You're right, I do live a very sheltered life. But I still think that they might have had more of a chance if he didn't have a gun.FelixG said:
Russia Considers Crackdown on Violent Games
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Problem solving 101: Never ever ever EVER address the true cause of the problem. It's always the symptoms that are at fault!
ah, the typical cheap excuse for politicians to solve a problem that has no connection what so ever. and then they wonder why it still doesnt stop.
im really curious: what if one country doesnt show any kind of violent movies or games, only harmless dramas and comedies, and someone kills few people, will they still blame games and movies for it???
seriously. who the hell puts these idiots in charge to say that games are bad???
im really curious: what if one country doesnt show any kind of violent movies or games, only harmless dramas and comedies, and someone kills few people, will they still blame games and movies for it???
seriously. who the hell puts these idiots in charge to say that games are bad???
you are all wrong, I have killed 15 people with video games, by stabbing them with the game disks! Video games are violent and cause violence!
so once a week they could make news with going to university/school/theater/cafeterial/insrtyourplacehere and shootign the shit out of everyone they hate.CardinalPiggles said:
instead of attacking games they shoudl rather attack the problem that caused him to attack them. very likely, knowing its russia, the coworkers have endlessly laughed at him after the girl said now, possibly the girl too.
when i meet such people i want to kill them too, but im too selfish
As well as crazy people with murderous tendencies. People like that kid who recently shot and killed 6 people because a girl rejected his advances. Or that Norwegian bloke who shot and killed about 70 people, mainly kids!barbzilla said:
Owning guns for the sake of owning guns is ridiculous. I bet this guy didn't have land or keep farm animals.
They'd probably blame terrorists or piracy, or piracy terrorists, or terracy as the cool kids call it.Metalrocks said:
*sighs*
I can see the right wing in Moscow reading up on this and going "Quick! This is our chance to make a huge dent in the ranks of people who still think Russia's a democracy! Let's take one instance and instigate a ban on all violent games because of it! Our voter base will love us for it, the complacent masses will get in on the action, Putin's going to be glad because we suppressed another poor schmuck as excessively as possible!
We cannot lose from this!"
Can someone get some plane tickets to Jack Thompson, all expenses paid? He'd make a killing over there, I'm sure.
I can see the right wing in Moscow reading up on this and going "Quick! This is our chance to make a huge dent in the ranks of people who still think Russia's a democracy! Let's take one instance and instigate a ban on all violent games because of it! Our voter base will love us for it, the complacent masses will get in on the action, Putin's going to be glad because we suppressed another poor schmuck as excessively as possible!
We cannot lose from this!"
Can someone get some plane tickets to Jack Thompson, all expenses paid? He'd make a killing over there, I'm sure.
Irony is that it was probably a pirated copy, obtained outside of any state sanctioned distributors. That's an assumption that could well be wrong, but:
1) Software piracy is, compared to the general west, extremely prevalent in eastern europe.
2) It's reasonable to speculate a guy angry and disconnected enough to kill a bunch of people in frustration might not feel too much guilt knocking off a illegitimate copy of a sleazy horror game from a big developer.
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Anyway, disheartening story, sad and pointless. Videogames not to blame, but understand people's anger. I guess the silver lining is that he was quickly stopped and is now detained. Russian prisons are not nice.
1) Software piracy is, compared to the general west, extremely prevalent in eastern europe.
2) It's reasonable to speculate a guy angry and disconnected enough to kill a bunch of people in frustration might not feel too much guilt knocking off a illegitimate copy of a sleazy horror game from a big developer.
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Anyway, disheartening story, sad and pointless. Videogames not to blame, but understand people's anger. I guess the silver lining is that he was quickly stopped and is now detained. Russian prisons are not nice.
In Soviet Russia, game hunts you.
No that doesn't work. All the peices are there, I just can't get them right. Anyone got any good ones?
OT: I thought this was going to be more about violent games in general. I could see that happening, they have replaced Nazis as main antagonist and cannon foder in most shooter nowadays.
No that doesn't work. All the peices are there, I just can't get them right. Anyone got any good ones?
OT: I thought this was going to be more about violent games in general. I could see that happening, they have replaced Nazis as main antagonist and cannon foder in most shooter nowadays.
lol, sounds still better then blaming games all the time. but im sure these idiots will find some way to have nonsense excuse why someone would kill anyone.CardinalPiggles said:
Having or not having a gun doesn't change the outcome. There are plenty of instances of mass murders and other heinous crimes in places where guns are banned. The reason behind this is that even though guns are banned, guns still exist inside of those countries. The issue is, they are all owned by criminals. Even without guns in the entire world, these things would still happen. Do you think they went without mass murders and other violent crimes before gunpowder was invented? The same thing happens to guns as does video games, people blame the guns for the actions of the people.CardinalPiggles said:
I've worked for Law Enforcement in the US, and the majority of violent gun crimes are committed with illegal firearms. The criminals obtain unregistered firearms through black market methods, the same methods they use in countries where guns are banned. So taking away a private citizen's right to own firearms only succeeds in taking away a citizen's firearm. It doesn't take guns out of the hands of the criminals.
Unstable people who go off their rockers and decide to go kill a bunch of people will find a way to do so without firearms if necessary. The same goal can be accomplished using incendiary weapons or explosives, the ingredients of which can be found quite easily (as can the recipes). So instead of being upset at the guns for shooting people, how about being upset at the crazies who kill people.
I hear this argument often enough to know the holes in the logic. Plenty of people get on fine with out guns, and that is fine. I don't have an issue with people not liking guns, and I don't have an issue with countries that ban guns. If that way works for them, more power to them. I, however, will continue owning guns, even if I moved away from the farm and into a city, and I expect it to be no different. With the exception of the firing range, I would probably never have any cause to pull it out of the safe.
A scapegoat for the more actual problem of Russia being an oppressive place to live. Blame the games, it doesn't make the problem any better.