Wait so one of the main developers of Diablo 1 and 2 made one of the worst Diablo clones ever seen? I didn't expect that.
Runic Games: Torchlight 3 Might Ship Before Diablo 3
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About every review of the game thus far. And, from personal experience. I won't put out spoilers, but the ending parts were foreseeable from the first 5 minutes of the game, and the rest was just cheesy rip-offs and corny story cliches.dochmbi said:
Except Blizzard has two seperate teams working on WoW and Diablo III, so that argument doesn't hold water.Liquidcathedral said:
Anyway, I am not sure why Schaefer is emphasising that his development team is small, given that Blizzard also relies on smaller development teams. The StarCraft II team, for example, consists of about 40 people and I doubt the Diablo III team is any more numerous.
Onto the main topic, I don't understand why Schaefer thinks that Blizzard would want to recreate the first Torchlight to begin with. Diablo III has been substantially larger in size and scope ever since it's inception, so it's not like they were aiming for something like that.
It'll be hard as hell for blizz to catch up Torchlight, I consider Torchlight much better and funnier than Diablo 2, although it doesn't have a story as good, it's just way funnier than the Diablos.
As amazing as a Torchlight 3 would be, I'm still waiting for the MMO to happen... that, or make Torchlight 2 & 3 amazingly HUGE and epic... and add a great multiplayer to them.
Although, Blizz is known to make amazing games, as long as they take to come out, they always blows up the water with their titles... I may end up waiting for Diablo 3 and the Torchlight MMO instead of the Torchlights 2 & 3.
As amazing as a Torchlight 3 would be, I'm still waiting for the MMO to happen... that, or make Torchlight 2 & 3 amazingly HUGE and epic... and add a great multiplayer to them.
Although, Blizz is known to make amazing games, as long as they take to come out, they always blows up the water with their titles... I may end up waiting for Diablo 3 and the Torchlight MMO instead of the Torchlights 2 & 3.
How exactly did I prove your argument right? There are seperate teams developing World of WarCraft and Diablo III. That means that the development of WoW content has no bearing on how fast or slow Diablo III is being developed, which goes against what you implied in your original post.Liquidcathedral said:
Also, StarCraft II's development didn't take 12 years. Infact, they only started laying the foundations for the game in 2003, after the release of the Frozen Throne expansion pack. Even then, however, proper development didn't really kick off until 2005.
As for the state of SC2's multiplayer. While there certainly are imbalances in the game currently, that was to be expected. Afterall, no matter how well you polish the game, the true balancing process only starts once you release the game to the public and they use this to try and break the game.
Either way, however, it is still a lot more balanced than it's predecessor was at this stage of it's life cycle. But just like the original StarCraft required patching to get the balance right, so will the sequel.
I won't argue that WoW does slow down other Blizzard projects, but bare in mind Blizzard has always taken a long time with their games even before WoW. I still remember, "Diablo II coming in 1998!" then, "Diablo II, coming in 1999!!" and finally in 2000 we get Diablo II. And lets not forget Operation CWAL for StarCraft, no not the cheat code, the online group who was tired of waiting so long for the game.Liquidcathedral said:
Games take longer to make these days than ever. Think about how long it takes for the average first person shooter to get released these days, and I do mean average shooters.
Like I said though, I'm not disputing the fact that Blizzard still has a huge focus on WoW. Can't blame them though, I mean it's so incredibly profitable for them, why should they take away focus from it?
Why the fuck would he have a reason to be bitter? He and half of Blizzard North left Blizzard, he didn't got fired or something. Though I'd sure as hell be bittered about making such a stupid decision if you refer to that...oranger said:
And no thanks, I neither want Torchlight 1.2 nor Torchlight 1.3
As others said already. Quality >>>>>>>>>>> quantity. Oh and boy did Torchlight have a low quality. Lore, story, balance and many gameplay design choices left me with a lot to desire.
It's pretty pathetic to see them not doing anything new, that works, at all. They kept the shitty potion system, the shitty Portal system, the shitty mass useless item drop system and what did they add? A, duo to anyways broken balance, pointless Pet system. But yeah, at least the Pet helped a bit with the exaggerated high drop ratio of items ._.
Yeah the came is cheap, in price and experience.
Contrary to popular belief, merely throwing money/personnel at a given game won't necessarily speed development up. The very nature of WoW requires a much bigger team than Diablo does. If Blizzard moved its entire WoW development staff (not counting customer support, which makes up the bulk of the WoW payroll) onto Diablo III, it probably wouldn't speed things up by much if at all.Liquidcathedral said:
That said, I know Blizzard's art department is pretty fluid and works on all of their games, and they do rotate developers in and out of teams to get fresh perspectives.
