Rumor: Indiana Jones 5 Might Recast Indy, Ditch Harrison Ford
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True, but at least they were re-imagining the core concepts to create something that, to the audiences of the day, FELT fresh and new, rather than shamelessly mining the earlier franchises by rebooting old action-adventure serials or Flash Gordon with the same name, characters, etc.Flatfrog said:
The problem with going the 007 route is that James Bond could change with the times, particularly since for most of his existence he had the consistent backdrop of the Cold War. Indiana Jones doesn't have this luxury, he works well in a particular historical time period, the 1930s and 40s, and not so much anywhere else.
That's one of the (many) reasons Indy 4 fell flat. Since we're no longer in the cold war, Russian communists aren't nearly as stylish or compelling villains as the Nazis. And as RedLetterMedia pointed out, since Indiana is supposed to be a wish-fulfillment audience avatar an older Indy doesn't work, because no one really wants to be old. In the original trilogy and time period Jones is just the right age to be both a genius Professor and a sexy whip swinging adventurer without it seeming too silly.
But there's only so many globe trotting adventures you can squeeze into the 1930s and 40s before it starts to feel ridiculous. Especially if you're having to call audience attention to the passage of time by occasionally recasting the character.
I don't think Disney can get around this problem, but it might be interesting to see them try.
That's one of the (many) reasons Indy 4 fell flat. Since we're no longer in the cold war, Russian communists aren't nearly as stylish or compelling villains as the Nazis. And as RedLetterMedia pointed out, since Indiana is supposed to be a wish-fulfillment audience avatar an older Indy doesn't work, because no one really wants to be old. In the original trilogy and time period Jones is just the right age to be both a genius Professor and a sexy whip swinging adventurer without it seeming too silly.
But there's only so many globe trotting adventures you can squeeze into the 1930s and 40s before it starts to feel ridiculous. Especially if you're having to call audience attention to the passage of time by occasionally recasting the character.
I don't think Disney can get around this problem, but it might be interesting to see them try.
Honestly I'd have been happier if 4 had bombed horribly so that studios didn't want to make another, because I don't dislike bradly cooper he seems like a pretty cool guy and stuff but it's indiana jones and to me there's really only harrison ford. Any other actor would be trying to live up to his character and probably just come off as not that good.
I'd have actually been really angry if they wanted to reboot the series because those original 3 are perfect you can't remake them and not have it seem like a failure.
I'd have actually been really angry if they wanted to reboot the series because those original 3 are perfect you can't remake them and not have it seem like a failure.
It would be kind of amusing if they cast Sean Patrick Flanery for the role, since he's actually played Indy before.
From the Young Indiana Jones Chronicles:
But yeah at this point I'd rather the franchise was given the respect it deserves and let it rest.
Hey Hollywood, how about you make some new exciting adventure movie franchises instead of butchering old ones?
From the Young Indiana Jones Chronicles:
But yeah at this point I'd rather the franchise was given the respect it deserves and let it rest.
Hey Hollywood, how about you make some new exciting adventure movie franchises instead of butchering old ones?
Yes... well Crystal Skull spent too much time trying to be an episode of Stargate and not enough Indy. But I agree. Sometimes franchises should be put to rest.008Zulu said:
Bradley Cooper playing Indy during his World War 2 OSS adventures would be pretty cool. Plus it means we get to bring back the crazy Nazis and deadly artifacts.
You know what's really sad? I like Indy 4 as a movie on its own. Sure a lot of the practical effects were taken out in favor of CGI but I feel the CGI they used, especially for the vehicle chase scene in the forest, was a good style that fit the tone of the film. I think a lot of people's problem with Indy 4 is that perhaps it went a bit too over the top even though the original trilogy had some pretty silly over the top moments, like the entire Temple of Doom movie. Me and my circle I think enjoy that film a bit more than most people because of Roswell. I live in Texas now but I grew up not 30 minutes from Roswell and I had family there. So yeah the alien stuff got a smile from us and made the film enjoyable to our little corner of the world. You would not believe how much that town milks it. They remodeled their McDonalds to look like a UFO.FoolKiller said:
OT: If Indy goes the route of Jame Bond so be it. I actually think it would be refreshing. We'd have a spy franchise and an action adventure franchise that go on as long as someone wants. Sure Ford will always be Indy to most but should they go this route I'd have no complaints even if it just another sequel machine. Even if there are too many its not like they are or have to be bad, Skyfall anyone? Disney also has the golden touch these days. Between Marvel and the spectacular come back of their animation studio Disney is on top of the world right now. Also they've been handling The Muppets pretty good as well.
Are we talking about the same character? 'Cause the Indy I remember was constantly getting his ass kicked, cheap shot-ing folks, getting outsmarted by the bad guys, and basically by sheer luck coming out of scrapes alive.Bradeck said:
If anyone can pull that off I think it's Cooper.
Can you just NOT make more Indiana Jones movies? Can't we retire a series with a little dignity? The studios are gonna make their money anyway.
I doubt there's any real danger of Shia LeBouf taking over the franchise. Between the displeasure his portrayal of "Mutt" engendered and his recent efforts to torpedo his public image, I can't imagine anyone's in a hurry to return him to the role.
Still, I think there is a huge amount of untapped potential for the untold adventures of Indiana Jones. (I was going to say "continuing adventures", but I think that vein has been pretty well tapped out.) And while Harrison Ford is an amazing actor, his days as action hero are pretty much done and I think passing the role to a younger actor is a good idea. It's worked pretty well for James Bond, after all.
I don't have a real sense of Bradley Cooper's acting chops; he's not an actor that's made a strong impression on me. Ford brought a great sensibility to the character, but I'm sure there are other actors that could so the same.
Still, I think there is a huge amount of untapped potential for the untold adventures of Indiana Jones. (I was going to say "continuing adventures", but I think that vein has been pretty well tapped out.) And while Harrison Ford is an amazing actor, his days as action hero are pretty much done and I think passing the role to a younger actor is a good idea. It's worked pretty well for James Bond, after all.
I don't have a real sense of Bradley Cooper's acting chops; he's not an actor that's made a strong impression on me. Ford brought a great sensibility to the character, but I'm sure there are other actors that could so the same.
They can re cast Indy as who ever, but I think using the Bond method would have worked better if there was not that large gap between The Last Crusade and Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. All though, I still think its hard to follow the Bond method when you had the first Bond in the third movie...
Who's for Roger Moore in this possible 5th movie?
Who's for Roger Moore in this possible 5th movie?
I'm not opposed to casting a new Indy, as long as it's not Shia laDouche.
As others have brought up the TV series already had different actors portraying him so it's not a huge leap to have e.g. Cooper as Indiana Jones.
They just need to completely disavow Crystal Skull first. That movie should be hidden in the vault that also stores Highlander 2 and the Matrix sequels, never to be brought up again.
As others have brought up the TV series already had different actors portraying him so it's not a huge leap to have e.g. Cooper as Indiana Jones.
They just need to completely disavow Crystal Skull first. That movie should be hidden in the vault that also stores Highlander 2 and the Matrix sequels, never to be brought up again.
Hey why not recast it with a black guy, just to piss more people off. I mean a sequel these days just isn't enough to anger the indy purists (its ok I know there is no 4th movie). Its not like they could do any worse to anger fans, right?