School shooting at Texas Elementary school, several children reported dead

[Cicada 5]

Trolls Are Blaming Two Teen Girls For Uvalde Shooting...Instead of Assault Rifles

The Uvalde gunman messaged two girls before the attack. One is being accused of being his girlfriend, and the other is being blamed for not calling the police.

jezebel.com

 

[Agema]

Glad to see the youth fight for their future and something important.

Unfortunately, they're either too young to vote, don't vote much when they do become old enough, and won't have enough money for anyone to care what they say for another 20+ years.

 

[Thaluikhain]

Is it possible they feared some kind of ransom situation and didn't wanna agitate the shooter in case he started shooting hostages? Like I get the first instinct is to call em cowards but who knows what they were trained to do in this situation.

Apparently that's the way they were trained in the 80s, before random mass shootings got popular, surround the place and take things slow and careful. But it's been known for years, maybe decades that that doesn't work in the newer style of mass shooting. Or for that matter terror attacks, which are much the same thing, but might have gotten a more enthusiastic response.

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

Glad to see the youth fight for their future and something important.

Students stage walkouts across U.S. to protest Texas school massacre

"This could have been any of us," a 17-year-old in Vermont said.

www.nbcnews.com

Students walk out of schools in protest of gun violence

Days after 19 students and 2 teachers were killed in a mass shooting, students walked out of class protesting gun violence.

abcnews.go.com

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/05/26/virginia-students-demonstrate-texas-shooting-safety/

Just waiting for Republicans to demand that police charge in and deal with these agitators.

 

[BrawlMan]

Trolls Are Blaming Two Teen Girls For Uvalde Shooting...Instead of Assault Rifles

The Uvalde gunman messaged two girls before the attack. One is being accused of being his girlfriend, and the other is being blamed for not calling the police.

jezebel.com

I really despise internet trolls. Especially the super cowardly ones who do nothing, but thinks they're doing something special.

Unfortunately, they're either too young to vote, don't vote much when they do become old enough, and won't have enough money for anyone to care what they say for another 20+ years.

If they care that much right now, I know many of them will do vote. I'm not that cynical.

Just waiting for Republicans to demand that police charge in and deal with these agitators.

Wouldn't be the first time.

 

[Dreiko]

Apparently that's the way they were trained in the 80s, before random mass shootings got popular, surround the place and take things slow and careful. But it's been known for years, maybe decades that that doesn't work in the newer style of mass shooting. Or for that matter terror attacks, which are much the same thing, but might have gotten a more enthusiastic response.

Right but I guess the issue is how can you know which is it, a terror attack/mass shooter or a hostage taker. The guy has to start shooting people first and then one can know for sure but by that time it's too late already.

 

[Thaluikhain]

Right but I guess the issue is how can you know which is it, a terror attack/mass shooter or a hostage taker. The guy has to start shooting people first and then one can know for sure but by that time it's too late already.

Well, you can't know for sure, but it seems terrorists/mass shooters are in vogue at the moment and hostage takers aren't, so it can generally be assumed to be a mass shooting type, unless they've declared themselves as hostage takers.

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

The federal border patrol eventually mobilized and came in shooting. Took them 40 minutes.

I very much doubt the cops on the scene were thinking hostages, considering they claimed to engage the guy outside first

EDIT: LOL, nevermind, the cops lied about engaging the shooter. Because of course they did. Their current line of defense is that they were willing to sacrifice that classroom to avoid getting shot and having the shooter move to a different classroom



Edit: Giving the cops way too much good faith by assuming this explanation isn't total bullshit, how would they be able to stop the gunman from going to a different room if they A) couldn't pinpoint where he was in the building and B) weren't also in the building?

 

[SilentPony]

So ive been seeing reports that several officers DID enter the school during the shooting, got their own children, and then left while the shooting was still going on.

 

[Cheetodust]

Took me awhile to catch up on the news but I'm now pro second amendment. You guys need to start shooting police in sight.

 

[crimson5pheonix]

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott says he was 'misled' about the Uvalde shooting police response

Abbott says the information that he provided at a press conference two days ago was a recitation of what law enforcement had told him in a room beforehand.

www.npr.org

ACAB, even your cop cousin.

 

[XsjadoBlaydette]

Alex Jones continues to avoid paying Sandy hook victim families while remaining rich. Oh and still profiting off lying about mass shootings even now

Alex Jones’ Bitcoin Fairy Drops $8 Million in a Month on Infowars

Alex Jones’ anonymous Bitcoin donor dropped nearly $6 million more worth of that cryptocurrency on the embattled extremist and has now given him close to $8 million in 26 days, Hatewatch has determined.

www.splcenter.org

Alex Jones’ anonymous Bitcoin donor dropped nearly $6 million more worth of that cryptocurrency on the embattled extremist and has now given him close to $8 million in 26 days, Hatewatch has determined.

Jones’ Bitcoin windfall roughly coincides with a string of losses in the Sandy Hook defamation case. A judge ruled on May 24 that the suit should be removed from bankruptcy protection and move to a trial in August to determine how much in damages Jones should be made to pay. Jones’ anonymous benefactor gave him roughly 206 Bitcoin worth $5 million on May 19, days in advance of that hearing and following a push for donations on Infowars. Hatewatch previously reported on the same donor delivering to Jones Bitcoin worth $1 million apiece across two separate transactions in April.

On the May 18 episode of Infowars, just one day before the benefactor gave the most recent donation, Jones pleaded to his audience for more funding.

"To prosecute a war, we need prayer, word of mouth, and money. Money is a symbol that the enemy has used against us, and is bringing us down with. You must use that money to attack," Jones said.

He continued his pitch for donations for several minutes, leaning on metaphors about battle and war.

"Many of you out there have sacrificed and supported this broadcast beyond your means, and I ask you to stand down. But I ask those who are of means... If you don't go to infowars.com forward slash crypto and donate...then you have abdicated and signed over your rights,” Jones said . “Because God gave you champions that will fight. God gave you people that will not back down, who will never give in, who do not have it in their DNA to submit to Satan. But if we do not have your backing, we cannot take this on, and we will be subjugated, and you will be destroyed."

One day later, the same Bitcoin megadonor who had previously given Jones $2 million worth of the cryptocurrency in April, multiplied the donation significantly.

The subject of the Sandy Hook returned to the news this week following the Uvalde, Texas massacre on May 24, when an 18-year-old murdered 19 children and two adults at Robb Elementary School. Jones called the 2012 Sandy Hook massacre, wherein a man murdered 20 children and six adults at a Connecticut elementary school “a hoax” in its aftermath, leading to the suit. Infowars viewers harassed the parents of murdered children after the attack.

Jones adopted a more guarded approach to the murders of children in Uvalde, while also calling the situation “very opportunistic.”

"I don't want to say this was staged," Jones told his Infowars viewers on May 24, following the Uvalde attack. "But we have specifically said, with two years of our leading mass shootings, that with all the pre-programming, that mass shootings are coming, terrorists are going to attack and we have got to take the guns. Then I'm like, well I would predict a lot of mass shootings right before elections and like clockwork, it is happening. To me, it is just very opportunistic what is happening."

Edit: oh, I thought this was the anti-woke thread, crap...sorry! A couple of glasses of wine and a session of spray painting must've got to me brain already.

 

[tippy2k2]

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott says he was 'misled' about the Uvalde shooting police response

Abbott says the information that he provided at a press conference two days ago was a recitation of what law enforcement had told him in a room beforehand.

www.npr.org

ACAB, even your cop cousin.

Don't need to worry about saving hostages if you just let the hostages get slaughtered. *Points To Head Meme*

 

[XsjadoBlaydette]

Is America the 'Safest Country on Earth'?

After 19 children were killed in the 27th U.S. school shooting of 2022, U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz from Texas claimed that America was the "safest country on Earth."

www.snopes.com

On May 26, 2022, two days after 19 children and two adults were killed during a mass shooting at an elementary school in Texas, Sky News reporter Mark Stone asked U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, why these mass shootings only seem to take place in the United States. Before walking away from the reporter, Cruz responded by saying that America is the “freest, most prosperous, safest country on Earth.”

Cruz said: “Why is it that people come from all over the world to America? ‘Cause it’s the freest, most prosperous, safest country on earth. Stop being a propagandist.”

Is America the Safest Country on Earth?
“Safety” is a pretty broad term that can be applied to a number of aspects of life. While infant mortality rate is often used as an indicator of a society’s general health (the United States ranks 33rd out of the 36 countries in the OECD), we’ll look at this claim in terms of gun violence, as that was the context in which Cruz’s comment was made.


We found several studies that compared gun violence statistics in the United States to other countries in the world. In 2019, for example, Preventative Medicine published a study that examined “violent death rates” in the United States compared to other high-income countries. That study found that the homicide rate in the US was “7.5 times higher than the homicide rate in the other high-income countries.”

The US continues to be an outlier among high-income countries in terms of firearm deaths. Indeed, it has become more of an outlier in the 21st century. Between 2003 and 2015, the US firearm death rate increased from 10.2 to 11.2 (Richardson & Hemenway, 2011). During the same period, the firearm death rate of the other high-income countries declined, so that the relative situation in the US has worsened. In 2003 the firearm death rate was 7.5 times higher, in 2010 it was 10.0 times higher, and by 2015 it was 11.4 times higher than that of the other high income countries.

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the U.S. had more than 45,000 gun-related deaths (including suicide) in 2020, or about 124 gun deaths per day. This is nearly 1/5th of all 250,000 gun deaths that take place every year worldwide.

CBS News reported in 2019:

Gun deaths worldwide total about 250,000 yearly and the United States is among just six countries that make up half of those fatalities, a study found.
The results from one of the most comprehensive analyses of firearm deaths reveal “a major public health problem for humanity,” according to an editorial published with the study Tuesday in the Journal of the American Medical Association.

According to the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, the intentional homicide rate in the United States (five victims per 100,000 people) is below the global average (5.8). However, the intentional homicide rate in the U.S. is higher than all six of the other G7 countries combined: France (1.2), Germany (0.9), Japan (0.3), Italy (0.6), and the United Kingdom (.9).

In terms of gun violence, the United States is not the safest country on Earth. In fact, American citizens are about 25 times more likely to be the victim of a gun homicide than in other affluent nations.

Do School Shootings Only Take Place in the United States?
Although it’s not true that the United States is the only country in the world that has seen school shootings, they take place at a much higher frequency in the U.S. than most other parts of the world. NPR reported that there had been 27 school shootings in the first 21 weeks of 2022.


In May 2018, after 10 people were killed at a high school in Santa Fe, Texas, CNN compared the number of school shootings in the United States to the number of school shootings in other G7 countries. The news network found:

There have been at least 288 school shootings in the United States since January 1, 2009.
That’s 57 times as many shootings as the other six G7 countries combined.

The United States is also an outlier if you look at mass shootings generally. In 2017, Adam Lankford, an associate professor of criminal justice at the University of Alabama, found that nearly a third of the gunmen in mass shootings occurred in the U.S.

The New York Times reported:

Americans make up about 4.4 percent of the global population but own 42 percent of the world’s guns. From 1966 to 2012, 31 percent of the gunmen in mass shootings worldwide were American, according to a 2015 study by Adam Lankford, a professor at the University of Alabama.
Adjusted for population, only Yemen has a higher rate of mass shootings among countries with more than 10 million people — a distinction Mr. Lankford urged to avoid outliers. Yemen has the world’s second-highest rate of gun ownership after the United States.

We took a more in-depth look at this question in a previous article. In short, while school shootings have occurred in other countries, they happen at a much higher frequency in the United States.

 

[crimson5pheonix]

 

[SilentPony]

Uvalde shooting: Texas shooting response was wrong, says official

"Please send the police now," one girl pleaded as officers waited over an hour to storm the classroom.

www.bbc.com

Okay Im not sure I understand this. I get that during a shooting its by definition a chaotic, heart stopping and stress inducing event. And stress does shit to the body. You lose track of time, details, events flow together and its not unheard of to basically blackout and "wake up" after the stress hormones ware off. But it seems like for 19 police officers in the school during the shooting they didn't hear the actual gunshots and, as grizzly as it sounds, thought the shooter was out of children to shoot.
BUT some kids were still alive, calling the police and saying he was still shooting and they need rescue. But for 40mins the police stood down because they didn't believe it was an active shooter anymore.
Like did they not hear the gunshots? Were they in on this? Were they giving the shooter more time to finish up? Im not following the lack of urgency in their actions.

 

[Dreiko]

This illogical stuff is what leads to crazy people who think the CIA plans these things out to outlaw guns or what have you. But no the gunshots were audible from like, outside the school cause you had witnesses talk about hearing them so they definitely heard that he was still shooting. Also at random points you had random civilians somehow break through the perimeter and get kids out of the school during the hour or so that they let the guy loose in the school so they should have known that not all the kids were shot yet.

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

I mean, the simple answer is that the cops fucked up bad and failed at the single job they get massively overfunded to pretend to do and are scrambling for any half-baked obvious lie their support base is willing to swallow

 

[XsjadoBlaydette]

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

So ive been seeing reports that several officers DID enter the school during the shooting, got their own children, and then left while the shooting was still going on.

"Everyone calm down. My kids are safe."

(If these reports are true, every last one of those officers needs to, at the very least, lose their job and pension. I'd prefer to see them prosecuted for criminal neglect, but hey, no constitutional duty to protect, so on.)