Spacerpg said:
gim73 said:
Well, nintendo abandoned RPG fans years ago in the N64 era and we have seen nary an rpg on any nintendo systems since, so wii users best be looking elsewhere for good rpgs (sole exception: tales of symphonia for the gamecube).
I'm sorry, you seem to have forgotten:
Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald
Pokemon Diamond/Pearl/Platinum
Pokemon Colosseum/Pokemon XD
THE FUCKING ABUNDANCE OF RPGs ON THE DS.
Damn.
Seriously? You would rather have POKEMON than:
Legend of the Dragoon
Shadow Hearts
Persona 3 and 4
Disgaea
Final Fantasy 7, 8, 9, 10, 12
Final Fantasy Tactics
Kodelka
Grandia 1, 2 and 3 (not xtreme!)
Xenogears
Tales of Destiny 1 and 2
Tales of the Abyss
Tales of Legendria
Panzer dragoon saga
Parasite Eve
Star Ocean 2, 3 and 4
Valkarie Profile 1 and 2
Castlevania SOTN
Legend of Legaia 1 and 2
Wild Arms 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5
Front Mission 3 and 4
Breath of Fire 3 and 4
Morrowind
Knights of the Old republic 1 and 2
Oblivion
Suikoden 1-5
Lunar 1 and 2
and the list goes on and on... I really haven't even mentioned any of the games in THIS console generation either.
When Nintendo failed to change with the times and produce a cd format system back in the mid nineties it sent all their heavy hitter 3rd party over to sony (well, working designs was over at sega then, but they eventually went to sony). Ever since then they have failed to make an impression on the rpg market. The N64 had the horrible Quest 64, which was a complete failure. Gamecube had a port of Skies of arcadia (that was fairly good, but I already owned it on my dreamcast) and Tales of Symphonia (which japan got for the ps2, and I will always envy them for that!). I also heard a couple of people mention fire emblem, which I have never personally played, but I do own an anime by that name.
It's not even a matter of casual vs hardcore. It's sheer quantity and quality that keep me away from nintendo. A couple of years ago I wouldn't buy an Xbox for the same reason, they had yet to impress me with an rpg worth buying the system for. Once Morrowind came out, I bought an Xbox for that game alone. Later on I added KotOR 1 and 2, Fable, Jade Empire and Morrowind GotY, but you really have to question the wisdom of buying a system for a bare handful of games. Xbox360 on the other hand has been getting an astounding number of rpgs lately. I'm really glad I chose to support microsofts system in this generation, despite my years of joy with sony.
Back in the ninties I was a nintendo fanboy. I even owned a gameboy, which was the last handheld system I will ever own. RPG's and handheld systems have always been in a sort of love-hate relationship. When you play an rpg on a handheld system it's like reading a book with bad lighting and limited battery life (not to mention small writing). I played Pokemon back when it was just blue and red. It was a decent game back then, for a handheld thing. All the new re-releases of old sprite based rpgs for the ds is nice, but I played them back on the original systems on a big screen tv, where each sprite was 3 inches tall!
Nintendo was fun. Hell, even now there are a few releases for the wii I would play, but If you sit me down with a copy of FFXIII and a brand new Pokemon game, 10 times out of 10 I will be playing FFXIII.