Rumor: Next Xbox Will Require Constant Internet Connection

[FoolKiller]

I just thought of another problem. I have 3 360s in the house (well technically one is my mom's). If they are telling me that I would have to pick where to play my game forever because of this, then they could go fuck themselves. I already hate the fact that I have to manipulate DLC in order to use it everywhere I can.

 

[dmase]

Egh I have a hard time believing anything except the blu-ray part.

 

[likalaruku]

The only people I can see tolerating the always-on net connection without complaint are those that play nothing but MMOs & Facebook games...& while there are a shit-ton of gamers like that because those games are generally free, it's still not really Microsoft's target audience.

 

[Mogule]

I really doubt that. Because of the difference in the way how pirating works in the XBox360 it is hard to state numbers that are actually true but it is about as easy and less costly than pirating on the PC.

I feel you are clueless on piracy for the xbox.
1) Depending on the CD-drive model you may have to just flash or even solder and physically mod your xbox. This may require someone to send their unit off to someone, and pay them, to get the necessary job done.
2) EVEN AFTER it's modded to play pirated games, you'll need DL-DVD Roms. They're about $.50-$1.00 per disk (compared to the remarkably cheaper DVD roms, dem thing expensive).

That said it is FAR more expensive to pirate on the xbox than the pc where all it is is:

EDIT: It's simple in a number of words

And the only expenditure is the pc.

I thought to pirate on xbox you needed to physically modify one of the old fat white ones with a specific chipset to turn it into a JTAG (Which explains why there's a certain model that's more expensive than the new ones on ebay) and then download the pirated game and do.. I don't know, stuff to get it onto the console and then you can't run it online.

As opposed to downloading a cracked PC game.

I'm pretty sure that's how it works but can't say I've looked into it beyond a flatmate explaining it to me. The dirty pirate.

Nah, any model can be flashed. However JTAGing an Xbox is objectively better, due to you being able to install games onto the Xbox. Also, it's not necessarily a certain model you're looking for, but an update. If it's been updated from the old blades to the newer windows then that update takes up too much memory on some chip to do the JTAG job.

 

[Sonofadiddly]

Never underestimate the stupid of Microsoft.

Not that I would buy the next Xbox anyway, but all of this hating on the used games market is starting to make Nintendo seem appealing again. If any of it turns out to be true, I'm buying a Wii U out of spite.

 

[Mogule]

I feel you are clueless on piracy for the xbox.
1) Depending on the CD-drive model you may have to just flash or even solder and physically mod your xbox. This may require someone to send their unit off to someone, and pay them, to get the necessary job done.
2) EVEN AFTER it's modded to play pirated games, you'll need DL-DVD Roms. They're about $.50-$1.00 per disk (compared to the remarkably cheaper DVD roms, dem thing expensive).

That said it is FAR more expensive to pirate on the xbox than the pc where all it is is:

But the PC is still a big chunk of an investment while a used XBox costs little to nothing. Unless you want to pirate hundreds of games I don't think you'll surpass the costs of a medium-tier gaming rig.

I really just go by how people get cracked and pirated consoles/console games in my city (because there are those guys everyone knows or knows how to get hold off, they prepare the console for ~40? and sell you games for 2?-5? depending on how many people are asking for it).

It all depends. I got a mid-tier gaming laptop for $300 due to the idiots at a local pawn shop and a 2 TB External HD for $120 from walmart. And my xbox was $100 from a shady guy on Craigslist. (Hypothetically) $40 for a flash job and maybe $50 for some disk. It's roughly $200 cheaper to go through more hassle, and be on limited resources (disk)

Whereas, the laptop is mobile and easy to work with. It also doesn't RRoD NEAR as much as my xbox has.

Also, I've never though of a black market for games. Seems a little silly seeing as how easy burning a game to a disk seems.

 

[Karma168]

If this does turn out to be true then I'll probably not bother with the next generation and just build a decent pc, hook it up to the tv, get a controller and just buy games off steam. I'm a student so only get games when they're less than half the initial price and I don't play online (my xbox isn't even hooked up) so I'd have no need for a connection (beyond downloading patches, etc.)

Hell I'll probably do it anyway, just like the convenience of knowing my xbox will run a game without having to check the back of the box first.

 

[Suave Charlie]

Nah, any model can be flashed. However JTAGing an Xbox is objectively better, due to you being able to install games onto the Xbox. Also, it's not necessarily a certain model you're looking for, but an update. If it's been updated from the old blades to the newer windows then that update takes up too much memory on some chip to do the JTAG job.

Your last few posts have been fairly enlightening, wasn't aware of the ins and outs of xbox piracy.

 

[klaynexas3]

It's good to not like the XBox in any way, shape, or form to begin with. Not like I'll have to worry about any of this.

But seriously, this is just stupid if it is in any way true, which I have so little faith in the console division of Microsoft to honestly see it as a possibility. At any rate, if consoles turned into this, I think that the only major console that would flourish would be anything by Nintendo, and then for open source gaming we'll all turn to the game-pad and the ouya. Those two came at the exact time that we needed them.

 

[Sheo_Dagana]

They'd be shooting themselves in the foot if they do this, but it's only a rumor for now. It was previously speculated that the system would be discless as well. Microsoft had said in the past that they would not take away consumer choice when it comes to used games, although that was in an article I can't find now.

Either way, I'm not worried. Rumors are rumors. But... if this is true, I may have to reconsider getting the new Xbox. I primarily buy pre-owned games, but as a poor college student, I live on trade-ins in order to get the new products. That's how I got Halo 4.

 

[natster43]

If this stuff is true I am almost definitely skipping the next Xbox and probably just get a good PC.

 

[Jesse Billingsley]

I certainly hope this is a rumor....Because so far, the more I think about wanting to play games like Journey, Shadows of the Colossus, and a few other PS3 only games, the more I want to switch over and just buy a basic Xbox Slim.

 

[lacktheknack]

Journalism at it's finest. No source, no research, nothing but a (anti)fan fic story.

Gaming "journalists".
http://x-surface.tumblr.com/post/41282771026/x-surface-dont-believe-everything-you-read

You did see the big fat "rumor" attached to the title, right?

That's the definitive "I have no evidence, but you might be interested" statement. If you came in here expecting definitive reporting, that's your fail. Don't be so antagonistic just because you have an axe to grind. Feel free to complain about it when you see it in an article that ISN'T labeled "rumor".

OT: Nope. I don't believe a word of it.

 

[CardinalPiggles]

If this turns out to be true, I won't be buying one.

I don't want a Kinect, I don't want to be connected to the internet at all times, and I certainly don't want both of those things together.

Throw in the fact that I can't borrow and play my friends games. Microsoft can go to hell. I'd rather not have a console.

 

[bigfatcarp93]

THAT'S RIGHT, FUCK THE POOR GAMERS.

Especially in this awesome economy, right guys!? High fives!

/sarcasm.

 

[tautologico]

I really doubt that. Because of the difference in the way how pirating works in the XBox360 it is hard to state numbers that are actually true but it is about as easy and less costly than pirating on the PC.

I feel you are clueless on piracy for the xbox.
1) Depending on the CD-drive model you may have to just flash or even solder and physically mod your xbox. This may require someone to send their unit off to someone, and pay them, to get the necessary job done.
2) EVEN AFTER it's modded to play pirated games, you'll need DL-DVD Roms. They're about $.50-$1.00 per disk (compared to the remarkably cheaper DVD roms, dem thing expensive).

That said it is FAR more expensive to pirate on the xbox than the pc where all it is is:

Heh, you people in 1st world, affluent places have no idea how things roll in other parts of the world. I modded a friend's xbox once, was fairly easy. But even if you can't do this yourself, you can get your console to a store and a guy will mod your unit right away. Then you can buy, from the same store, pirated copies that cost 10% of the price of a legit game. Or you can download an iso from the internet and buy DL-DVDs, but this is too much work for most users.

The same users who don't know how to download a game and burn it to disc will normally not have the knowledge to know even basic stuff like if a PC is able to play (AAA) games. PC gaming is a lot simpler than it was before, but many people still prefer to connect the console to a TV and put a disc in.

 

[Terminate421]

Microsoft can be dumb at times like every company but....no. They aren't this stupid.