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tofulove

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and the goths never really owned it, just the city for awhile, than the moved on to Iberian peninsula than Africa. than Carthage. if my memory serves me.
 

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Ironic Pirate said:
Since the thread seems to have been answered, I would like to borrow it, if only for a bit.

What is your favorite ancient civilisation, and why?
LOL go for it, i've got what i came for ^.^

By the way, my Dad was intrigued with the answer :p
 

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Italy wasn't a country until it was unified in about the 1800s(I think thats about the right time) remember doing it for A-level history, type garibaldi into wikipedia and you can find out all about it there.
 

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Ironic Pirate said:
Since the thread seems to have been answered, I would like to borrow it, if only for a bit.

What is your favorite ancient civilisation, and why?
Do Vikings count? Because if so then they are my favorite because they didn't feel the need for a lame-ass excuse to go to war like the Holy Roman Empire did with the crusades. The vikings did that shit for breakfast. Also Norse mythology and paganism is so badass and interesting I find thinking of a cooler religion and culture difficult.

Ever read Beowulf?
 

tofulove

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laststandman said:
Ironic Pirate said:
Since the thread seems to have been answered, I would like to borrow it, if only for a bit.

What is your favorite ancient civilisation, and why?
Do Vikings count? Because if so then they are my favorite because they didn't feel the need for a lame-ass excuse to go to war like the Holy Roman Empire did with the crusades. The vikings did that shit for breakfast. Also Norse mythology and paganism is so badass and interesting I find thinking of a cooler religion and culture difficult.

Ever read Beowulf?
vikings count.

mine would be Gaul
 

Woodsey

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Because Italy was basically a bunch of separate states back then, I think, with Rome being the largest and most powerful.
 

tofulove

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Woodsey said:
Because Italy was basically a bunch of separate states back then, I think, with Rome being the largest and most powerful.
there success arguably started with they said to hell with the Greek style of fighting. was not practical in hilly and uneven terrain, and adopted a fighting style similar to that of Iberian tribes.
 

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Why would they be called Italians they weren't all from Italy were they ;P

Fav Civs:
Viking
Celts
Lombards

PS: Goths were teh gay ;P
 

tofulove

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BobDobolina said:
Ironic Pirate said:
What is your favorite ancient civilisation, and why?
Achaemenid Persia. Some of the most clement rulers the ancient world ever saw: pioneered multi-ethnic and religious toleration and sometimes even fostered the religions of subject peoples, let the Hebrews return to their homeland and rebuild their Temple, even granted the Ionian Greeks the right to hold elections (subject to the authority of the King of Kings, obviously, but still). They get a raw deal from Western history, which follows a largely fallacious tradition of portraying the Greco-Persian Wars as a struggle of survival for Greek culture. In fact, the Persians were the rare enemy of that time who in victory wouldn't have sought to extinguish Greek culture, philosophy, or even political traditions.
they pioneered empire building, and every thing that went with it. also pioneered basic human rights, as in cant beet your slave. unless he tries to escape, or fucks up really bad.

imo, they gave the jews there land mainly to create a buffer between them and eqypt.
 

tofulove

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BobDobolina said:
tofulove said:
Woodsey said:
Because Italy was basically a bunch of separate states back then, I think, with Rome being the largest and most powerful.
there success arguably started with they said to hell with the Greek style of fighting. was not practical in hilly and uneven terrain, and adopted a fighting style similar to that of Iberian tribes.
The entire Greek style of fighting was created to exploit hilly and uneven terrain. Look at a map of the Greek peninsula sometime.

The Roman legion was basically, in its earliest form, just the Etruscan legion. Rome was originally an Etruscan colony.
sorry if i get things wrong, bin many years since i had history class. but there fighting style was very similar to that of the tribes of Iberian peninsula, and was very effective against Greek style of fighting.
 

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The Romans who were actually Romans weren't real Italians. They were Greek settlers of Southern Italy who expanded northward and pushed out the Etruscans. While doing that they secured Rome from the Latins. They borrowed their language from the Latins and they took many of their customs from the Etruscans. Rome was the place they made their home base from their conquered territory. And it was called Rome. Because there was not Nation states at the time and rather anywhere powerful was a city state the conquered area would take the name of the city.

Much like if Athens in Ancient Greece expanded it's territory the conquered territory would likely take Athens as its name.
 

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666Chaos said:
Ironic Pirate said:
Since the thread seems to have been answered, I would like to borrow it, if only for a bit.

What is your favorite ancient civilisation, and why?
The mongols, because they had ghengis khan, and horse archers
That was what I would say, as well. And recurve bows are awesome.
 

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Ironic Pirate said:
Since the thread seems to have been answered, I would like to borrow it, if only for a bit.

What is your favorite ancient civilisation, and why?
I think I'd have to go with Greece, or Alexander's Macedonia. They had the perfect balance of Warfare, Art, Culture, Science, Philosophy and healthy questioning of fanatical religion. Also, Alexander's macedonia had a nice practise of adopting some of the cultures of places it conquered while still maintaining their own identity. If he never died and was able to solidify his empire, we might have been able to see an empire far earlier than the Romans be prominent. They likely would have maintained their strength for a long time.
 

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Ironic Pirate said:
Since the thread seems to have been answered, I would like to borrow it, if only for a bit.

What is your favorite ancient civilisation, and why?
the romans because were awesome no outer force could bring them down... until coruption and weak leaders came in

they were destroyed from the inside

and to answer the first guys question it sounded cooler if it was the (Italian empire) then people would think the romans operated like the italian mob syndicate
 

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martin said:
The Romans who were actually Romans weren't real Italians. They were Greek settlers of Southern Italy who expanded northward and pushed out the Etruscans. While doing that they secured Rome from the Latins. They borrowed their language from the Latins and they took many of their customs from the Etruscans. Rome was the place they made their home base from their conquered territory. And it was called Rome. Because there was not Nation states at the time and rather anywhere powerful was a city state the conquered area would take the name of the city.

Much like if Athens in Ancient Greece expanded it's territory the conquered territory would likely take Athens as its name.
Personally, I prefer Virgil's story of Rome's origins - that they were descended from the men of ancient Troy, who fled the city after it fell.