice constructs
Enchantress is basically insane Meta Human on the kind of power level of Scarlet Witch in Marvel almost

In the Arkham verse continuity the Suicide Squad nearly killed Batman forcing him to have to retreat as he couldn't take them on head on as such without help or a distraction.
 

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Which is pretty funny to me as I don't know of many men who dress up as Bat's and prowl the rooftops at night


You have seen comics books before right?

Hell compared to new 52 Suicide Squad they actually toned down Harley. Lets also not forget new 52 Catwoman doing a striptease for Batman at one point.

Also you do have the option in Batman Arkham City to just walk away as Catwoman or go back to save Batman.



And yet

Poison Ivy literally saves the day in Arkham Knight and sacrifices herself to save the city. She gets a big hero moment and actually is given more character as she is shown to be sticking to her principals and refusing to join Scarecrow and the others in taking over Gotham. We also get a show of how capable Oracle is despite being in a wheelchair and how she leaves clues and tries to fight back plus the little romance thing she has going on


yeh that's what I was wondering because there's a certain anime term that people keep claiming is transphobic which is highly up in the air because the argument for is it's used to try and make claims about Trans people trying to trick people (ignore that Kat Blaque has admitted to not being upfront with sexual partners before) while the anime community points out that no it's never actually been used towards actual Trans people and is more related to realistic cross dressers.





I mean it's Suicide Squad so it could well be Good Superman


yeh but some people are easily offended.

Things I've seen people get seriously offended by:
A highly valued community content creator and partner of the game asking them questions about why they couldn't use a certain different technique in cutscenes.
A company refusing to give them more creative control.
A group of investors refusing to invest in a studio with 1 game to it's name and that game hadn't even broken even yet.
AAA companies not making $100 Million Walking simulators
Games having the option of male or female characters.
Being drunkenly propositioned in a lift after spending the night having Dollar bills shoved into their bra (and no this wasn't a stripper)
A company creating a game where you play city Guards
The founder of Atari getting an award
Interviewing only men for an article despite the article and interviews being based on who the studios chose to have do the interview not the interviewer.
People not taking kindly to them doxing a person with no evidence on twitter and not letting them freely accuse people and dox them without evidence


I'm sure much more has happened 2 if I could be bothered to look it up
Harley didn't become known for wearing skimpy outfits until the Arkham games. The New 52 costume was based on the Arkham version.
 

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Another day, another AAA studio gets accused of harassment.


Sometimes I can't help but wonder how much all of this is true, (as it seems to hit every single studio these days), and how much is manufactured outrage for headlines.



It is quotes like this that make be question. Because what's the context? You know if a group of character artists are designing catwoman or harley quinn or something and they are talking about making her tits right or fixing the shape of her ass, i wouldn't call that derogatory or even sexual remarks about women. It's artists trying to make a character look right. I assume the people making video games are adults and shouldn't be forced to use pre-school terms for body parts so that nobody can possibly get offended.
Take a look at how the female characters in the games were depicted. Does it look like anything innocent was had in mind when designing them? Remember, Harley didn't become known for wearing skimpy outfits until after these games were made, so "getting her right" doesn't appear to have been a priority.

"unwanted advances" are absolutely a no go. But again....what's the context?
The context is the advances were unwanted and the behavior deemed inappropriate.

Remember when "Sticks and stones could break your bones, but words would never hurt you".
Remember when "don't be an asshole" was also a thing?
 
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Killer Croc has apparently enough jaw strength that his bite can pierce kryptonian Skin (General Zod in the shown case)
El Diablo is a human flame thrower pretty much
Deadshot is known as the Assassin who doesn't miss in DC basically for a reason
Captain Boomerang has tangled with the Flash before
Killer Frost can absorb heat and create ice constructs
Enchantress is basically insane Meta Human on the kind of power level of Scarlet Witch in Marvel almost
They're dangerous, that isn't in dispute. I mean sure, Killer Croc can bite into a Kryptonian, but first he's gotta catch one and that's not really in his wheelhouse. Enchantress does represent a genuine threat and ergo I would expect Wonder Woman and Aquaman to take her out first while Superman roundly spanks everyone else like their disapproving dad clearly never did.

I think there is a big box somewhere at both DC and Marvel comics that reads 'Deus Ex Machina Lucky Dip' so that whenever it needs to be contrived for example that the sort of low rent mother fuckers Amanda Waller can reasonably expect to have leverage over and control with her resources can go toe to toe with the fucking Founding Seven of the Justice League, the writer takes a shot of cheap vodka and sticks their hand in to get the plot device that will make it so. I won't say I'm not curious to see what they have for us this time.
 

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They're dangerous, that isn't in dispute. I mean sure, Killer Croc can bite into a Kryptonian, but first he's gotta catch one and that's not really in his wheelhouse. Enchantress does represent a genuine threat and ergo I would expect Wonder Woman and Aquaman to take her out first while Superman roundly spanks everyone else like their disapproving dad clearly never did.

I think there is a big box somewhere at both DC and Marvel comics that reads 'Deus Ex Machina Lucky Dip' so that whenever it needs to be contrived for example that the sort of low rent mother fuckers Amanda Waller can reasonably expect to have leverage over and control with her resources can go toe to toe with the fucking Founding Seven of the Justice League, the writer takes a shot of cheap vodka and sticks their hand in to get the plot device that will make it so. I won't say I'm not curious to see what they have for us this time.
Yup, that's pretty much the thing about matchups like these, pitting mostly street level characters against a group like the Justice League, composed mostly of demigods who can bench press mountains or more. They require either the Justice League to play hacky sack with the idiot ball for arbitrary reasons and/or nerfed into the ground for arbitrary reasons. Or for the opposite to happen to the opposing group, for equally arbitrary reasons.

Especially Flash, cuz superspeed is a super busted power. He should be capable of taking out the majority of Suicide Squad before the thought "fight" has even formed in their minds, and that includes Enchantress, since she's generally depicted as somewhat of a glass cannon. Hits hard, sure, but also goes down fast if you land a hit.
 
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Greedy shark cards Rockstar is also sexist, color me surprised.
 

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Fire your programmers because the girls from HR and Art are feeling unwelcome in the workplace, or give a seminar and a stern talk to your boys. Which will it be?
"But Iron, why not CHANGE their behavior?" They're grown ass adults. If I know my company has horndogs I'll avoid hiring women, or swap out the idiots if I can first.
 

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Fire your programmers because the girls from HR and Art are feeling unwelcome in the workplace, or give a seminar and a stern talk to your boys. Which will it be?
"But Iron, why not CHANGE their behavior?" They're grown ass adults. If I know my company has horndogs I'll avoid hiring women, or swap out the idiots if I can first.
Exactly. And more to the point, these women in the workplace are also grown ass adults and should be able to tell the difference between harassment and guys just messing around with each other. They should also be adults enough to tell someone doing something they dont like, "Hey Jeff, look I know you're kidding or whatever but that really makes me uncomfortable, so please just leave me out of it." And leave it there. Jeff goes off and leaves you alone and there is no more problem.

And the problem is women have fought to be treated like everyone else in the workplace, they fought to get into these positions where workforces have been entirely men for ages, and they should. More women in the work force is great. But then they realize that they don't actually like the work environment. You expect the men to change, because a few people in the office joke around with each other where you can overhear?

All it seems to do is cause problems. And I know it's sexist to think this, but if companies keep seeing these stories about how workplace behavior always becomes a problem when women get introduced into the workforce then what do you think is going to be more likely? Will companies start firing all their male employees? Or will companies simply stop hiring women? Especially since a lot of these stories turn out to be not as cut and dry as they get reported. Zoey Quinn, Matress Girl, Anita Sark, and more have all painted a gloomy picture based of lies.

And since these things get attention, or cause an uproar in and out of the company probably. I wonder how many people do it, just to watch the workplace go crazy for a while.

Look I'm not going to condone harassment. If someone is physically assaulting someone, directly sexually harassing (unwanted advances/touches), that kind of thing should result in an instant zero tolerance firing. 100%. But if a few people are joking around with friends within earshot of you, then grow the fuck up. Seriously that's something everyone should learn. If your feelings are that easily triggered then you have no business being in a workplace.