NO! NOT A TVTROPES LINK! D:V8 Ninja said:
*A giant black hole appears*
NO! I HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO WITH MY TIME! I DON'T WANT TO GO IN! I DON'T WANT TO...
*Gets sucked in*
Ooh, I wonder what is considered a Super hero school. :3
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*A giant black hole appears*
NO! I HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO WITH MY TIME! I DON'T WANT TO GO IN! I DON'T WANT TO...
*Gets sucked in*
Ooh, I wonder what is considered a Super hero school. :3
Hmm.
Can't say I didn't enjoy it, but it felt very weak.
-The voice-acting still needs a lot of work.
-The animation for the talky scenes is pretty bad (She eats cookies in one bite by barely opening her mouth? Dafug?)
-Another generic high-school story? *Graon*
-Some of the designs don't really match each other. The most obvious one was the buildings in the opening. They felt out extremely of place.
Other than that, it has potential. I really hope he can make it better as the series goes on.
Can't say I didn't enjoy it, but it felt very weak.
-The voice-acting still needs a lot of work.
-The animation for the talky scenes is pretty bad (She eats cookies in one bite by barely opening her mouth? Dafug?)
-Another generic high-school story? *Graon*
-Some of the designs don't really match each other. The most obvious one was the buildings in the opening. They felt out extremely of place.
Other than that, it has potential. I really hope he can make it better as the series goes on.
Well until we see them take math classes I don't feel it is fair to call Beacon Academy a High school. It is more like a College for people wanting to become monster hunters. It just so happens that Ruby skipped ahead, but most people appear to be in a 17-18 age range.
Red has problems, how can she eat a whole bowl of cookies in 30 seconds?, and without even chewing?, she makes Hei look like an amateur
And i just can't take anything that constantly uses the word "Dust" seriously, i always picture the Dustloop
That made me think, with some imagination, this could be a Guilty Gear spin-off
The world was created by Sol Dustlooping everything until he ran out of things to Dustloop, and then he genetically engineered life(since he's a scientist) in his likeness, ergo the whole dust power thing
And the part when the narrator says something about hope dying is when Sol lost his Dustloop, and depending on how the story progresses, he will settle for the Sidewinder Loop(Awesome, Extremely satisfying, but hard to do), or the new Dustloop shown in the Xrd trailer
I interpret the Sidewinder loop as an Earn Your Happy Ending type of scenario, and i can't really interpret the new Dustloop since Xrd isn't out yet
If Sol gets his Dustloop back, but loses it at a later date, another kind of Dustloop could be created, since the humans were created by Dust or something, it could be a Dustloop in the sense that when there is no more Dust, the humans lose hope and die, but eventually Dust comes back and makes more humans, if the Dustloop kills the enemy, it could signify that the humans won, and if the Dustloop is interrupted it could be a downer ending
I should really go see a therapist
And i just can't take anything that constantly uses the word "Dust" seriously, i always picture the Dustloop
That made me think, with some imagination, this could be a Guilty Gear spin-off
The world was created by Sol Dustlooping everything until he ran out of things to Dustloop, and then he genetically engineered life(since he's a scientist) in his likeness, ergo the whole dust power thing
And the part when the narrator says something about hope dying is when Sol lost his Dustloop, and depending on how the story progresses, he will settle for the Sidewinder Loop(Awesome, Extremely satisfying, but hard to do), or the new Dustloop shown in the Xrd trailer
I interpret the Sidewinder loop as an Earn Your Happy Ending type of scenario, and i can't really interpret the new Dustloop since Xrd isn't out yet
If Sol gets his Dustloop back, but loses it at a later date, another kind of Dustloop could be created, since the humans were created by Dust or something, it could be a Dustloop in the sense that when there is no more Dust, the humans lose hope and die, but eventually Dust comes back and makes more humans, if the Dustloop kills the enemy, it could signify that the humans won, and if the Dustloop is interrupted it could be a downer ending
I should really go see a therapist
Not a big fan, it seems like RWBY is going to be another Strangerhood for me; a show everyone seems to love and I absolutely can't stand. I don't like the art style, the fight scenes, the dialogue, but most importantly the Monty-ness of the show. So, I'll be staying away from this one from now on.
I thought Torchwick - is that the name of the guy with the orange hair? I couldn't be arsed to watch the entire episode - looked a lot like Alex from Clockwork Orange.MoreThanANoob said:
EDIT: I mean it's super obvious where they got the inspiration for him, even if they did anime it up.
OT: Yeeeeeeeah, not for me.
This. I won't deny it was far from perfect, but God Damn if I don't have one hell of a soft spot for passion projects like this. I really believe you can tell the difference, regardless of budget and production values, between something that was made with real love and something that was made to commission and designed by committee; and I got that from RWBY, I got it by the bucket load.erttheking said:
The only good part is the action/fights. I like the creativity with how the weapons and abilities work, how they affect the environment etc. Some of the dialogue was okay to, but anything that was good was just your usual cliche anime stuff. I like Red and Yellow's voices but judging by the black trailer i think I'm going to hate Black and her friend's voices.
The animation is crap for anything but the action, some parts are done really lazily (when i say lazily i mean they've cut corners. I realise how hard they work just to bring it up to these standards).
Honestly i'd prefer 1 good quality 20 minute episode each year rather than these unpolished ones. Kind wish they'd kickstarted it to get enough cash to do it in anime style (but that DOES take a lot of time, money and effort).
The animation is crap for anything but the action, some parts are done really lazily (when i say lazily i mean they've cut corners. I realise how hard they work just to bring it up to these standards).
Honestly i'd prefer 1 good quality 20 minute episode each year rather than these unpolished ones. Kind wish they'd kickstarted it to get enough cash to do it in anime style (but that DOES take a lot of time, money and effort).
It's really off putting for me because it really feels like I'm watching the cut scenes of some really average anime game and at any second I should be able to jump in and play...but that point never comes. I stopped being a fan of anime in highschool so I really don't seem myself looking into this past 1 or 2 episodes.
That's my criticism of all of Oum's work so far, the animation quality of every work I've seen of his is very sub-par to what I'm used to. There's no weight to them, they feel stiff, there's no anticipation or follow-through, just fast action then a cut. He takes a lot of shortcuts in the animation such as not animating hands or feet (or even having the wrists or ankles bend). Or just straight up not showing the limbs, hiding them out of frame. Weapon twirls are often of just the weapon spinning in place with hardly any hand movement.Desert Punk said:
Now, as someone who can 3D animate too, I understand how difficult it is and tolerate a lot especially when it comes to non-movie studio stuff without motion capture and such. For instance, feet floating during movement, since one would often animate a sequence with the character static, then move the whole character object in the scene, so actual placement and speed might not match. However, I often see his character just slide with hardly any leg motion at all, often when dodging. And there's a lack of continuity where you stop and think "Wait, she's doing this move, but wasn't the opponent over there? How did it change like that?"
It's basically a lot of flashy, shallow action bits designed to appeal for show. I prefer quality to quantity.
>MMD Used as the CG engine
>Yeah, we get your character references. If goldie isn't referencing Mami from Madoka I'll eat my nice warm beanie.
>X is the only one who can use X so is sent to X to learn X
>Fight scenes are over the top and meaningless. (Note I say AND. This could change though, I thought Madoka's fights were a bit meaningless... I have never trusted Gen again).
Shit, lets just watch Mami for a second
These are pretty petty complaints, especially considering its an RT production. I mean... I mentioned Madoka... Twice... Because that's completely fair. I know, and I'd ignore them IF there opening wasn't
>Mobster bad guy has to steal Mana that's sold in a corner shop yet has enough to purchase a VTOL.
So...
Yeah, it's nonsensical, and I bet was only thrown in because it seems cool. It kinda was, but it broke any suspension of disbelief. I can deal with a girl using an op shotgun to fly around, but not some punk having a VTOL, I know, I'm the weird one.
But that kind of glaring thing right in the opening act, and then with all my minor gripes really tells me not to invest any time into it.
Let's put it this way, its not one that I'm going to go out of my way to watch.
Instead I'm going to go watch Black Rock Shooter.
>Yeah, we get your character references. If goldie isn't referencing Mami from Madoka I'll eat my nice warm beanie.
>X is the only one who can use X so is sent to X to learn X
>Fight scenes are over the top and meaningless. (Note I say AND. This could change though, I thought Madoka's fights were a bit meaningless... I have never trusted Gen again).
Shit, lets just watch Mami for a second
These are pretty petty complaints, especially considering its an RT production. I mean... I mentioned Madoka... Twice... Because that's completely fair. I know, and I'd ignore them IF there opening wasn't
>Mobster bad guy has to steal Mana that's sold in a corner shop yet has enough to purchase a VTOL.
So...
Yeah, it's nonsensical, and I bet was only thrown in because it seems cool. It kinda was, but it broke any suspension of disbelief. I can deal with a girl using an op shotgun to fly around, but not some punk having a VTOL, I know, I'm the weird one.
But that kind of glaring thing right in the opening act, and then with all my minor gripes really tells me not to invest any time into it.
Let's put it this way, its not one that I'm going to go out of my way to watch.
Instead I'm going to go watch Black Rock Shooter.
1. Some of the dialogue was just awful, just so rancid. "You're going to be the bees knees" or some shit. Spare me the cliches.
2. This was pointed out before but I'm gong to talk about it some more; the hand animations. The hand animations have been awful since they introduced CGI into RvB. I figured they would get better, but they appear to have gotten worse.
3. I'm disappointed with the whole "Going to the Academy" bit. This has been done to death in japanese anime and manga, and I don't think Oum has the writing chops to make it interesting.
4. Inconsistencies in Ruby's character. "I want go to the Academy! Its my dream!" *later on the airship* "I don't want to be here." :/
Its pulled out a bunch of anime cliches and its only the first episode. I like some of the character designs, and the world is interesting, but the dialogue... the dialogue is really what I'm hung up about (hell, that one line I quoted earlier is really THE line of dialogue I didn't like at all). I just... I dunno. I'm going to give it a chance, mostly because I really like Monty Oum. But I'm also a little sick of anime in general right now, so maybe I'm being biased. But, to be completely honest, I felt the first episode was really mediocre. It'll probably get better as it goes along.
2. This was pointed out before but I'm gong to talk about it some more; the hand animations. The hand animations have been awful since they introduced CGI into RvB. I figured they would get better, but they appear to have gotten worse.
3. I'm disappointed with the whole "Going to the Academy" bit. This has been done to death in japanese anime and manga, and I don't think Oum has the writing chops to make it interesting.
4. Inconsistencies in Ruby's character. "I want go to the Academy! Its my dream!" *later on the airship* "I don't want to be here." :/
Its pulled out a bunch of anime cliches and its only the first episode. I like some of the character designs, and the world is interesting, but the dialogue... the dialogue is really what I'm hung up about (hell, that one line I quoted earlier is really THE line of dialogue I didn't like at all). I just... I dunno. I'm going to give it a chance, mostly because I really like Monty Oum. But I'm also a little sick of anime in general right now, so maybe I'm being biased. But, to be completely honest, I felt the first episode was really mediocre. It'll probably get better as it goes along.
It's not that she didn't want to be there it's that it was a big rush and she wasn't sure she was ready for it.Brian Tams said:
Bees knees was hilarious. Maybe more so for me because i took the next line "...I don't want to be any kind of knees!" as a racial statement.
I'm not impressed by it so far. I WANT to be impressed by it - I love Red vs Blue. (though I miss Doc, Sister, Donut, Lopez and Shiela.) But so far it just seems... blah.
I generally don't put much stock in the animation or graphics so I'm not going to rag on the animation style. If I like the story and I like the voice acting (and the music), I'll get used to the animation style. As an example, I loved "Broken Saints" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0451002/) even though it took me the entire show to get used to the animation. So when Animism: The Gods Lake (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1795724/) was showing earlier this year I was quite able to enjoy the story and characters without having to get used to the strange animation style.
What's letting me down in RWBY is the voice acting first and foremost. It sounds like a combination of a first-time voice director trying to work with first-time voice actors, all working with a script in desperate need of a ruthless editor. Which is the second thing that's letting me down - the story. It just seems like generic anime at best, a bad rip off of generic anime at worst.
My first impression of the premiere episode is that this series is something that is like an inside joke at Rooster Teeth - they LOVE it, it hits them every time, they understand what is being referenced and it's fantastic for them. But when they show it to someone who's on the outside looking in, that outside person just stares at you, not seeing the humour in it.
I really hope this series doesn't turn out to be a "You had to be there." sort of series.
I generally don't put much stock in the animation or graphics so I'm not going to rag on the animation style. If I like the story and I like the voice acting (and the music), I'll get used to the animation style. As an example, I loved "Broken Saints" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0451002/) even though it took me the entire show to get used to the animation. So when Animism: The Gods Lake (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1795724/) was showing earlier this year I was quite able to enjoy the story and characters without having to get used to the strange animation style.
What's letting me down in RWBY is the voice acting first and foremost. It sounds like a combination of a first-time voice director trying to work with first-time voice actors, all working with a script in desperate need of a ruthless editor. Which is the second thing that's letting me down - the story. It just seems like generic anime at best, a bad rip off of generic anime at worst.
My first impression of the premiere episode is that this series is something that is like an inside joke at Rooster Teeth - they LOVE it, it hits them every time, they understand what is being referenced and it's fantastic for them. But when they show it to someone who's on the outside looking in, that outside person just stares at you, not seeing the humour in it.
I really hope this series doesn't turn out to be a "You had to be there." sort of series.
MMMmmmm, maybe the joke just bounced off me. I am told that I lack a sense of humor.Dizeazedkiller said:
