I was eating a rutabaga at the time.Bedinsis said:Is Furious Rutabaga a reference to something, other than to evoke the feel of a youtube personality's potential username?
Furious Rutabaga is a verity of what is know in the UK as the vegetable Swede.Bedinsis said:Is Furious Rutabaga a reference to something, other than to evoke the feel of a youtube personality's potential username?
Grey you've gone native, you should know that a rutabaga is really a swede!The Wooster said:I was eating a rutabaga at the time.Bedinsis said:Is Furious Rutabaga a reference to something, other than to evoke the feel of a youtube personality's potential username?
You're likely to take this with a grain of salt, but I'm pretty much certain that shit doesn't happen outside a few isolated cases. Very few sites actually have the raw readership to be worth that kind of pressure and for most journos working in the business, proof of a publisher pushing for a better score is BIGGER NEWS than the review itself. Based on my own experience and the reviewers in my social circle, I think pressure from readers is a far bigger factor when it comes to inflated scores. Look at the responses to even slightly negative reviews of big titles. Scary stuff.Thunderous Cacophony said:In terms of the post-comic blurb, I think what a lot of people are worried about is that for every Batman there's a bevy of Jokers teaching young writers how to follow the rules the corps lay down so the institution they are working for can get free stuff and access to private events (to say what the company wants you to say). I agree that it's easy for lone journalists to be corrupted, but it's a lot harder for, say, EA to find and pay off 150 different reviewers and bloggers to give a positive review to the new Battlefront than it would be for them to call up the top 10 gaming websites, talk to the editor that they've known for years, and subtly push for a better score.
I'm aware of the fact that rutabaga is another word for the vegetable swede. Since Swede can also refer to someone from Sweden it stood to reason that the user name was a thin reference to a real channel ("The Angry Swede" or whatever).albino boo said:Furious Rutabaga is a verity of what is know in the UK as the vegetable Swede.
Naturally you know more about the actual workings than I do.The Wooster said:You're likely to take this with a grain of salt, but I'm pretty much certain that shit doesn't happen outside a few isolated cases. Very few sites actually have the raw readership to be worth that kind of pressure and for most journos working in the business, proof of a publisher pushing for a better score is BIGGER NEWS than the review itself. Based on my own experience and the reviewers in my social circle, I think pressure from readers is a far bigger factor when it comes to inflated scores. Look at the responses to even slightly negative reviews of big titles. Scary stuff.
I don't think editors are inherently negative; for one, they are great for telling you when your opinion is trash and that you need to work it over again to actually find the worthwhile points to talk about. I've been on both sides of that equation, though not in a news/video game setting, and I know that a lot of times what seems like unfiltered opinion has gone through rigorous drafting. I do agree that poor editors can have an throttling influence on the writers, though.Blazing Hero said:You mentioned that you worry about the new comers not having editors to guide them and help mold them. I actually view not having editors as a strength of this new media rather than a weakness. Those who provide content are able to put forth whatever thoughts they want without others managing their words or telling them what they can or can not write. I believe this will lead to more accountability since ones work is ultimately their own responsibility. Also without a filter I hope this leads to a whole range of new and diverse views that we might not have gotten with certain editors dictating what can and cannot be reported on.
For that to work the job would have to not pay like shit and have some degree of real-world prestige. I don't' see that happening any time soon.Sigmund Av Volsung said:ALL HAIL GEOFF KEIGHLEY
ALL HAIL THE EMM ELL GEE
OT: Once games journos will stop being randoms from the street who played games that one time and people with relevant qualifications, maybe then we'd have less problems.
That, or some sort of internal policing.
Also, that's totally not what the Joker would do.The Wooster said:You're likely to take this with a grain of salt, but I'm pretty much certain that shit doesn't happen outside a few isolated cases. Very few sites actually have the raw readership to be worth that kind of pressure and for most journos working in the business, proof of a publisher pushing for a better score is BIGGER NEWS than the review itself. Based on my own experience and the reviewers in my social circle, I think pressure from readers is a far bigger factor when it comes to inflated scores. Look at the responses to even slightly negative reviews of big titles. Scary stuff.Thunderous Cacophony said:In terms of the post-comic blurb, I think what a lot of people are worried about is that for every Batman there's a bevy of Jokers teaching young writers how to follow the rules the corps lay down so the institution they are working for can get free stuff and access to private events (to say what the company wants you to say). I agree that it's easy for lone journalists to be corrupted, but it's a lot harder for, say, EA to find and pay off 150 different reviewers and bloggers to give a positive review to the new Battlefront than it would be for them to call up the top 10 gaming websites, talk to the editor that they've known for years, and subtly push for a better score.
There is a variety of Swede called furious. Its a heritage vertiy and not much grown these days, must Swedes that are grown are of the hunter vertiy.Bedinsis said:I quote you since I'm uncertain if I've understood correctly: is there a species of rutabaga called the "furious rutabaga"?
Get humanities and arts students then.The Wooster said:For that to work the job would have to not pay like shit and have some degree of real-world prestige. I don't' see that happening any time soon.Sigmund Av Volsung said:ALL HAIL GEOFF KEIGHLEY
ALL HAIL THE EMM ELL GEE
OT: Once games journos will stop being randoms from the street who played games that one time and people with relevant qualifications, maybe then we'd have less problems.
That, or some sort of internal policing.
comparing 9s with the Holocaust and demanding firings over 8s? What could possibly be scary there, man?The Wooster said:Look at the responses to even slightly negative reviews of big titles. Scary stuff.
Weirdly enough, neither of these things are happening. And that appears to be the joke. For all this concept of a new and different media, we're seeing the same old story, same old song and dance.Blazing Hero said:Those who provide content are able to put forth whatever thoughts they want without others managing their words or telling them what they can or can not write. I believe this will lead to more accountability since ones work is ultimately their own responsibility.
I'm curious as to what relevant qualifications are here.Sigmund Av Volsung said:OT: Once games journos will stop being randoms from the street who played games that one time and people with relevant qualifications, maybe then we'd have less problems.
That would mean less click-bait and ad revenue. I'm not even sure you can expect that from modern journalism, let alone "games journalism."That, or some sort of internal policing.
Anything that prepares people for criticism and cross-reference really. Journalism would be good for the law side of things, but even stuff like History can give a person perspective into objective evaluations, collaboration and scrutiny.Zachary Amaranth said:I'm curious as to what relevant qualifications are here.Sigmund Av Volsung said:OT: Once games journos will stop being randoms from the street who played games that one time and people with relevant qualifications, maybe then we'd have less problems.
That would mean less click-bait and ad revenue. I'm not even sure you can expect that from modern journalism, let alone "games journalism."That, or some sort of internal policing.