Rumor: Mortal Kombat Reboot Locking Multiplayer Behind Online Pass
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Are you sure? You sure it even goes to the developers? Or does it just go to the greedy publishers.spartan773 said:
Think about it. These fuckers charge for content already on a disc through DLC, and now if you buy it pre-owned you have to buy more content on a disc.
You're owning less and less of the software you bought, even if you bought it new. How long does it take before a new game seriously becomes used? 6 months?
Gamestop, Best Buy sell used games.
Walmart/Online retailers (such as Xbox Live/PSN) do not.
Greedy fucks. They expect when some one buys a game a year or two later that their "online activation" bullshit is still going to be around? That crap costs money to maintain.
Now you tell me how much of that 10 dollars went towards the developers and not maintaining a shitty DRM system.**
** Note very rhetorical request that kind of data is hard to prove either way. I just don't believe that stuff is really out to "protect the developers".
The problem is what are they going to do when they scream "no one is buying our online passes; people are selling them to others". I know I don't care about multi-player so I am just as happy to sell my pass and get 10 bucks off the game for content I never use (of about 50 games I own I play 3 online). If gamestop (oh noes) is willing to buy my online pass and sell it will the game developers soon be bitching about the sale of unredeemed access codes? Just something to watch. I am all for developers getting their cut from used markets, however, I feel like they should be going after the used game stores, not the customer.
The game was already paid for once. This is a bunch of crap. They are trying to double dip their profits while not selling anything new. This would be like buying a ratchet from a garage sale and come to find out Craftsman will only let you turn it left till you pay them something extra. Or perhaps a used car that won't go over 15 mph till you pay the maker another $1000.
Let's say you want to buy a car from a used cars dealership, Mercedes for example. Do you have to give money to Mercedes in order to use the car or are you just gonna pay the dealership?AndrewC said:
What these developers are doing is just greedy and it's theft. They already have the money from that copy and they demand more?! The nerve! People have the right to buy used goods and they shouldn't have to pay anything to anyone else except the store they're buying from. Why are they allowed to get away with this shit?
The games are too expensive as it is. If they want to increase profit all they have to do is lower the prices of the games. Lower the prices $10, there will be more demand for the game and people won't sell their games to buy other games as much as before.
Lower prices = more demand, high prices = less demand and more piracy. That's basic economy.
I've talked about this in the past with people, but I'll put it this way: If you agree with this, you and I are on opposite sides of the fence.
Do an online pass, or do paid DLC. Don't do both. No one can tell me that the company is losing money after they release 10+ characters as DLC and the grand total of the game ends up being £90.
Do an online pass, or do paid DLC. Don't do both. No one can tell me that the company is losing money after they release 10+ characters as DLC and the grand total of the game ends up being £90.
Developers already made money on that copy. It's not their copy anymore. It was the copy of a person who bought the game and then that person sold the game to Gamestop. And now that copy belongs to Gamestop. Developers have no right to make any money out of it. There's an actual law against such behavior in my country that prevents bad greedy business deals and transactions and it protects the consumers. Consumers are the ones who should be protected, not the companies.Fawcks said:
What is wrong with you people? You are siding with corporations! Do you realize that by doing this you give up your rights? Rights you had as consumers not 10 years ago! Little by little you're giving them a free pass to fuck you anyway they want too.
So we're going to ignore the millions they're going to make on DLC content, like any other company? As far as I'm concerned, as far as these big companies go:Fawcks said:
And they didn't sell it, someone else did.
My entitled prick aspect is making me go "WHAT?"
My rational thinking aspect is saying "well, fair enough I am buying their game and playing on the servers they rent from Microsoft.
Just wish it was someone other than the draconian people at WBIE that were implementing it and then I'd be able to fully get behind it.
My rational thinking aspect is saying "well, fair enough I am buying their game and playing on the servers they rent from Microsoft.
Just wish it was someone other than the draconian people at WBIE that were implementing it and then I'd be able to fully get behind it.
Aww 
i intended to buy this cheap after the price droped! Oh well i guess i now have an excuse to get it at launch!
i intended to buy this cheap after the price droped! Oh well i guess i now have an excuse to get it at launch!
I could get behind it if they knocked down the price by half. 5 dollars seems way more reasonable then 10.
God feels like in the future we won't even own games anymore and they'll still cost the same amount.
God feels like in the future we won't even own games anymore and they'll still cost the same amount.
800 is a bit much, no? But still, it's good that the company actually gets some money out of used games. It's not fair to the developers that these retailers are buying back games and giving them at almost retail price again, but not giving any money back to the developers.
Anyway, waiting is another option. People can just wait a few more months and buy the game new, but at a lower price.
Anyway, waiting is another option. People can just wait a few more months and buy the game new, but at a lower price.
GS, as well as other retailers, also, supposedly, forces them dem publishers to sell digital copies for the same price as retail.Fawcks said:
I see a solution here: F them dem retailers, go all digital.
Which leads us to an even superior solution: F them dem publishers (except Valve).
I always by new. If I'm going to get a game, I want the full consumer experience with all the perks.StriderShinryu said:
Take a friend of mine, a long while back, I bought Advanced Wars: Days of Ruin for my DS, and he borrowed it for a bit and then wanted to get his own copy. A few weeks ago, he showed me that he now has a copy of the game, but he bought it used from GameStop and it didn't come with a game-case or a manual.
I look at it as, he may have saved money, but he lost around 20% of the product. With DS games, a game-case is key because those game-chips are so small.
New is really the only way to go if you want a sure thing, full experience and usage.
On a side note, I'm disappointed in Nintendo on the change they have made to the DS cases. The early DS cases had a little slot/holder just above the DS chip holder, that was a place that I could put my old Gameboy Advanced games. When I opened up my Pokemon White, the game-case was missing this useful aspect. Of course Advanced games are old, but they never had cases, and people are still buying old Advanced games to use in their DS's.
The problem is not everybody wants things to go all digital, and I am not talking about the retailers.ZeppMan217 said:
I only buy digital copies if the publisher only makes digital copies, and I'm not happy when I have to buy digitally.
I want a game case and disc. I want something physical that I have a control over. If something awful happens to my 360, I don't have to worry about the games that I have physical copies of. Barring a fire, nothing will happen to them.
My friend's 360 finally red-ringed a few months ago, everything would have been fine and easy if he hadn't had a tone of digital downloads on his hard drive.
When you transfer memory from on 360 hard drive to another, you lose the licenses that allow you to use that content. In order to use that content again, you have to have a connection that will support both a 360 and a computer, and then sign into your account on the 360 and do the same on the 360 website, then it will confirm those licenses, and then you have to re-download all of that content.
If they sold DLC by means of an expansion disc that I used to load the game onto my drive instead of a digital copy over the internet, than I would buy disc instead of the digital. The few extra bucks would be worth not having to go through the hassle that my friend did.
Edit: Like the Dragon Age: Ultimate Edition, that contains Origins, Awakening, and all the DLC. With the disc, all I have to do is put in the disc and re-download. No hassle to prove that I own the stuff the disc is allowing me to download.