Russian Nazis...?

[Lukie]

No I will not and I am not a troll, look up what I have stated see if I am lying.

Of course you are, you just stated tha communism is a Zionist byproduct and Stalin, Lenin and Trotsky were all communists.

So, what other communist leaders are jewish, Fidel Castro? Mao?

I never said communism is a zionist by product, you did.
I am talking about in Russia not the rest of the world.

Stalin ,Lenin and trotsky were communists.

 

[The Infamous Scamola]

I never said communism is a zionist by product, you did.
I am talking about in Russia not the rest of the world.

Stalin ,Lenin and trotsky were communists.

Of course you did, you just said that all of the Russian communist leaders were Jewish.

Oh and FYI Marx was German.

 

[Jharry5]

A lot of Russians were killed in Nazi concentration camps (3 million, if I remember correctly). Nazi ideology stated that the Russians were 'inferior' to Aryans. Being Communist (the political opposite to Fascism) at the time certainly didn't help Hitler's view on the country and its people as a whole.
The only reason that Neo-Nazi groups have sprung up in Russia - and indeed, all over the world - is through either an ignorance of the effect that the ideology had on the country they say they love so much, or just ignoring that fact and seeing it as a name to give their particular beliefs.

At least, that's how I see it.

 

[nuckpang]

Yes millions of Russians did die because of communism! They made a race law that if you critised the Jew you would be sentenced to death! The reason this law was pasted is because the Jew basically wormed there way into the political system is was something like 197 Jews in power of a possible 213 positions.

All these communist leaders were Jewish; Starling, Lenin , Trotski , Marx ALL OF THEM.

So you must forgive the Russians for not wanting more foreign entities in there land.

Feel free to call me an anti-Semite all I am doing is stating fact.

If you want to talk about racism The Jewish population is the most ethnocentric of the bunch.

Israel wants exactly the same as what hitler wanted.

Okay, you're an anti-semite.

In addition to being an anti-semite you're also a troll and/or complete moron. Stalin was raised Georgian Orthodox and attended a seminary before becoming an athiest. Lenin was baptised into the Russian Orthodox church. Marx and Trotski were ethnically Jewish but Marx became a Lutheran and Trotski was an atheist. You fail at reality. Have a nice day.

 

[Lukie]

I never said communism is a zionist by product, you did.
I am talking about in Russia not the rest of the world.

Stalin ,Lenin and trotsky were communists.

Of course you did, you just said that all of the Russian communist leaders were Jewish.

Oh and FYI Marx was German.

Yes I said that all the communist leaders were Jewish please explain to me, What you stated makes it a zionist by product??

Oh FYI Marx Was Jewish also, he was so Jewish infact that his father was a Talmudic scholar.

 

[Danzaivar]

Israel wants exactly the same as what hitler wanted.

They should stop spending so much on defence then, and just let Iran and the like develop their nuclear weapons. They could implement one of the Nazi policies pretty damn quick...

 

[jymkata]

Didn't Superman fight the Commu-Nazis?

 

[The Infamous Scamola]

Yes I said that all the communist leaders were Jewish please explain to me, What you stated makes it a zionist by product??

Oh FYI Marx Was Jewish also, he was so Jewish infact that his father was a Talmudic scholar.

Ok mister smart man, you give me right know a link that prooves what you're saying.

 

[new_age_reject]

I must just post here that the use of the term 'Skin Head' is silly.
There are skin heads that are not Nazi's ^_^

 

[aiusepsi]

The hell? Karl Marx didn't like Jews or what he percieved as Jewish culture:

From "On The Jewish Question?"
"What is the secular basis of Judaism? Practical need, selfishness. What is the secular cult of the Jew? Haggling. What is his secular god? Money. Well then, an emancipation from haggling and money, from practical, real Judaism would be the self emancipation of our age."

The idea of Communism presented here, that the state owns all businesses, is also a gross misrepresentation of the idea.

The central thesis of Communism is the abolition of private property, and appropriation of the means of production by the workers themselves. One of the key difficulties Marx was trying to fix was the alientation of man from his labour - that a man's work was owned by a capitalist, and then the man was paid a wage from doing it. By collectively owning the means of production, a man would no longer be alienated from his labour.

As it says in the Wikipedia article on Communism: "Communism is a socioeconomic structure and political ideology that promotes the establishment of an egalitarian, classless, stateless society based on common ownership and control of the means of production and property in general."

Note stateless - no government. It's a hopelessly utopian idea, but let's not mischaracterise the idea by the ham-fisted, opressive systems people set up in its name.

 

[Specter_]

Just to point out that skin heads weren't originally nazis,they were recruited and brainwashed by nazis. It's vague and unbelievable but true.

Wrong. Neo-Nazis just assimilated the skinheads style. In fact, there are quite a few radical-left skinhead organisations.

And there will always be SHARP [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skinheads_Against_Racial_Prejudice]

 

[PedroSteckecilo]

Not to mention the Nazi's planned on making the Russians glorified slaves once they beat them.

Well Hitler wanted an alliance with Russia at one point, is communism much different to slavery anyways?

Um. You people clearly don't know much about communism. Neither fashism nor communism are anywhere near slavery. Communism = literally every business is controlled by the government, people who have negative opinion about government are generally silenced, so free speech kind of sucks, and everyone is supposed to get the same stuff no matter what they do. It didn't work well in Russia because of massive corruption at higher levels, plus the whole idea that someone doing menial brute labour getting as much if not more then a scientist with 20 years of education behind his shoulders is pretty bad...In any way, I personally doubt that it could work in any large groups, ever.

And fashism, it's pretty much similar. Government controls most businesses, free speech suchs and people going against the government are silenced, etc.

So yeah, communism, even in such fucked up form as it was in USSR, was not slavery. People got considerable food and resources, even though quite scarce most of the time, and they were paid for their jobs, even though quite little.

That doesn't quite fit with my definition of slavery. There were not (all) doing brute menial work, they were not forced to work all day and night, they had holidays, they were payed even though money wasn't very useful in days of USSR, etc.

Slaves generally don't get so much.

I did actually mean slavery in a litteral sense, as in a source of free labor. It was my understanding that Hitler wanted to turn the Slavs and Russians into an enormous labour pool working for the betterment of Germany, since they were anotehr "inferior racial group" by Nazi standards.

 

[ryai458]

there are groups of nazi type people in all countries even russia then again nazis arent bad (keep reading before spamming me with hate) Hitler took a war torn country with a ruined economy and huge debt and made it into a world power in 10-15 years, unfortnately he was kinda insane and power hungry europe handed large tracks of land to Germany and he still tried to take more if he had waited longer built up his military and not killed 6 mil Jews we (america probably wouldve joined the nazi(as allies not as a socialist group) although maybe not because of England anyway... they are not a bad group just bad leadership, and im sure iv made some mistakes in there feel free to correct me because i did this by memory and didnt do any research mid typing

 

[Agent Larkin]

They are disillusioned racist's who mostly saw there great nation collapse and that can be very demoralising so like in Germany during the Weimar republic they are blaming others for their problems.

 

[PieMaker]

Not to mention the Nazi's planned on making the Russians glorified slaves once they beat them.

Well Hitler wanted an alliance with Russia at one point, is communism much different to slavery anyways?

Depends on what type of communism you're mentioning. As with many other idealisms, there are many different prespectives, like marxism and "trotskism" for example.

 

[C.A.Tsirius]

Russian Nazis aren't TOO surprising, especially when you look closer at the original Nazis. Like any large ideology/political group, they had a number of different factions. Some of them were even communists and their fellow brown shirts would call them "roast beefs", as in brown (Nazi) on the outside and red (Commie) on the inside. After the Soviets whipped their asses the roast beefs kept a low profile. When I first read about them back in "C" school I called them Commie-Nazis, which gave my instructor a good laugh since he thought they sounded like a B movie villain.

 

[Lukie]

Yes millions of Russians did die because of communism! They made a race law that if you critised the Jew you would be sentenced to death! The reason this law was pasted is because the Jew basically wormed there way into the political system is was something like 197 Jews in power of a possible 213 positions.

All these communist leaders were Jewish; Starling, Lenin , Trotski , Marx ALL OF THEM.

So you must forgive the Russians for not wanting more foreign entities in there land.

Feel free to call me an anti-Semite all I am doing is stating fact.

If you want to talk about racism The Jewish population is the most ethnocentric of the bunch.

Israel wants exactly the same as what hitler wanted.

Okay, you're an anti-semite.

In addition to being an anti-semite you're also a troll and/or complete moron. Stalin was raised Georgian Orthodox and attended a seminary before becoming an athiest. Lenin was baptised into the Russian Orthodox church. Marx and Trotski were ethnically Jewish but Marx became a Lutheran and Trotski was an atheist. You fail at reality. Have a nice day.

Ah ha here we go, now we mustn't criticise the Jews that would be anti-Semetic; it's funny that they are virtually the only race you can't critise for there actions you must be pretty badly indoctrinated, your a sheep!

"The name of Stalin -- Djugashvili -- means in Georgian "son of Israelite" because "Djuga" is an Israelite and "Shvili" is a son. The family of Djugashvili were of Christian faith originating from the mountainous Jews of Caucasus converted to Christianity in the beginning of the 19th century." [G.Klimov, Protocols of Soviet Wise Men, p 196, 1981]

and Lenin on his grandfather was Jewish on this Mothers side.

They were all jewish by blood!

 

[Nythi]

Ehrm,

skin heads, ain't that how they were called?

no...there are many different skin heads, right and left wing ideology supporters and also non-political skins

Btw...ever bothered to know what the word, NAZI, means? National socialst

It's like saying there are no communists in the USA or no democrats in Russia

I hate it when people start to talk shit about stuff they have no idea of...

 

[Lukie]

Yes I said that all the communist leaders were Jewish please explain to me, What you stated makes it a zionist by product??

Oh FYI Marx Was Jewish also, he was so Jewish infact that his father was a Talmudic scholar.

Ok mister smart man, you give me right know a link that prooves what you're saying.

here you go buddy http://www.svu2000.org/genealogy/marx-cs.pdf I do have some more stuff, but my file system is a bit crap to say the least happey reading, it's not that long