Rumor: Mortal Kombat Reboot Locking Multiplayer Behind Online Pass
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If my buddy sells me a used game for $40, he can no longer play it online, as he lost the online portion in the transaction along with the rest of the game. However, if I need to buy an online pass, then I didn't receive the online portion. Effectively, part of the game simply disappeared in the process of a used game sale. Or, more accurately, the publisher basically stole it back to resell it.
As I see it, it's highly dishonest and greedy to demand extra money if the game's already been paid for. They have already received their money for a single copy of the game; it's not like a used sale creates a second copy of the product. They have no right to demand payment for something that has already been paid for.
Imagine, as an example, if every television were uniquely identified in a way that every set top device could recognize. Imagine further that you have a DVD player and a movie. You decide to resell the movie because it was Disaster Movie, you regret purchasing it in the first place, and are hoping to cut your losses. Should the person who buys it after you be barred from watching the special features since he didn't buy new? Does the fact that the studio isn't seeing ADDITIONAL profits from an ALREADY-SOLD unit mean that he is not entitled to everything that normally comes with it?
What about physical products? If someone resells a bookcase, does Ikea have the right to take the shelves back and demand payment so that the customer can have what they already purchased? Ignoring the fact that such a scheme would obviously be unfeasible to implement and impossible to enforce, it would also be a slap in the face of consumers' rights, and in most places considered illegal.
If a person sells a game and the buyer doesn't receive all of it because it's used, the publisher or manufacturer is STEALING. THIS IS THEFT, PLAIN AND SIMPLE. The entire game has already been paid for, and there are no additional copies in circulation as a result of this sale, so the publisher has no right to demand extra revenue from it.
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As I see it, it's highly dishonest and greedy to demand extra money if the game's already been paid for. They have already received their money for a single copy of the game; it's not like a used sale creates a second copy of the product. They have no right to demand payment for something that has already been paid for.
Imagine, as an example, if every television were uniquely identified in a way that every set top device could recognize. Imagine further that you have a DVD player and a movie. You decide to resell the movie because it was Disaster Movie, you regret purchasing it in the first place, and are hoping to cut your losses. Should the person who buys it after you be barred from watching the special features since he didn't buy new? Does the fact that the studio isn't seeing ADDITIONAL profits from an ALREADY-SOLD unit mean that he is not entitled to everything that normally comes with it?
What about physical products? If someone resells a bookcase, does Ikea have the right to take the shelves back and demand payment so that the customer can have what they already purchased? Ignoring the fact that such a scheme would obviously be unfeasible to implement and impossible to enforce, it would also be a slap in the face of consumers' rights, and in most places considered illegal.
If a person sells a game and the buyer doesn't receive all of it because it's used, the publisher or manufacturer is STEALING. THIS IS THEFT, PLAIN AND SIMPLE. The entire game has already been paid for, and there are no additional copies in circulation as a result of this sale, so the publisher has no right to demand extra revenue from it.
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I dont like it if for anything for the fact me and my friend like to go over to each others houses and play our games together and having to pay $10.00 to do that is sort of ridiculous. They are limiting playability and I will not buy this game or any like it because I do not like where this trend is going.
thats the thing though ten dollars, is alot less than ten pounds, and 800 points cost ten pounds in Great britain
I feel this is just another cash-grab that will soon become the norm if this takes hold. Keep in mind the trend in gaming used to be that you would purchase a game for its full retail price and get THE FULL GAME.
Now you get whatever the developers managed to finish and test before the company big-wigs said "enough, ship it out" regardless of the stage it was at. You can release the biggest crapfest imaginable, as long as you made a trailer for the game showing an awesome cutscene without any actual gameplay.
Now you get whatever the developers managed to finish and test before the company big-wigs said "enough, ship it out" regardless of the stage it was at. You can release the biggest crapfest imaginable, as long as you made a trailer for the game showing an awesome cutscene without any actual gameplay.
I bought Mass Effect 2 second hand at about 35 euros. Would I pay 10 more? Yeah, for ME2. Depends wholly on the game. MK and Batman are also 2 games I wouldn't mind paying an extra 10. Besides, it would still be a minus 15 to 20 euros from every game, so...
I just think it's too bad that they always do this by ripping off the consumer rather than the establishment that's causing their loss of revenue. Do you really think this is going to stop gamestop from selling the used copy for $57.99? Of course not. This will just lead to the consumers getting ripped off.Adzma said:
It's too bad because this looked like a game I would've bought new but this news inspires me to buy it used purely to make a statement. I wouldn't be playing this online anyway. Games like MK are meant to be played on the couch with friends. I'm not going to get so good at this game that I can go up against some 12 year old Korean kid who's been playing it 8 hrs a day since launch.
They can take their online and shove it.
You know what would be a hoot? the publishers charging retailers $10 for every used copy of their intellectual property and give the consumers everything inside the box. :O
must be a really silly concept to make royalties off someone else who is selling your IP for profit.
must be a really silly concept to make royalties off someone else who is selling your IP for profit.
Great, the publishers want to be greedy so the consumer is the one to get shat on... AGAIN.
Why can't this "pre-owned is destroying games" bullshit just go away? Where do you think we'd be without pre-owned game sales? Fucking nowhere because I wouldn't be able to find 80% of the games I want. What happens when they stop producing copies of the game or you want to find something from a previous gen? Exactly.
Maybe you should start looking at why so many pre-owned copies are on the shelf within days after launch, instead of screwing everybody even more.
Why can't this "pre-owned is destroying games" bullshit just go away? Where do you think we'd be without pre-owned game sales? Fucking nowhere because I wouldn't be able to find 80% of the games I want. What happens when they stop producing copies of the game or you want to find something from a previous gen? Exactly.
Maybe you should start looking at why so many pre-owned copies are on the shelf within days after launch, instead of screwing everybody even more.
listen, why else would there NOW be development of these paid online passes, DLC and the like?Xersues said:
This didn't exist during the ps2-xbox reign.
It's all because of the massive budget and shorter deadlines of today's games. They need a way to recoup losses based on the game. sure those prices are split umong sony/microsoft and their respective studios, but the fact still stands...
DLC and paid online passes are here to thrive. and, they said PRE-OWNED games, these passes are more than likely to be included in new copies. Example of this is Dead Space 2 Collector's Edition or new copies... it came with an online pass code... most likely this implementation will exist in 2 ways, a limited-time, one-use code included in new games and paid passes for pre-owned games...
They're finally realizing that pre-owned games exist and that they see it as a loss since none of the money goes to them,
may sound greedy but that's a bare necessity. that money's crucial... without money, coders, modelers, actors, studios would be out of jobs. no money = no more future games.
This is so much crap. I rented Homefront only to find out I was locked at Level 5 online unless I paid up for a code. This idiotic plan absolutely kills rentals for everyone.
And $10 to rank past Level 5 Homefront with it's horrendous party system and constant disconnections? No thanks. Fix your fucking game before you even think about charging extra for online play.
Now Mortal Kombat will have no online at all unless you buy new? Bullshit.
And $10 to rank past Level 5 Homefront with it's horrendous party system and constant disconnections? No thanks. Fix your fucking game before you even think about charging extra for online play.
Now Mortal Kombat will have no online at all unless you buy new? Bullshit.
But you didn't buy the game, and even though rental copies cost much more than retail copies, neither you nor anyone else who rented the game have the right to enjoy the online features. I mean that makes sense, right? T_TShy_Guy said:
I can understand shipping the game with a DLC code, bonus content not needed for the game. These day online multiplayer is expected, so I'm calling BS on this. It's like MW or CoD not coming with it, it's why people buy the game in the first place. 1st day DLC is fine, reduced functionality is not.
I have no problem throwing a little extra money the developers way; HOWEVER, I do have a problem with the way they're doing it. I feel like I'm having a finger pointed a me saying I'm the problem. I do buy games used, but the 2 biggest reasons I do that is 1: I wasn't interested in the game at launch and now have to buy used if at all or 2: I didn't feel like paying the $60 at launch and decided to wait for a price drop. Again, no problem with the idea of DLC or the like, just a problem with the fact I'm being pointed at as though I was a pirate.
No, but the dealership has to pay Mercedes if they want to keep their dealer license and continue to sell said vehicles.ImprovizoR said: