Russian Nazis...?

Pumpkin_Eater

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The term nazi is derived from the German word for nationalist. Nationalism is alive and well in most parts of the world today and many of its supporters identify with Hitler and the Third Reich because they share a similar ideology.
 
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Lukie said:
Yes millions of Russians did die because of communism! They made a race law that if you critised the Jew you would be sentenced to death! The reason this law was pasted is because the Jew basically wormed there way into the political system is was something like 197 Jews in power of a possible 213 positions.

All these communist leaders were Jewish; Starling, Lenin , Trotski , Marx ALL OF THEM.

So you must forgive the Russians for not wanting more foreign entities in there land.

Feel free to call me an anti-Semite all I am doing is stating fact.

If you want to talk about racism The Jewish population is the most ethnocentric of the bunch.

Israel wants exactly the same as what hitler wanted.
Shut the hell up troll.
 

Lukie

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No I will not and I am not a troll, look up what I have stated see if I am lying.
 

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PedroSteckecilo said:
Not to mention the Nazi's planned on making the Russians glorified slaves once they beat them.
Well Hitler wanted an alliance with Russia at one point, is communism much different to slavery anyways?
 

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Maybe you mean Nashi? A sort of anti-fascist youth movement that involves beating Jews and non-russians? A government supported organization?
 

Rooster Cogburn

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No I will not and I am not a troll, look up what I have stated see if I am lying.
I'm willing to be fair even though your opinion is unconventional, but it's considered a courtesy to post links to facts you intend to assert.
 

PedroSteckecilo

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Lukie said:
PedroSteckecilo said:
Not to mention the Nazi's planned on making the Russians glorified slaves once they beat them.
Well Hitler wanted an alliance with Russia at one point, is communism much different to slavery anyways?
I thought it was something along the lines of "Alliance, why have an alliance! I'll steam roll you and make you work for me for free!"
 

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Well, there are plenty of American and British Neo-Nazis, too, it doesn't have to make sense.
After all, we're talking about Neo-Nazis here.
 

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Neo-Nazis are everywhere. I agree that the idea of Russian Nazis is slightly more odd, considering how fanatically patriotically Russia thinks (or atleast thought) of World War 2 (I believe WW2 is known as the Great Patriotic War over there, so that gives you a pretty good idea of things).

But hey, if there can be Neo-Nazis in Israel, there can be Neo-Nazis in Russia. And yes, there are Neo-Nazis in Israel. I had trouble believing it myself, and only found out about it when an Israeli told me in that "ask an Israeli" thread (though that wasn't what it was called).

I think it was an Israeli that told me that. Someone did.
 

Lukie

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Rooster Cogburn said:
Lukie said:
No I will not and I am not a troll, look up what I have stated see if I am lying.
I'm willing to be fair even though your opinion is unconventional, but it's considered a courtesy to post links to facts you intend to assert.
Thank you for being curtious,I will go though my reasearch and back it up.. watch this space.
 

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Most countries have people who disagree with immigration, and there country changing to something foreign. Soemthing they beleive wrong, This feeling called Nazism a lot, but really it's just Nationalism, they are not the same thing. But are usually classed together, is a base human feeling for wanting to belonging to a tribe, it unfortunatley can lead on to violence in some people, usaually less well off people who need someone to blame for their problems.
 
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Lukie said:
No I will not and I am not a troll, look up what I have stated see if I am lying.
Of course you are, you just stated tha communism is a Zionist byproduct and Stalin, Lenin and Trotsky were all communists.

So, what other communist leaders are jewish, Fidel Castro? Mao?
 

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Pumpkin_Eater said:
The term nazi is derived from the German word for nationalist. Nationalism is alive and well in most parts of the world today and many of its supporters identify with Hitler and the Third Reich because they share a similar ideology.
Well, the german word for national socialist, to be exact. Sorry to be a nuisance.

To answer the OP, national socialism doesn't have to be connected to nazi germany, although Hitler invented the ideology. Most national socialists look up to him, of course, but still.

To some extend, it's like that you can agree with an ideology without being afilliated with a party that promotes it.

Also, I think that most neo-nazi Russians didn't live during the war and don't phantom what horrors the nazi party did upon the world, and Russia in particuliar.
 
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Gormourn said:
Actually, if you think about it, there aren't many openly religious people either... and since like 99% of everyone in Russia are white and of Slavic heritage... it's kind of pointless. Perhaps I just don't understand what the neo-nazis stand for. But in Russia, pretty much everyone is white and of mostly the same nationality/religion/lack of thereof.

So... yeah.
Most of the hate is directed either towards immigrants from the Caucasian region or muslims from the Central-asian republics.
 

Lukie

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Gormourn said:
Lukie said:
PedroSteckecilo said:
Not to mention the Nazi's planned on making the Russians glorified slaves once they beat them.
Well Hitler wanted an alliance with Russia at one point, is communism much different to slavery anyways?
Um. You people clearly don't know much about communism. Neither fashism nor communism are anywhere near slavery. Communism = literally every business is controlled by the government, people who have negative opinion about government are generally silenced, so free speech kind of sucks, and everyone is supposed to get the same stuff no matter what they do. It didn't work well in Russia because of massive corruption at higher levels, plus the whole idea that someone doing menial brute labour getting as much if not more then a scientist with 20 years of education behind his shoulders is pretty bad...In any way, I personally doubt that it could work in any large groups, ever.

And fashism, it's pretty much similar. Government controls most businesses, free speech suchs and people going against the government are silenced, etc.

So yeah, communism, even in such fucked up form as it was in USSR, was not slavery. People got considerable food and resources, even though quite scarce most of the time, and they were paid for their jobs, even though quite little.

That doesn't quite fit with my definition of slavery. There were not (all) doing brute menial work, they were not forced to work all day and night, they had holidays, they were payed even though money wasn't very useful in days of USSR, etc.

Slaves generally don't get so much.
Sorry I disagree

slavery = You become a slave to the state