Hmm, has nintendo revolutionized the gaming industry again? We'll have to see; having said that, I think Microsoft should stick to their crowd, Nintendo is doing the casual thing already (with Sony going the same direction), we need at least ONE traditional gaming console don't we?
Rumor: Natal is Actually Next Xbox
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Hmm. cool, If this will be a new console, i might buy it, depending on backwards compatibility and all that tech stuff. Oh and price, the most important thing to me.
haha, that's what I figured.tendo82 said:
New high profile technology for existing technology=longer support
I'm just hoping they deliver and not fail fantastically.
Hopefully it is just going to be an expansion on the 360 and not a separate console. It could be the Xbox Wii60. They could phase out the Xbox Arcade level and just have a choice of Pro, Elite and Natal.
At most, they'll launch a System + Natal Package for people who are just-now buying the 360. It would be a terrible idea to launch Natal as it's own special 360 system, since anyone who already has a 360 and is skeptical enough about it won't want to shell-out the price of a full system to get what they already have plus something they aren't sure about.
It's main problem right now is the delay. If I wave my hand to react to something that's happening in the game, the action for it cannot happen a full second later. Microsoft claims that they're going to run "A List" games with Natal. Not with delay in the controls like that. Imagine playing Halo and trying to snipe someone, but there's a second of delay between pulling the R-Trigger and the gun going off... and you're not even playing online yet.traceur_ said:
They have time to iron it out, so I'm still interested to see what they can do with it. As-is though (with the control delay), it's little more than a gimmick that's slightly more fancy than the Eye Toy.
I doubt they'd start on a brand new console this early into X-box 360's current success. By the looks of things chances are this is likely to be some sort of motion control so Microsoft can jump on the motion control bandwagon, or it could be a webcam sort of thing. Think eye toy, but with potential.
I'm expecting Milo will shut down or do something really awesome, like break your XBox, if you try to abuse him.The infamous SCAMola said:
MILO: "Oh, hi there. Why are you wearing the same blue shirt as yesterday?"
PEDO: "Want me to take it off?"
Yeah, Milo lends himself well to that sort of stuff. It's a shame, really. That probably will be all that the press are going to talk about.
Because there is fuckall of a way to play Call of Duty, Halo 3, Or Gears of War 2 with Natal, it's certainly not.
I can see an Arcade Natal though, to compete with the Wii.
Also, am I the only one who reads natal as the same way as "pre-natal" and not "pretentious re-pronouncing of an established word"?
I can see an Arcade Natal though, to compete with the Wii.
Also, am I the only one who reads natal as the same way as "pre-natal" and not "pretentious re-pronouncing of an established word"?
Pretty sure if it was a new console they would have said it at E3, I mean what better way to destroy your opponents publicity then to suddenly unveil "A New Console".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GH_gDreIdcMKwil said:
There's very obvious delay on a number of the actions in this video. Just watch the girl during their first little demo. I can actually pause the video at parts where she's lifted her leg, but the model on the screen still has both feet planted on the ground:
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/6960/nataldelay.jpg
That will NOT fly if they expect Natal to have A-list titles. Laggy control like that is barely even B-grade quality gaming. But like I said, they still have time to iron it out and make it more instantly responsive.
Next generation Sony and Microsoft are going to have their all special gimmicky muck-a-muck, super-powered to handle the most mG's (mega-Gimmicks) a second, and Nintendo will come back with a cheap, standard-type console that's just as powerful as the previous generations and watch them flounder as they fight each other because it will get all the hardcore games and once again end up on top of a mountain of money.laikenf said:
If this truly IS the next Xbox, though, they better allow room for you to play regular games, otherwise it'll probably tank. While the Wii simplified its motion controls a bit, there is no way you can simplify just a camera. At least, that's the impression I get out of this. OK, it's a camera that will be reading a lot of 3D data and processing, but that's just it: it seems like the real function here is for the game programmer to say "How do we read all this data?" I'm not entirely sure on how the technology works (and if anyone has an idea or anything correct me) but this seems like this is going to make the effort of making the game more complex, causing a rise in development kits and thus game prices, and also causing fewer developers to actually want to make games.
If they really thought this through, they'll most likely make this just an add-on. Unless, of course, they DO supplement it with standard games and the higher density discs. Then it's got a chance. And I say this because I have a feeling that the next generation, whenever it comes, won't be nearly as much about graphics.
I'm probably wrong here, but is there a chance that the delay was as a result of putting it up on the big screen?WhiteTigerShiro said:
I suppose that's possible, which would then be less of an embarrassment for Natal and more of an embarrassment for the crew who set-up their system. Still, it's the only live video of actual gameplay I've found on Natal. Only other live footage I've seen is with Milo, which doesn't really require high amounts of motion interactivity. Still... I think she was swishing her hands in the water... I could go check that out, but it would be harder to decipher since it isn't a body-double I'd be comparing.Arcticflame said:
Edit: Yeah, hard to see clearly. Still, it does do some impressive things, like how it has her reflection in the water (and good lord is she hot, just gotta throw that out there. Women aren't the only one's captivated by a British accent). So yeah, like I said, looks like a lot of interesting things that could potentially be done with Natal, but I'd have to see more (live) gameplay footage.