Russian Nazis...?

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Lukie said:
The infamous SCAMola said:
Lukie said:
Yes I said that all the communist leaders were Jewish please explain to me, What you stated makes it a zionist by product??

Oh FYI Marx Was Jewish also, he was so Jewish infact that his father was a Talmudic scholar.
Ok mister smart man, you give me right know a link that prooves what you're saying.
here you go buddy http://www.svu2000.org/genealogy/marx-cs.pdf I do have some more stuff, but my file system is a bit crap to say the least happey reading, it's not that long :)
Exactly, we all know that Marx was a jew, but what about Stalin and Lenin?
 

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Not all militant racists are necessarily linked to the Nazis, what about Afro-centrists.
 

Lukie

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The infamous SCAMola said:
Lukie said:
The infamous SCAMola said:
Lukie said:
Yes I said that all the communist leaders were Jewish please explain to me, What you stated makes it a zionist by product??

Oh FYI Marx Was Jewish also, he was so Jewish infact that his father was a Talmudic scholar.
Ok mister smart man, you give me right know a link that prooves what you're saying.
here you go buddy http://www.svu2000.org/genealogy/marx-cs.pdf I do have some more stuff, but my file system is a bit crap to say the least happey reading, it's not that long :)
Exactly, we all know that Marx was a jew, but what about Stalin and Lenin?
"The name of Stalin -- Djugashvili -- means in Georgian "son of Israelite" because "Djuga" is an Israelite and "Shvili" is a son. The family of Djugashvili were of Christian faith originating from the mountainous Jews of Caucasus converted to Christianity in the beginning of the 19th century." [G.Klimov, Protocols of Soviet Wise Men, p 196, 1981]

and i'll get the Lenin bits in a second..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenin I know it's a wiki link I presonally don't trust everything I read on there, like I say my filing system is crap I'll see if I can back it further , but tomorrow now I think.
 

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Lukie said:
nuckpang said:
Lukie said:
Yes millions of Russians did die because of communism! They made a race law that if you critised the Jew you would be sentenced to death! The reason this law was pasted is because the Jew basically wormed there way into the political system is was something like 197 Jews in power of a possible 213 positions.

All these communist leaders were Jewish; Starling, Lenin , Trotski , Marx ALL OF THEM.

So you must forgive the Russians for not wanting more foreign entities in there land.

Feel free to call me an anti-Semite all I am doing is stating fact.

If you want to talk about racism The Jewish population is the most ethnocentric of the bunch.

Israel wants exactly the same as what hitler wanted.
Okay, you're an anti-semite.

In addition to being an anti-semite you're also a troll and/or complete moron. Stalin was raised Georgian Orthodox and attended a seminary before becoming an athiest. Lenin was baptised into the Russian Orthodox church. Marx and Trotski were ethnically Jewish but Marx became a Lutheran and Trotski was an atheist. You fail at reality. Have a nice day.
Ah ha here we go, now we mustn't criticise the Jews that would be anti-Semetic; it's funny that they are virtually the only race you can't critise for there actions you must be pretty badly indoctrinated, your a sheep!

"The name of Stalin -- Djugashvili -- means in Georgian "son of Israelite" because "Djuga" is an Israelite and "Shvili" is a son. The family of Djugashvili were of Christian faith originating from the mountainous Jews of Caucasus converted to Christianity in the beginning of the 19th century." [G.Klimov, Protocols of Soviet Wise Men, p 196, 1981]

and Lenin on his grandfather was Jewish on this Mothers side.

They were all jewish by blood!
And you can neither spell nor punctuate.

I have family who live and work in the Gaza strip so trust me, I am not a fan of Israel. However there is a big difference between the nation of Israel and Jews as an ethnic or religious group. You can criticise any group of people that you like, as long as you can back it up with fact and reasoned argument. You seen capable of neither, and just want to spout anti-Jewish hatred. THAT makes you an anti-Semite, not criticising Jews.

At the risk of sounding repetitive, I'll say it again just so I'm clear: You're a moron. Just because some time in the past Stalin's and Lenin's families contained Jewish blood does NOT make them Jewish. If Stalin was such a fan of the Jews, why did he outlaw the religion, burn down synagogues, execute just as many Jews as any other group of people in the purges and order mass arrests of Jewish intellectuals and the suppression of Jewish culture? The answer is simple, whatever religious or racial background he had (which, lest we forget, was not immediately Jewish), it didn't influence his running of the USSR. One last time: You're a moron.

Finally, I've no intention of turning this thread into a flame war, so I'll not be responding to any more of your trolling posts having received this advice:




Have a nice day.
 

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cainx10a said:
ssgt splatter said:
Russian Nazis...? Yeah, I don't get it either.
skin heads, ain't that how they were called?

Remembered a few years ago a few immigrant/international students were murdered in russia, well, not really a good idea to walk the streets at night.
I don't get it...! Is there like a general misconception that all skinheads are racist...? Because they're not.
 

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Lukie said:
Zuljiin said:
This is actually something that has been bugging me for a while. Since it was Hitler's, what, 120th birthday two days ago, I've been hearing about groups of Russian youths beating up on minorities.

I'm not politically correct, but what the hell guys? 23 million Russians died in that war! And the ones who didn't, and are still alive must be really proud.

The reason for this thread would be: Does anyone have any information on this? Because so far, this makes no sence to me.
Yes millions of Russians did die because of communism! They made a race law that if you critised the Jew you would be sentenced to death! The reason this law was pasted is because the Jew basically wormed there way into the political system is was something like 197 Jews in power of a possible 213 positions.

All these communist leaders were Jewish; Starling, Lenin , Trotski , Marx ALL OF THEM.

So you must forgive the Russians for not wanting more foreign entities in there land.

Feel free to call me an anti-Semite all I am doing is stating fact.

If you want to talk about racism The Jewish population is the most ethnocentric of the bunch.

Israel wants exactly the same as what hitler wanted.
In that case I will take you up on your offer. The 'All commies are jews' is ripped straight from Nazi propaganda (vive la Godwin) The Israli occupation of Palestine is fronted by an obscure Jewish sect know as the 'Zionists'. They do not want what Hitler wanted, 'lebensraum' was meerly a front to make his occupations look ever so slightly better and make the rest of the world feel better about ignoring him. Though what is happening in Israel is wrong, it is neither fair nor accurate to relate it to Hitler's 'Third Reich' ideologies.
It also has nothing to do with this topic. But this IS an internet forum.

EDIT: I know this has already been said, I just dislike the tone of your bitching
 

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Gormourn said:
So yeah, communism, even in such fucked up form as it was in USSR, was not slavery. People got considerable food and resources, even though quite scarce most of the time, and they were paid for their jobs, even though quite little.

That doesn't quite fit with my definition of slavery.
Please tell me how this is fundamentally different from Roman/Egyptian slavery.


aiusepsi said:
As it says in the Wikipedia article on Communism: "Communism is a socioeconomic structure and political ideology that promotes the establishment of an egalitarian, classless, stateless society based on common ownership and control of the means of production and property in general."

Note stateless - no government. It's a hopelessly utopian idea, but let's not mischaracterise the idea by the ham-fisted, opressive systems people set up in its name.
Such definition of communism is a paradox as creating a classless society with common ownership requires restrictions by the state or otherwise it will eventually evolve in to capitalism. Therefore it's justified to say that supporters of communism want more state control or restrictions on freedom.
 

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In relation to the actual topic:
Yeah, you get them everywhere. Anywhere where there are foreigners, you will get racists, and where you get racists, you will typicaly find someone who decides that Hitler was a great guy.
 

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Xvito said:
cainx10a said:
ssgt splatter said:
Russian Nazis...? Yeah, I don't get it either.
skin heads, ain't that how they were called?

Remembered a few years ago a few immigrant/international students were murdered in russia, well, not really a good idea to walk the streets at night.
I don't get it...! Is there like a general misconception that all skinheads are racist...? Because they're not.
Meh, actually took the time to read a little bit about that particular subculture. Guess I was wrong, sorry if I offended anyone.
 

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nuckpang said:
Lukie said:
nuckpang said:
Lukie said:
Yes millions of Russians did die because of communism! They made a race law that if you critised the Jew you would be sentenced to death! The reason this law was pasted is because the Jew basically wormed there way into the political system is was something like 197 Jews in power of a possible 213 positions.

All these communist leaders were Jewish; Starling, Lenin , Trotski , Marx ALL OF THEM.

So you must forgive the Russians for not wanting more foreign entities in there land.

Feel free to call me an anti-Semite all I am doing is stating fact.

If you want to talk about racism The Jewish population is the most ethnocentric of the bunch.

Israel wants exactly the same as what hitler wanted.
Okay, you're an anti-semite.

In addition to being an anti-semite you're also a troll and/or complete moron. Stalin was raised Georgian Orthodox and attended a seminary before becoming an athiest. Lenin was baptised into the Russian Orthodox church. Marx and Trotski were ethnically Jewish but Marx became a Lutheran and Trotski was an atheist. You fail at reality. Have a nice day.
Ah ha here we go, now we mustn't criticise the Jews that would be anti-Semetic; it's funny that they are virtually the only race you can't critise for there actions you must be pretty badly indoctrinated, your a sheep!

"The name of Stalin -- Djugashvili -- means in Georgian "son of Israelite" because "Djuga" is an Israelite and "Shvili" is a son. The family of Djugashvili were of Christian faith originating from the mountainous Jews of Caucasus converted to Christianity in the beginning of the 19th century." [G.Klimov, Protocols of Soviet Wise Men, p 196, 1981]

and Lenin on his grandfather was Jewish on this Mothers side.

They were all jewish by blood!
"And you can neither spell nor punctuate."
here we go open up with a nice Ad hominem attack.

"I have family who live and work in the Gaza strip so trust me, I am not a fan of Israel. However there is a big difference between the nation of Israel and Jews as an ethnic or religious group." Blood and soil


"You can criticise any group of people that you like, as long as you can back it up with fact and reasoned argument. You seen capable of neither,"

Ah but I did and you simply lied to try and get YOUR point across.

"and just want to spout anti-Jewish hatred. THAT makes you an anti-Semite, not criticising Jews."
Exactly because I criticise the Jews that makes me an anti-semite, so what your basicily saying is that cannot say anything about them which would put them in a bad light okay I get ya.

"At the risk of sounding repetitive, I'll say it again just so I'm clear: You're a moron."

More Ad hominem attacks goodie.

"Just because some time in the past Stalin's and Lenin's families contained Jewish blood does NOT make them Jewish."
but you said before they wern't why are you lying?

If Stalin was such a fan of the Jews, why did he outlaw the religion, burn down synagogues " Do you know what the checka are??

"execute just as many Jews as any other group of people in the purges and order mass arrests of Jewish intellectuals and the suppression of Jewish culture?" You are wrong there the vast majorities of the murders were committed against white Christian Russians again look up the checka.

"The answer is simple, whatever religious or racial background he had (which, lest we forget, was not immediately Jewish)
"but he was Jewish though right? make up your mind."

it didn't influence his running of the USSR." look into which capitalist were funding communism also.

"One last time: You're a moron."
And closing with Ad hominem good work, but the thing is I would rather know the truth than live in ignorant bliss.

"Finally, I've no intention of turning this thread into a flame war, so I'll not be responding to any more of your trolling posts having received this advice:"

Okay good luck with that are you all out of steam from throwing insults at me and lying??




Have a nice day.
I will come to you in a minute...
Masterthief said:
Lukie said:
Zuljiin said:
This is actually something that has been bugging me for a while. Since it was Hitler's, what, 120th birthday two days ago, I've been hearing about groups of Russian youths beating up on minorities.

I'm not politically correct, but what the hell guys? 23 million Russians died in that war! And the ones who didn't, and are still alive must be really proud.

The reason for this thread would be: Does anyone have any information on this? Because so far, this makes no sence to me.
Yes millions of Russians did die because of communism! They made a race law that if you critised the Jew you would be sentenced to death! The reason this law was pasted is because the Jew basically wormed there way into the political system is was something like 197 Jews in power of a possible 213 positions.

All these communist leaders were Jewish; Starling, Lenin , Trotski , Marx ALL OF THEM.

So you must forgive the Russians for not wanting more foreign entities in there land.

Feel free to call me an anti-Semite all I am doing is stating fact.

If you want to talk about racism The Jewish population is the most ethnocentric of the bunch.

Israel wants exactly the same as what hitler wanted.
"In that case I will take you up on your offer. The 'All commies are jews' is ripped straight from Nazi propaganda (vive la Godwin)"

Well I have never read it and I never said what you quoted.

"The Israli occupation of Palestine is fronted by an obscure Jewish sect know as the 'Zionists'."

Yes which funnily is supported in world wide as we have British born Jewish lads who are over there now murdering Palestinians, don't tell me it's just an Israeli sect.

"They do not want what Hitler wanted, 'lebensraum' was meerly a front to make his occupations look ever so slightly better and make the rest of the world feel better about ignoring him."

Oh no look at the land they have stolen? The fact that they want a country just for Jewish people? The percussion of the Palestinian people? sounds very similar to me.

"Though what is happening in Israel is wrong, it is neither fair nor accurate to relate it to Hitler's 'Third Reich' ideologies."

Your damn right it's wrong! Don't you think that if it wasn't Israel and it was another country with the same ideologies we would be at war with them?

"It also has nothing to do with this topic. But this IS an internet forum."

Ah but it has, you see I am trying to show people why The Russians may not like foreigners in there country from their past experience.

"EDIT: I know this has already been said, I just dislike the tone of your bitching"

You can dislike it all you want and I'm not bitching just trying to add a bit of balance to this discussion.
 

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The Soviet Union and Germany were allied to Hitler betrayed Joseph Stalin on 06/22/41 by breaking their pact.The Russians never fought Germany for political views it was about revenge. Plus a good portion of those deaths where from Russians order to kill Russians deserters as in Order No. 270.That's why Soviet Union still try to kill Germans after the war.
 

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Pyromaniac1337 said:
HOW TO TELL SOMEONE IS AN ANTI-SEMITE TROLL:
They claim that Israel shouldn't exist, and claim that Jews are murdering Arabs.

THEREFORE: Everyone ignore Lukie.
I never said Israel shouldn't exist and they ARE Murdering Arabs.

And you know Arabs are Semites too right?
 

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Lukie said:
just trying to add a bit of balance to this discussion.
To quote Toy Story, 'You strange, sad little man.' This is the internet. There is no balance. Only porn.
Also, Godwin's Law, look it up.