Rumor: "Nintendo Fusion" Is Nintendo's New Next-Gen System

[Roxas1359]

As others have pointed out, this is a load of BS. The price for some of these specs would put Nintendo out of business in a heartbeat when it comes to mass producing things. Hell, they are still taking a loss with the Wii U and making a whole new console would just shoot their stocks in the foot.

 

[RicoADF]

Admittedly it would be kind of obvious why Ninty would decide to replace the WiiU so soon, but its also kind of strange that they would seriously consider a new console when the current one isnt even two years old.

Perhaps the "Fusion" version is a higher spec machine running the same OS (and thus, current WiiU titles) capable of running current gen AAA games?

Not to mention if this is actually true then it would vindicate that Eurogamer article about how Ninty basically didnt know what they were doing when making the WiiU a thing.

Developing doesn't necessarily mean they plan to release within the next few years, Consoles are often started development on shortly after the last console is released, this would just be an early concept/idea at best if the rumour is even true.

 

[Hoplon]

The specs are all over the place.

that graphics card lists shader cores? which i can't find any other GPU listing, an 8 core processor with a co processor? what for? this seems more like a list of possible components rather than a final list of an actual machine.

I mean if they where really smart surely they would just get the same jaguar chips as the Xbone and the PS4 to allow ease of development perhaps? I dunno.

GPUs always list graphics cores, generally have to google the specs though . The main issue is that the listed GPU here has more shader cores than an R9 290X (2560 cores). Which would be insanely powerful (as in, more powerful than the best PC GPUs, so yeah, not happening based on that alone), and also generate far more heat than any console will ever handle without some mega expensive cooling (The R9 290X negates the need for central heating).

It is definitely false Nintendo can't afford to mass produce a console with a £300 GPU, never mind the rest. Furthermore, with everyone else on x86 cores, it makes zero sense to go for an IBM powerPC part.

But anyways, should this fantastical machine exist (maybe it'll come out in 2016 and therefore all these parts will be distinctly mid range, which would be about right) and theey release a Pokemon MMO as a launch title, I'd buy it

Sure but those are stream processors. the shader clock is a separate thing, that's why it struck me as incongruous. Yes, it would be £1000+ console at this sort of specs, which is basically anti Nintendo.

 

[Aiddon_v1legacy]

their fanfiction sucks. Seriously guys, you just DON'T hear specifics about Nintendo hardware. The only time you EVER get leaks is MAYBE a couple months before its reveal. Other than that, you just DON'T get a peep from them. For crying out loud, they kept stuff like Other M, X, and Hyrule Warriors a secret do you REALLY think they'd let something like their hardware leak?

And like I said, it just reads like a fanboy with too much imagination writing out a dream scenario. Sure, it'd be nice to get something that could blur the line between handheld and console, but unfortunately the tech is a LITTLE too impractical right now. Well, it could be possible, but of course "gamers" would whine about the obvious: the power due to having to be comparatively low-powered in order to keep costs down. So, not close and not cigar. Methinks people should stop daydreaming.

 

[Dragonbums]

Escapist- what's going on with you and Nintendo this week? Even the other sites have died down.

 

[xaszatm]

I would be surprised if whoever started this rumor wasn't simply an elaborate troll, which is very common for Nintendo right now. People keep acting like the wiiU's failure of a first year is somehow important and unheard of, seemingly forgetting the PS3 was the worse disaster in Sony history when it first came on store shelves; to the point everyone predicted Sony was out of the console race. Then the 3DS immediately bombs, and everyone predicts Nintendo will immediately release another handheld or get out of the portable market. Somehow, even with the 3DS being recent, people manage to forget all of that and immediately start making predictions for the wiiU not at all reflecting events common in the gaming industry or Nintendo's own history.

Sometimes I wonder if some sort of sci-fi related catastrophe hit our world years ago wiping everyone's minds, because I seem to be one of the only people who can remember the last 7 years.

Oh thanks! I thought I missed one person *zaps*

OT: Uh, yeah. Not only is this a horrible business decision that will destroy any goodwill left, those specs are horrible and way too expensive. This is getting a bit ridiculous. I, mean, can I start a rumor now that says the PS5 is coming within a month because there currently is a bricking problem going on right now? Sheesh...

 

[Vie]

"SDHC "Holographic Enhanced" Card Slot up to 128 Gigabyte Limit"

I'm going to call this bull right here and now. SDHC cards have a max capacity of 32GB, I don't see any way adding holograms into the mix is going to get past that limit of the format.

 

[CriticalMiss]

name it SNES2.

They should call it the Ultra Nintendo and pretend that is what the U in WiiU was all about but ditch the Wii bit along with flail controls. Then in a few years we can look forward to the Hyper Nintendo!

 

[Aiddon_v1legacy]

Escapist- what's going on with you and Nintendo this week? Even the other sites have died down.

I dunno, getting what they can in before a Direct reminding us why worrying about Nintendo is kind of pointless? Seriously, it's not even like a a sport where there's a national championship and thus some sense of "losing" remains. At best you can only knock Nintendo down a peg, you can never kill them

 

[james.sponge]

I'd like to see a new Metroid Prime instead, a good one that is.

 

[Nuvo]

GPU: Custom Radeon HD RX 200 GPU CODENAME LADY (2816 shaders @ 960 MHz, 4.60 TFLOP/s, Fillrates: 60.6 Gpixel/s, 170 Gtexel/s)

The PS4's GPU only manages around 1.84TFLOPs, so this would be over twice the power.
Based on these numbers, it's floating around Radeon R9 290 or 290X levels, which is odd unless this is aimed at releasing in a few years (especially since the TDP of an R9 290 is 250W, which is likely more than an entire PS4).

CPU: IBM 64-Bit Custom POWER 8-Based IBM 8-Core Processor CODENAME JUMPMAN (2.2 GHz, Shared 6 MB L4 cache)

Why would Nintendo go with IBM's architecture again?
It should be clear that x86 is going to become the standard for home consoles, and stuffing an 8 core IBM CPU into a console is a terrible idea as it's going to get really quite warm without providing any real benefit over an x86 (if IBM had been able to cram so much power into a small package without issues, Intel wouldn't be raking in Apple's money now).

Co-CPU: IBM PowerPC 750-based 1.24 GHz Tri-Core Co-Processor CODENAME HAMMER

Why would it need a second IBM processor?
I know the PS4 has a secondary processor, but that's an ARM chip used for background tasks.

MEMORY: 4 Gigabytes of Unified DDR4 SDRAM CODENAMED KONG, 2 GB DDR3 RAM @ 1600 MHz (12.8 GB/s) On Die CODENAMED BARREL

This seems quite low considering that both the PS4 and XBOne have 8 GiB, and DDR4 isn't even going to be readily available until mid to late 2014 (and will likely have a price premium of around 30% when it does come out).

802.11 b/g/n Wireless

No 802.11ac?
Bluetooth v4.0 BLE
2 USB 3.0
1 Coaxial Cable Input
1 CableCARD Slot
4 Custom Stream-Interface Nodes up to 4 Wii U GamePads

Versions with Disk Drive play Wii U Optical Disk (4 Layers Maximum), FUSION Holographic Versatile Disc (HVD) and Nintendo 3DS Card Slot
1 HDMI 2.0 1080p/4K Port
Dolby TrueHD 5.1 or 7.1 Surround Sound
Inductive Charging Surface for up to 4 FUSION DS or IC-Wii Remote Plus Controllers
Two versions: Disk Slot Version with 60 Gigs of Internal Flash Storage and Diskless Version with 300 Gigs of Internal Flash Storage

Unless Nintendo is some kind of secret pioneer in the storage world, they probably won't be using HVD's on a games console as it's simply not feasible to do so.
General Electric has created 500GiB HVD's, but these aren't production units, and the cost of a HVD drive is likely to be far too expensive unless you like paying a few thousand dollars for your consoles (if you do, I have a nice drawing of one I'd like to sell you ).
Whacking a 300GiB SSD into a console isn't likely to happen any time soon as it would increase the cost by quite a lot more than a standard HDD (a 256GiB SSD is around £110 while a 1TiB laptop HDD is around £75).
Nintendo is also far from being a leader in online services (didn't Christmas cause their online services to completely break down?), so them rolling out the first big digital only console would be bad...
Sony couldn't even manage it with the PSP Go, and that wasn't pulling next gen home console games down from the internet.
Inductive charging for future DS consoles should not be integrated as console owners might not buy handheld systems, meaning it's a waste of money unless they supply inductive charging controllers with the console, and even then, building the charging plate into the console is stupid as:
1: Screws you over if you can't fit the controllers on top of the console in your entertainment set-up.
2: Any charging peripherals could block vents, leading to cooling issues and reduced performance or lifespan.

 

[J Tyran]

Well this new rumour fits well with a different one that surfaced a few days ago, it was going around that Nintendo had ordered a new customised System on Chip for an unspecified device.

http://playeressence.com/rumor-nintendo-has-begun-initial-process-on-next-generation-machine/

Rumours are rumours but when you start to get different but correlating rumours from different sources something must be going on.

 

[Sigmund Av Volsung]

Wait what?

...They already have a next gen console?

WHAT?

WHAT IS HAPPENING?

HAS SATORU IWATA IMPLODED UPON HIMSELF?

WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING?

WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS FUSION THING? ALL THEY NEED IS BETTER MARKETING AND MOAR GARMS.

Seriously, what? I do not know what to make of this.

 

[Dragonbums]

Wait what?

...They already have a next gen console?

WHAT?

WHAT IS HAPPENING?

HAS SATORU IWATA IMPLODED UPON HIMSELF?

WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING?

WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS FUSION THING? ALL THEY NEED IS BETTER MARKETING AND MOAR GARMS.

Seriously, what? I do not know what to make of this.

Don't be surprised. Honestly all three manufacturers start planning for new consoles the moment they release their next gen console (and if not immediate a year or so later) from there it's all a guessing game on what their competitors might implement, how much power they are going to use, etc. etc.

As everyone else has stated though, these specs seem to be a load of ass. I'm also highly doubtful that something that leaked this early. Especially from Nintendo.

Didn't we learn about not taking anonymous sources to heart?

 

[Hairless Mammoth]

This is pure speculation. Nintendo has a successful handheld. The next gen for that is MILES down the road. And people have said before that releasing a new console a year after the Wii U's launch will HURT their reputation. Just look a the 3DS Ambassador program; they had to compensate early adopters for a price drop of a system to do damage control. The Wii U needs games. It is powerful enough and unique, and the other system have no real benefit over it or PC besides exclusives now. All three even need updates constantly. Nintendo also doesn't release spec on their consoles, so this is just a product of the rumor mill.

 

[Sigmund Av Volsung]

Wait what?

...They already have a next gen console?

WHAT?

WHAT IS HAPPENING?

HAS SATORU IWATA IMPLODED UPON HIMSELF?

WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING?

WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS FUSION THING? ALL THEY NEED IS BETTER MARKETING AND MOAR GARMS.

Seriously, what? I do not know what to make of this.

Don't be surprised. Honestly all three manufacturers start planning for new consoles the moment they release their next gen console (and if not immediate a year or so later) from there it's all a guessing game on what their competitors might implement, how much power they are going to use, etc. etc.

As everyone else has stated though, these specs seem to be a load of ass. I'm also highly doubtful that something that leaked this early. Especially from Nintendo.

Didn't we learn about not taking anonymous sources to heart?

I am still confused: so they are making/planning a new games console?

Like, a year after the WiiU launched?

I know that manufacturers like to think ahead, but this seems way too soon.

 

[Dragonbums]

Wait what?

...They already have a next gen console?

WHAT?

WHAT IS HAPPENING?

HAS SATORU IWATA IMPLODED UPON HIMSELF?

WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING?

WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS FUSION THING? ALL THEY NEED IS BETTER MARKETING AND MOAR GARMS.

Seriously, what? I do not know what to make of this.

Don't be surprised. Honestly all three manufacturers start planning for new consoles the moment they release their next gen console (and if not immediate a year or so later) from there it's all a guessing game on what their competitors might implement, how much power they are going to use, etc. etc.

As everyone else has stated though, these specs seem to be a load of ass. I'm also highly doubtful that something that leaked this early. Especially from Nintendo.

Didn't we learn about not taking anonymous sources to heart?

I am still confused: so they are making/planning a new games console?

Like, a year after the WiiU launched?

I know that manufacturers like to think ahead, but this seems way too soon.

It's not. I can bet you $10.00 Sony and Microsoft are planning the same thing right now as well. And keep in mind that the planning of specs can take years to finally conceptualize and work, and then some to get all the parts shipped together for actual production. Not to mention design, marketing, internal architecture, etc.

 

[misg]

I could see a new console in the works from Sony and Microsoft. With the move to x86 backwards comparability will be a much easier issue to address and if the next console works on the same games it's going to start a more fluid move of console generations. Could be interesting, just have to wait and see.