Rush Limbaugh Defends Video Game Free Speech

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lacktheknack

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HankMan said:
lacktheknack said:
HankMan said:
archvile93 said:
What did ou expect? Liberals are the ones that like to have the government tell you how to live your life, not republicans.
Yeah that whole CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT TO BAN GAY MARRIAGE and that IF YOU ARE NOT WITH US YOU ARE WITH THE TERRORISTS bit were soooooooooooooooooo part of the liberal agenda.
The more shameless Liberals wanted everyone to believe they actually said this, yes.
So you're saying George Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney and Fox News are actually liberal?
And JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR: I KNOW Cheney doesn't support the amendment thing.
Find me anything that says (WITH CONTEXT) anything about "non-conservatives are terrorists", and I'll concede. Until then, I'm sure you're using hyperbole.
 

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I disagree with some of his views, but in this regard, me and him are on the same side.
 

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Woodsey said:
I'll never understand why a political group who wants the government to be as uninvolved with the public's lives as possible constantly demands the government to outlaw and restrict things.
Hate to break it to ya but liberals are just as guilty of that. Just sayin...
 

lacktheknack

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archvile93 said:
What did ou expect? Liberals are the ones that like to have the government tell you how to live your life, not republicans.
I lol'd. I suppose the Patriot Act was enacted to give us MORE freedom, then?
Because the Patriot Act banned various unhealthy substances, added curfews, disallowed communications between different groups, and - wait.

Not related.
 

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Ha. Being an objectivist I like Limbaugh and Beck, but what I dont like is them trying to shove religion down my throat. I think its funny how you guys see Us right wingers as nut jobs. Bent on stopping anything we dont agree with. That we should make people more "decent"
I believe man can do what ever he wants as long as he doesnt physicaly harm another, say what ever he feels, express him self in any form.Right wingers like us, we dont want less speech and freedom-we want more of it. I want the nancy pelosi's of the world to stop trying to force us by law to be politically correct. Righ wingers like Limbaugh and me we want every to be free to do as they feel.
 

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Xzi said:
archvile93 said:
What did ou expect? Liberals are the ones that like to have the government tell you how to live your life, not republicans.
I lol'd. I suppose the Patriot Act was enacted to give us MORE freedom, then? Clearly tapping everyone's phone was just an innocent prank.
"The Act was passed by wide margins in both houses of Congress and was supported by members of both the Republican and Democratic parties."

"In July 2005, the U.S. Senate passed a reauthorization bill with substantial changes to several sections of the act, while the House reauthorization bill kept most of the act's original language. The two bills were then reconciled in a conference committee that was criticized by Senators from both the Republican and Democratic parties for ignoring civil liberty concerns."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_PATRIOT_Act
 

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What I don't get is all those American conservatives (Limbaugh included) who seem to think that the constitution says that if you're not an American citizen you don't have any rights within America (thus giving them justification for treating foreign terrorist suspects like shit, etc.). Bullshit, the constitution says PEOPLE, not CITIZENS. Jesus people, at least read the damn constitution before you start to 'defend' it, I'm Canadian and I know more about it then you do.
It reads "We the People of the United States", in an age where "citizenship" was applied to individual states, whose entire citizenry was collectivelly reffered to "the United States People".

Meaning that, in fact, "People" means "Citizens" in the U.S. Costitution.

I'm nether a U.S. American nor Canadian, but I know more about their Constitution than you do, apparently. Besides that, Canada's Immigration laws are strictier than in the U.S. You should know that.
Unfortunately you are incorrect about the original content. The Founding Fathers wished for America to be an example to the rest of the world, to show that their society was one of liberty and freedom (all this was, of course, in theory). The American Constitution served as a document of a new kind of political thought grounded in the logic of liberal thinkers like John Locke. Locke's concept of 'natural rights', that every person has a core set of inalienable rights as set forth by God was a huge part of the American political movement during the Revolution, and continued after when they were making the Constitution. The Constitution says people and means it, 'we the people' is used, but citizenship wasn't defined in the Constitution until the Fourteenth Amendment I believe. Yet the document states people, as can be seen in this youtube video by a member of the American Civil Liberties Union (who, I think we can safely say, has more knowledge on the subject them both of us combined):

(Skip to 1:15 for the part of the Constitution that defines citizens and recognizes the natural rights of 'people')


Sir John the Net Knight said:
Blind Sight said:
What I don't get is all those American conservatives (Limbaugh included) who seem to think that the constitution says that if you're not an American citizen you don't have any rights within America (thus giving them justification for treating foreign terrorist suspects like shit, etc.). Bullshit, the constitution says PEOPLE, not CITIZENS. Jesus people, at least read the damn constitution before you start to 'defend' it, I'm Canadian and I know more about it then you do.
Non-citizens in America have more rights than they do in any other country in the world. If you don't believe me, get arrested in a country where you're not a citizen.
Indeed, and I didn't say that wasn't the case, what I said is that there is a series of conservatives in the United States who, through ignorance, feel that the United States Constitution doesn't recognize the rights of any non-American person. That youtube video I posted above has a good example of Sarah Palin, and Limbaugh himself said this on Abu Ghraib:

"This is no different than what happens at the Skull and Bones initiation ... And we're going to ruin people's lives over it and we're going to hamper our military effort, and then we are going to really hammer them because they had a good time. You know, these people are being fired at every day [referring to the U.S. Military service members]. I'm talking about people having a good time, these people, you ever heard of emotional release?"

Basically, this people, specifically, don't recognize the rights of foreign nationals, even though the Constitution says that PEOPLE in general have a right to a fair public trial and all the legal rights that protect U.S. citizens. It's just stupid politics attempting to deal with a current problem, on a whole the United States is fairly good with non-citizens.
 

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Oh and even though im a right wing kinda guy, the patriot act was a travesty.
Politicians need to stop doing things the constitution tells them they cant do just because theyre in power
 

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-Zen- said:
1. Democrat has never meant 'for rights'. Examples: FCC. Prohibition. Arguable: Health care bill.
2. Republican has never meant 'for rights'. Examples: Patriot act.
That is, unless you mean the Civil Rights Act, which was voted for mainly by Republicans and a few Democrats who had the balls to go against their hard-line party? Just goes to show you how much things change...
 

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HankMan said:
lacktheknack said:
HankMan said:
archvile93 said:
What did ou expect? Liberals are the ones that like to have the government tell you how to live your life, not republicans.
Yeah that whole CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT TO BAN GAY MARRIAGE and that IF YOU ARE NOT WITH US YOU ARE WITH THE TERRORISTS bit were soooooooooooooooooo part of the liberal agenda.
The more shameless Liberals wanted everyone to believe they actually said this, yes.
So you're saying George Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney and Fox News are actually liberal?
And JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR: I KNOW Cheney doesn't support the amendment thing.
No, you're thinking of severe right-wing pyschopath republicans that the rest of us republicans don't like to aknowledge the existance of.
 

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Xzi said:
lacktheknack said:
Xzi said:
archvile93 said:
What did ou expect? Liberals are the ones that like to have the government tell you how to live your life, not republicans.
I lol'd. I suppose the Patriot Act was enacted to give us MORE freedom, then?
Because the Patriot Act banned various unhealthy substances, added curfews, disallowed communications between different groups, and - wait.

Not related.
You kinda left out some stuff. You know, like rendition and phone tapping. Just minor infringements on our rights...
It still has NOTHING to do with "telling us how to live our lives".
 

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Xzi said:
archvile93 said:
What did ou expect? Liberals are the ones that like to have the government tell you how to live your life, not republicans.
I lol'd. I suppose the Patriot Act was enacted to give us MORE freedom, then? Clearly tapping everyone's phone was just an innocent prank.
For the last time, I don't recall ever saying republicans never try to give government more power, but don't even try to tell me that it's not democrats that usually do.
 

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So...he made sense once? Okay, maybe not once, but you get my drift.

That to me is hipocrisy. Why then does he agree with HMO's getting between you and your doctor wher ethey can shuffle you around 'till you end up with one that racks up your bills even more, or even in the whole "ground Zero Mosque" thing where it is okay to get between people's right to own property under the guise of "It's not the wise thing to do"? Hell, he doesn't even agree that healthcare is a human right.

If he comes out one day saying "I'm against drinking acid" does not mean he gets my props.

In short: fuck him.
 

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He's right, you know.

This is a man that always manages to conflict me. I agree with about 50% of what he says, and disagree with the other 50%.
This is because you have a brain and know how to use it, not only that but you're pretty good at using it too. I'd like to say the same of the people who are clogging my home town of DC right now, but I cannot.

As a conservative who actually challenges some of the stuff that Limbaugh says on his radio program (yes, I listen), I can say that this gives me some reassurance. He consistently goes against the 'Liberal Bias in the media', it only makes sense that he'd go against the lunacy of restricting 1st Amendment rights for video games, just because they're a little too graphic or violent. He's always had the point of letting parents decide what their eight-year-old should buy rather than the government.

It's nice to have kids man up and admit when someone they normally are told to disagree with by friends and comedians.
 

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Xzi said:
archvile93 said:
Xzi said:
archvile93 said:
What did ou expect? Liberals are the ones that like to have the government tell you how to live your life, not republicans.
I lol'd. I suppose the Patriot Act was enacted to give us MORE freedom, then? Clearly tapping everyone's phone was just an innocent prank.
For the last time, I don't recall ever saying republicans never try to give government more power, but don't even try to tell me that it's not democrats that usually do.
Of course I wouldn't say that. But government having more power isn't necessarily a bad thing as long as that power is used for good. I'm neither a Democrat nor a Republican, but hindsight is twenty-twenty, and looking back on it, I'd gladly take Bill Clinton in office for another three terms rather than what we got, wouldn't you? He left office with a government surplus on the table, and Bush turned it into a huge debt with a failing economy.
Your right, I'll just do what Clinton did to pay off my debts from now on. I get another loan and use to pay off the old one.
 

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This is ridiculous.

Anyone who is saying that they are surprised by this doesn't have enough education on politics (specifically Rush's stance on them) to claim an opinion.

The Government runs two aspects of our lives, Fiscal, and Social. Rush has a clear Conservative(read: less Government) view on both aspects.

Free speech is a Social issue, and therefore Rush wants less Gov. restriction on it.


THIS IS NOT UNEXPECTED HE WAS ALWAYS ON YOUR SIDE! (for this issue at least)