This is intresting, i just watched the first one yesterday and wanted to buy it on DVD, as long as Goldbloom is in it, im going to be ok with it!
Rumor: Will Smith Signs On for Independence Day Sequels
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Personally I've always had a vision for an ID4 squeal ever since the first movie came out, set it 20 years in the future, mankind after recovering from the holocaust of the Alien invasion has back engineered a lot of the tech and heads out into space looking for some payback.
Of course I've also got the same vision for that god awful The Day The Earth Stood Still remake, yeah stopping all tech from working (a fact that would end with the horrible deaths of somewhere in the order of 90% of the human race, that's billions btw) would really endear you to us, better watch out alien scum.
Of course I've also got the same vision for that god awful The Day The Earth Stood Still remake, yeah stopping all tech from working (a fact that would end with the horrible deaths of somewhere in the order of 90% of the human race, that's billions btw) would really endear you to us, better watch out alien scum.
Tiamat666 said:
You aren't firmiliar with the term "Make Believe" are you. It's about aliens invading earth, Nobody's impressed at your logical knowledge and it's silly attempt to refute something that is completely fiction. Even attempting to do so is counterproductive and in the end completely masterbatory.
OT: I'll give it a chance, I loved the first one. Granted I was like 13 the first time I saw it. Hopefully they bring back Jeff Goldblum and all the est of the original cast too.
well i saw couploe of days ago at imdb that Will Smith has 27 movie projects incoming........
guy`s gona be seriously busy no? and i already saw the ID sequel...tbh im not sure.
One part of me wants the movie to stay the awesome classic it is right now.
Another part of me wants to see Will bust some alien ass again...hopefully Goldblum will come aswell. But the story rly needs to tick well. At least real time will do just for the the movie i think....been a long time since the first one and now the 2 part of the story unfolds...could be interesting.
And the CGI has improved SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH since then....so i dont know....plenty of stuff to look forward to
guy`s gona be seriously busy no? and i already saw the ID sequel...tbh im not sure.
One part of me wants the movie to stay the awesome classic it is right now.
Another part of me wants to see Will bust some alien ass again...hopefully Goldblum will come aswell. But the story rly needs to tick well. At least real time will do just for the the movie i think....been a long time since the first one and now the 2 part of the story unfolds...could be interesting.
And the CGI has improved SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH since then....so i dont know....plenty of stuff to look forward to
I really enjoyed the original, but I'm not quite sure if another will work. I mean, will the aliens attack on another July 4th? If not, then it probably shouldn't be called Independence Day 2. But, maybe they won't name it that. If it IS being made, that is.
Day After Tomorrow pretty much only affected the area of the earth above the Tropic of Cancer, which is about 66% of the world's density but I would figure only half of that at most was lost.Vitor Goncalves said:
Deep Impact's effect was only to coastal and close elevation cities around the North Atlantic, a much smaller section.
ID4 wiped out every single large city in the world, with most of each country's militaries destroyed. Maybe close the same amount as Day After Tomorrow but there would have been a complete loss of government, economic, and control for quite some time. Remember Jericho? Put that scenario in every country of the world at the same time. Yeah the core people of each were united against the aliens but that would have been shelved in the attempt to pick up the pieces.
As for 2012, every Producer and Director have their flops. Many get redemption when they realize where they erred and make up for it. Roland's in this case was trying to be Oliver Stone for the scifi crowd.
Justin Long will appear on the alien computer screens and shout EPIC FAIL before overloading their mainframe.Scrythe said:We will fight them with the power of Apple!
Maybe in the 2nd one, we'll hack the mothership with an iPhone and in the 3rd with an iPad.
Also,
http://www.cracked.com/article_15229_5-things-hollywood-thinks-computers-can-do_p5.html
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-movies-we-hope-any-potential-alien-invaders-have-seen
Agreed.Silk_Sk said:
I don't really see any need for a sequel, unless the aliens have developed an immunity to the common cold, but then I feel like they'd be super pissed and just decimate our planet from orbit, I mean it's not like we could take the fight to space at all.
Well think of it this way
we use the new alien tech and it takes us into a golden age. The World is unified under the banner of the United States after the courageous last stand that the president and the rest of the fighter pilots took against the aliens and figure it would be best to have a unified front now that we know that we are not alone. We learn that another world similar to earth is under threat by the same aliens that tried to kill us so we take the new earth mothership under command of will smith...and that's all i can think of.
we use the new alien tech and it takes us into a golden age. The World is unified under the banner of the United States after the courageous last stand that the president and the rest of the fighter pilots took against the aliens and figure it would be best to have a unified front now that we know that we are not alone. We learn that another world similar to earth is under threat by the same aliens that tried to kill us so we take the new earth mothership under command of will smith...and that's all i can think of.
Pointless American patriotism? Wow...if an American film studio, starring American actors, make a movie where the sole focus of a crisis is told from a group of characters who are American want to throw in a bunch of Stars & Stripes bad-assery.... they are allowed. And who the fuck are you and anyone else to criticize them for it?Hardcore_gamer said:
If it bothers you so bad then maybe you should write to a Swedish, British, or Romanian film maker to portray the struggles of their country and how they fought the aliens off while the Americans were off doing their part of the story.
People that talk shit about Americans making movies that are just too "Americanized" are just jealous and rather pathetic. You don't see that many Americans on this website talking shit about a certain film because it's was just too Frenchy, or Jewy, or British. If you really have a problem with the way American film makers portray themselves then maybe you and all the people who have a problem with them should stop watching the movies, earning them money, and making American entertainment the #1 entertainment producers in the world.
And for a movie that is riddled with pointless American patriotism... It was directed by a German.
quiet_samurai said:
Make believe... exactly! If I'm watching a war movie, I don't want to see cows with mounted rocketlaunchers. I want to see some believable military equipment, not the Warcattle Regiment of Fiery Doom. Not even if its a fictional movie. Why? Because cows with mounted rocketlaunchers is fucking ridiculous, just like those scenes in ID I mentioned.
Holy shit. You just nailed it right there. Suddenly all of the movie makes perfect sense.Calatar said:Must've used java. I hear it's platform-independent.Tiamat666 said:
That's because americans are the only ones taking their patriotism to such cheesy extremes. I'm okay with some patriotism, patriotism is fine... but please, that speech by the end in the movie, and then having the US President himself step into the fight against the aliens... give me a break.quiet_samurai said:
It was a long time ago since I saw Independence Day. Though if I remember correctly I honestly didn't find much interest in it. The combination of characters was good, along with the special effects and with a story that didn't need to be overly complicated to be enjoyable. Though to me the overall execution of it just seemed a bit... Cliche. The major focus seemed to be on people managing to do heroic acts in order to save the day. A fighter making a kamikaze run with a nuclear bomb attached to it flying into the center of an alien ship that conviniently causes the whole ship to be destroyed, along with two other people flying a hijacked alien fighter into the very mothership of the alien armada. There they also conviniently manages to sneak past all of the alien defenses beacuse security checks are a conviniently abscent practice among extra-terrestials. This results in them being able to fire off another nuclear bomb into some sort of hangar area which's destruction causes the whole mothership to be conviniently destroyed.
In short. I found the movie to just throw in cheap excuses for a happy ending near non-stop. Infact, it would be more interesting getting to know a bit more of the aliens. From what I understand their entire civilization seems to be based in space travel in order to find resources to survive. I got the idea that the aliens are struggling to survive just as much as the Humans do. Concepts like these could add alot of interesting depth and go beyond the childish "Good vs. Bad" plot.
But no... They disregarded them as being like demonic locusts that enjoy watching civilizations crumble. I don't like quoting, but this fits all very well to Yathzee's description of Humanity stealing spotlight beacuse of... Well, racism technically.
I get rather frustrated when potentionally enthralling concepts and ideas gets dumbed down into an uncreative mixture of special effects and cheap thrills.
In short. I found the movie to just throw in cheap excuses for a happy ending near non-stop. Infact, it would be more interesting getting to know a bit more of the aliens. From what I understand their entire civilization seems to be based in space travel in order to find resources to survive. I got the idea that the aliens are struggling to survive just as much as the Humans do. Concepts like these could add alot of interesting depth and go beyond the childish "Good vs. Bad" plot.
But no... They disregarded them as being like demonic locusts that enjoy watching civilizations crumble. I don't like quoting, but this fits all very well to Yathzee's description of Humanity stealing spotlight beacuse of... Well, racism technically.
I get rather frustrated when potentionally enthralling concepts and ideas gets dumbed down into an uncreative mixture of special effects and cheap thrills.