Rumor: Microsoft Working on Halo: CE Remake

SilentHunter7

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So everyone loves/looks forward to the God of War and Team ICO collections, but an updated Halo is too soon, and a money-grab? Is there something I'm not getting?
 

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Okay 343 I'll trust you this once. But fuck this up and an almighty.....Aghh screw it Nothings gonna happen. As long as you keep Sgt Mjr Johnsons Speechs JUST how they were
 

Anton P. Nym

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Did a little digging at it looks like this is aulde and already debunked by Phil Spenser of Microsoft: IGN wrote it up on October 25th [http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/113/1130329p1.html]. So I wouldn't hold my breath in anticipation for Halo HD...

-- Steve
 

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A Curious Fellow said:
sir.rutthed said:
This is a terrible idea. Why the Hell would they remake the best game in the franchise so soon? Why not remake Halo 2? I think we can all agree it sucked donkey balls.

A Curious Fellow said:
I'd like to see the unincluded Covenant races find niches in Combat Evolved's campaign. I'd also be happy if they replaced the Library level with the concurrently unfolding events at Major Silva's Alpha Base invasion which was gone into in depth in the novelization of Combat Evolved.
Now, I haven't read many novelizations aside from Halo, but the novelization for Halo CE stands out in my mind as one of the worst pieces of literature I've ever read in my life. The further away from that cesspool of glorified fanfic, the better.
It's better written than Fall of Reach was.
I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. Fall of Reach is the one that really got the Halo novelizations off the ground as descent scifi. Nylund is a good writer with a good grasp on the Halo universe. Dietz was a hack who wouldn't know good narrative if it came up and smacked him in the face.
 

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SilentHunter7 said:
So everyone loves/looks forward to the God of War and Team ICO collections, but an updated Halo is too soon, and a money-grab? Is there something I'm not getting?
I thought the God of War collections were too soon too if that helps. Team ICO's games are sufficiently "indie" enough that a collection release after a game like Shadow of the Collossus reaches 'cult following' status makes sense.

But it's not just that. Whereas the GoW and ICO stuff were updated releases by the same studios, 343 is separate to Bungie. It's hardly shocking that some people want to see where *they're* going to take the Halo series rather than merely rehashing Halo: CE.

Though if Anton P. Nym's stuff is accurate (and I'm too lazy to check, and thus will assume it is) then we have nothing to worry about anyway.
 

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i wouldn't mind a remake as long as it didn't lose any of the features in reach. Flood Firefight anyone?
 

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Well, I already commented on this topic in the game section (it was posted before it became "Offical Escapist News". But hey, I don't make those decisions).

So here is my rant again:

*Sigh* It's things like these that make me question my choice of hobby.

Bungie gives us their swan song and Micro$oft is already looking to remake a game for no other reason than to milk the franchise. Fantastic.

This is a microcosm of what *all* gaming will become: Remaking the same exact game year after year after year. But they will try to fool you into thinking it's brand new content by adding a new gun, or working in a new gimmick that doesn't really change dick (hi there dual-wielding, you didn't fool me, and you aren't really any different than adding new guns).

Well. Whatever. I'm done trying to convince the unconvinced.
I just can't wait for Halo CE: Extra Shiny Edition to break sales records and drive game development back another 5 years.
 

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What really is the point in remaking a ten year old game. Microsoft, why not rerelease 360 versions of the first two games with online multiplayer back on it. Sony brought the first two God of War games on PS3 and the only difference is the graphics. What's the point in remaking something? To fix the flaws of the game your remaking? Well then make a different game. To me, it's too early to be talking about Halo again, Reach was a great finale, either end this series, or give it a break, either way there should be a new exclusive series for the 360 because Gears of War is coming to an end as well.
 

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AAAAAAAND it begins.
Well, if they're going to whore out the franchise they might as well go for the easiest way of doing it, the remake.

I'd be lying though, if I said I wouldn't want to play it. Seeing the first one rebuilt on the Halo 3 engine would be kinda cool.
 

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Amnestic said:
Whereas the GoW and ICO stuff were updated releases by the same studios, 343 is separate to Bungie.
You make a valid point.

I'll reserve judgment when and even if anything comes out of this. But if they do remake the game, and they change too much of it, I'll be very disappointed. The original Halo was amazing. Say what you want about the level design, the gameplay itself was just good old fashioned fun.

But it might not even happen, so no sense getting all worked up.
 

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Anton P. Nym said:
Did a little digging at it looks like this is aulde and already debunked by Phil Spenser of Microsoft: IGN wrote it up on October 25th [http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/113/1130329p1.html]. So I wouldn't hold my breath in anticipation for Halo HD...
And with further follow-up, I found the same item debunked here on the Escapist [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/104707-No-HD-Halo-For-Now-Says-Microsoft].

*shakes head, mutters about goldfish*

-- Steve
 

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John Funk said:
On the one hand, a ten-year-old game does seem a bit too recent to remake - especially given how fondly the original is remembered by millions of gamers.
Hey, after watching Sony pay to re-release PS2 games that aren't even as old as Halo without any sort of upgrades over and over again, a remake of a 10 year old game doesn't sound so bad. At least 343 will be doing more work than pressing the upscale button and adding trophy support.

John Funk said:
I'd be down with a remake ... as long as they fixed "The Library." Sweet baby Jesus, did I ever hate that level.
That was my first thought as well. "They need to do something with The Library, that level was awful."
 

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I'm torn about this
On one hand, I would love seeing CE with updated graphics, but on the other, I wish they would try a different thing, such as a Covenant game, like Vrex suggested.
 

John Funk

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Anton P. Nym said:
Anton P. Nym said:
Did a little digging at it looks like this is aulde and already debunked by Phil Spenser of Microsoft: IGN wrote it up on October 25th [http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/113/1130329p1.html]. So I wouldn't hold my breath in anticipation for Halo HD...
And with further follow-up, I found the same item debunked here on the Escapist [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/104707-No-HD-Halo-For-Now-Says-Microsoft].

*shakes head, mutters about goldfish*

-- Steve
HD Halo and Halo remake aren't quite the same thing.
 

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Oh good, I know Halo: CE was easily my favorite in the series, but the one complaint I had was that it wasn't yet another re-skin of Halo 3. #sarcasm
 

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I love CE so this does sound fundamentally awesome. But i cant help thinking its also really really really really lame.
 

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Amnestic said:
SilentHunter7 said:
So everyone loves/looks forward to the God of War and Team ICO collections, but an updated Halo is too soon, and a money-grab? Is there something I'm not getting?
I thought the God of War collections were too soon too if that helps. Team ICO's games are sufficiently "indie" enough that a collection release after a game like Shadow of the Collossus reaches 'cult following' status makes sense.

But it's not just that. Whereas the GoW and ICO stuff were updated releases by the same studios, 343 is separate to Bungie. It's hardly shocking that some people want to see where *they're* going to take the Halo series rather than merely rehashing Halo: CE.

Though if Anton P. Nym's stuff is accurate (and I'm too lazy to check, and thus will assume it is) then we have nothing to worry about anyway.
With the jump to HD this generation, it makes sense to upgrade the games from the previous one... assuming they're doing it at a reasonable price point. I think the original Xbox game goes for $20 on XBL, so I can see them adding about $10 to that. If they try to release it as a $60 game, then that's a naked money grab. I would like to see them do a Halo 1 & 2 pack for the 360... and I'm not even a Halo fan. I think a series as new and popular as this one *should* be available for new fans without dealing with some half-ass backwards compatability.

I also see this generation being the one where the game industry fully embraces its past. I think this is an important step in the maturation of the industry. Twenty years ago, getting hold of classic runs of comic books series was an expensive and time-consuming process. In the last ten years, the industry has done its best to preserve the books it considers its best (there's even controversy when they use modern coloring techniques on older books). Point being, if the industry wants to be taken seriously, they need to put forth a concerted effort to preserve the past (even the relatively recent past) for new customers.
 

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Quick few questions about the Reach engine: 1) Did Bungie program all of it and 2) If so, is Bungie still aloud to use it in their new games (do they have the rights to it)? I personally like the Reach engine (it has a distinctive look that separates it from all the gray Unreal engine games), so if Bungie made it, I would hate to see them be band from using it.
 

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Covarr said:
Nobody complained when the first three Super Mario Bros games were remade in All-Stars merely eight years after the SMB and only five years after SMB3. Nobody complained when Super Mario 64 was remade for the DS eight years later. Castlevania: SotN was remade for the PSP just about exactly ten years later. People complained when Sonic Adventure was remade for the gamecube, but only because the remake was crappy and buggy.

Really, some people will complain about anything. I, for one, support this decision. I'm sure console owners would love to have online in Halo 1 without needing the PC version.

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Except it's with the Reach engine, which means it wouldn't be "Halo 1" but "Halo Reach with different weapons."

I'd buy it if they included every Halo 2 map, since it seems Bungie has forgotten how to make good MM maps since then.
 

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Halo: CE is still one of the most enjoyable games around. It is too soon. One day, I will be clamoring for a remake, but not until the game feels too dated to get into.