Rumor: Valve's E3 Surprise is Source 2, Maybe Half-Life 3

[DigitalSushi]

i was thinking about this today during an exam, probably not the best time,

Depends, what exam was it?

If it was an exam at MIT for theoretical physics with extra curriculum activities such as pushing a crystal into something, then thinking about Half Life would be perfect.

 

[L33tMarvin]

Hmm Left 4 Dead 3:Bill's Revenge,Opposing Force 2,and Day of Defeat 2:Reach

 

[LWS666]

they wouldn't release a new source engine if their flag ship is sinking (i mean HL series ending in one 6 hour episode) so if they reveal source 2 then i'd expect a HL3.

Gabe Newell, if you're reading this i will give you my first born if you do that

 

[The Bandit]

If they wont show EP 3 why would they show HL 3?

Well, presumably the thought here is that they realized EP3 was taking too long so decided to expand on it and turn it into a full-fledged game, and the lack of information about EP3 was just designed to conceal this. So when Gabe Newell says "There won't be anything on Episode 3 this year" it's technically true, because they're making HL3.




That's not to say it's TRUE, or that they aren't pipe dreams. But I think that's the interpretation.

What people seem to forget is that this is Valve. You know, those guys that took six years to make Half-Life 2.

If they had been working on Half-Life 3 with an updated Source engine since 2004, then yes. The rumor has much more appeal. But, they haven't. They specifically planned three episodes for Half-Life 2. The only Half-Life 3 they could have been working on is a Half-Life 3 that takes place after Episode 3.

So, here's what people are hoping: Since 2004, Valve has been working on HL3 (presumably with Super Source). After 2007 they realize Episode 3 is taking too long (it would actually make more sense for this to happen after 2008, but I'll be nice and throw you guys a bone). So, between 2007 and now, they scrap the crux of their HL3 plans and decide to integrate Episode 3 into HL3. These are two games with apparently different engines. And now, after doing all that, they're somehow ready to announce it just two and a half years later.

No. That's just insane.

Then again, Valve did release L4D2 in a year, so who knows? Maybe we're already living in the Twilight Zone.

 

[uppitycracker]

Source 2 makes sense. The source engine could CERTAINLY use an overhaul. I can see a lot of people being quite disappointed, but I'd welcome this. My money is still on L4D2: Episode 1.

 

[Brainst0rm]

I always had my suspicions about this Portal 2 business. It came off as a stunt, made all the more bizarre by how quickly the obscure hints were outed. Nerds take for granted how nerdy they are, I suppose. But more importantly, it came off as a premature stunt, seeing as virtually nothing about the game was revealed.

But we'll see. HL3 would certainly compel me to get through HL2...maybe...ehhh. I'm just not super-hyped about getting back into the fan-boat thing. Plus the alien face muncher jumping into the teleporter is high on my list of WORST PLOT DEVICES EVER.

*cough* but, um, yay Valve!

 

[ben---neb]

Must not get excited, must not excited, must not...too late.

 

[Marik2]

Hmm, it would be sexy to see...SUPER SOURCE in action. Still, I'd really like some info on Episode 3 a lot more, but didn't they say they wanted to make HL3 basically what Episode 3 was supposed to be anyways? ;O

Well hopefully Super Source will look like this.

 

[Corven]

Just you watch it's going to be the Engie Update.

 

[Tom Phoenix]

If they wont show EP 3 why would they show HL 3?

Well, presumably the thought here is that they realized EP3 was taking too long so decided to expand on it and turn it into a full-fledged game, and the lack of information about EP3 was just designed to conceal this. So when Gabe Newell says "There won't be anything on Episode 3 this year" it's technically true, because they're making HL3.




That's not to say it's TRUE, or that they aren't pipe dreams. But I think that's the interpretation.

What people seem to forget is that this is Valve. You know, those guys that took six years to make Half-Life 2.

If they had been working on Half-Life 3 with an updated Source engine since 2004, then yes. The rumor has much more appeal. But, they haven't. They specifically planned three episodes for Half-Life 2. The only Half-Life 3 they could have been working on is a Half-Life 3 that takes place after Episode 3.

So, here's what people are hoping: Since 2004, Valve has been working on HL3 (presumably with Super Source). After 2007 they realize Episode 3 is taking too long (it would actually make more sense for this to happen after 2008, but I'll be nice and throw you guys a bone). So, between 2007 and now, they scrap the crux of their HL3 plans and decide to integrate Episode 3 into HL3. These are two games with apparently different engines. And now, after doing all that, they're somehow ready to announce it just two and a half years later.

No. That's just insane.

Then again, Valve did release L4D2 in a year, so who knows? Maybe we're already living in the Twilight Zone.

The thing is, Newell said that the three HL2 episodes are essentially Half Life 3:

In a recent interview with Eurogamer, Valve revealed that the just-released Half-Life 2: Episode 1 and the forthcoming Episodes 2 and 3 will serve as the third game in the series. Rather than make gamers wait another six-plus years for Half-Life 3, the developer thought people might appreciate playing the game in smaller chunks if they didn't have to wait as long.

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Throughout the interview, Newell refers to the episodes as Half-Life 3, and points out that they aren't considered expansions. Whereas Half-Life was about the G-man grooming Gordon Freeman to be a hero, and 2 was about how the G-man uses his creation, the episodes (Half-Life 3) focus more on the G-man and how he reacts when he loses control of Freeman.

Source: IGN [http://pc.ign.com/articles/711/711560p1.html]

It's an old interview, but it remains Valve's official stance on the matter. Considering this, it is not out of the realm of possibility that they decided to change that philosophy and make a full-fledged third game instead.

 

[Jonny49]

...Please HL3...please HL3...Please HL3!...

...Please HL3 for 360... Please HL3 for 360... Please HL3 for 360!

...Please HL3 for PS3... Please HL3 for PS3... Please HL3 for PS3!

 

[FlashHero]

Im betting it is the engie update..the final meet the team vids..and a official release of source filmmaker..but that is just my bet.

 

[gmer412]

Hmmm... I must say it would make sense with what we know. I doubt HL3 will happen (although I REALLY want it to) there, but source 2 is definitely a good thing in itself. Hell, that alone could be on the level of HL3. Right? Right? Who am I kidding. Why does this week have to be one where I don't have massive homework and so am caught up in constant speculation? 6 days to go until the canceled portal event, so we'll see soon enough.

 

[Marik2]

Where is THAT from? o.o

Found it on a Google search. Its suppose to be a "Perhaps it will look like this" and I'm hoping it will.

 

[The Bandit]

If they wont show EP 3 why would they show HL 3?

Well, presumably the thought here is that they realized EP3 was taking too long so decided to expand on it and turn it into a full-fledged game, and the lack of information about EP3 was just designed to conceal this. So when Gabe Newell says "There won't be anything on Episode 3 this year" it's technically true, because they're making HL3.




That's not to say it's TRUE, or that they aren't pipe dreams. But I think that's the interpretation.

What people seem to forget is that this is Valve. You know, those guys that took six years to make Half-Life 2.

If they had been working on Half-Life 3 with an updated Source engine since 2004, then yes. The rumor has much more appeal. But, they haven't. They specifically planned three episodes for Half-Life 2. The only Half-Life 3 they could have been working on is a Half-Life 3 that takes place after Episode 3.

So, here's what people are hoping: Since 2004, Valve has been working on HL3 (presumably with Super Source). After 2007 they realize Episode 3 is taking too long (it would actually make more sense for this to happen after 2008, but I'll be nice and throw you guys a bone). So, between 2007 and now, they scrap the crux of their HL3 plans and decide to integrate Episode 3 into HL3. These are two games with apparently different engines. And now, after doing all that, they're somehow ready to announce it just two and a half years later.

No. That's just insane.

Then again, Valve did release L4D2 in a year, so who knows? Maybe we're already living in the Twilight Zone.

The thing is, Newell said that the three HL2 episodes are essentially Half Life 3:

In a recent interview with Eurogamer, Valve revealed that the just-released Half-Life 2: Episode 1 and the forthcoming Episodes 2 and 3 will serve as the third game in the series. Rather than make gamers wait another six-plus years for Half-Life 3, the developer thought people might appreciate playing the game in smaller chunks if they didn't have to wait as long.

----------

Throughout the interview, Newell refers to the episodes as Half-Life 3, and points out that they aren't considered expansions. Whereas Half-Life was about the G-man grooming Gordon Freeman to be a hero, and 2 was about how the G-man uses his creation, the episodes (Half-Life 3) focus more on the G-man and how he reacts when he loses control of Freeman.

Source: IGN [http://pc.ign.com/articles/711/711560p1.html]

It's an old interview, but it remains Valve's official stance on the matter. Considering this, it is not out of the realm of possibility that they decided to change that philosophy and make a full-fledged third game instead.

I'm not sure how to respond to this, because I'm not sure how this changes anything at all. Hell, I was already aware that the episodes were Half-Life 3.

 

[Megacherv]

I think that it's going to be called the Ce engine, if that's what's announced

 

[Clueless Hero]

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