School Uniform Nazis

[likalaruku]

Well, personally I would come to school the next day wearing white pants, red shorts, or a green kilt just to be spiteful, but that's me.

We're living in a world where 12 year old girls are dragged off in handcuffs for writing on their desks in dry-erase markers. A world where your neighbor will sick the swat team on you for not mowing your lawn.

 

[Simalacrum]

I'm lucky to have gone to a school where, so long as its a suit, I can wear anything I want (for 6th form, at least)

So, I go in with a brown jacket, khaki trousers, bright pink shirt, purple tie and violet jumper.

Campness ftw! XD

OT: I understand how you feel, my old school was also like that (before the 6th form school, that is) - I found that, if I don't get angry at the teachers and calmly explain why I'm not in proper school uniform, then (sometimes) they are more understanding about the whole shizzle.

The key is to act maturely, and calmly explain - no shouting, raising your voice, swearing, etc, that just makes the situation worse.

 

[Aerodyamic]

We have an actual uniform, with like a tie and stuff.

Dress codes/policies are stupid (what you have).

The idea is that it breeds conformity. Most trades do have a uniform of sorts, whether it's builders in their helmets and high-vis jackets, McDonalds workers in their outfits, or office workers in suits and ties.

School is just training for work, after all; the real lessons you're supposed to learn at school are obeying those with authority over you, being on time, working hard etc. The stuff they actually teach you in your lessons is largely useless, it's the subconscious lessons that are meant to stick with you.

Yeah, there's nothing more important than ensuring the next generation of consumers get properly indoctrinated.

Sit up straight.
Wear these clothes.
Buy these products.
Do as we tell you, or else.

Jello Biafra isn't a cynic, he's right.

 

[oppp7]

Every year, the seniors at my school would vote to make uniforms manditory for the school. So I can't help but feel my peers(I didn't go along with that shit) have something to do with it...

 

[electric discordian]

Devils advocate time, the smokers and the vandals I am pretty sure don't walk around the corridors smoking from nine to 3.30 and the vandals don't spray paint the halls, unless you go to a pretty bad school. The ones I have taught in have never been that bad.

It may seem arbitrary but the fact is they think they can still discipline you is a compliment it indicates that you still have a small chance of going somewhere in life.

Yeah and to another responder, perhaps the reason the world is in the state that it's in is because no one gives educators any respect at all. We use drunken drugged up wife beating sports stars as role-models rather than those who actually serve the rest of society!

The idea of a uniform is a good one, otherwise it turns into a fashion parade, where some people who can afford it wear the latest Nike trainers the others pester parents who cannot afford it to buy them or else they are ostracised.

Oh and lets not even go into the law suit if one of the precious little darlings managed to get poster paint or glue down their £200 T Shirt, because it would be the schools fault!

 

[Ghostkai]

Would you wear a pair of tracksuit bottoms in an office job?
School uniforms are there to get you used to dress codes in the working world.

It's not exactly hard to adhere to them though is it?

 

[Unia]

I'm so happy schools in my country have no dresscodes beyond
"cover your privates and wear a beanie if it's so cold the milk in the caffeteria
gets frozen inside cartons".

Some people say uniforms would even things out between kids from different socio-economic backgrounds, when in fact it just makes a needless dent in poor family's budget.

OT: "Too light black?" So perfectly clean, intact clothes that have faded with time won't do?
That's totalitarian BS.

 

[tman_au]

Some teachers are like that. They need to justify their existence somehow, as petty as it may be. If your in an Aussie school your final exams are only months away so the teachers should really just stay quiet. I turned 18 several months before my final exams and one teacher pulled me up for wearing black with thin tan striped shoe strings on my black shoes and threatened to send me home. This is a public high school. I basically told her I'm 18, I don't have to take her petty crap and if she wants to take it further, I would and lodge action against her with the department of education for harassment and hindering my education. I still went down to the principals office with her and then threatened to quit the school, citing my reasons. Since I was always a good top mark student and had the respect of most of the teachers, the principal decided it was appropriate for her to apologise to me and told her to get off her power trip with the senior students. Should have seen the look on her, she went as red as a tomato.
So yeah it does pay off to stick up for yourself in these situations as long as you do it assertively and being assertive is a real quality that will get you far in life. If it's a private school maybe you should tell your folks to stop wasting money and go to a public one instead.

 

[Treblaine]

I just got sent home from school for wearing trousers that were just not black enough to meet the schools expectations. I'm in the final year at my school, and everyone is meant to set a 'good example' to the younger years by dressing and acting properly. So why the fuck single me out!? I don't smoke or vandalise property, I don't teach younger years to disrespect staff or any shit like that! I had my damn tie on! There are people that show up to school in bloody shellsuits! The headteacher and a teacher I thought I was on good terms with pulled me aside and threatened to expel me for not wearing 'correct school uniform'. Its bullshit!

Any comments, experiences?

YEAH! I mean if you follow most of the rules yo should be able to break others. After all, the whole point of rules is that you get to pick and choose which ones you have to follow [/sarc]

Seriously, you should have been given a second chance (were you given one?) but rules is rules, just wear the damn uniform to their expectation and be grateful when you graduate.

other people don't matter, who knows what is going on with the shell-suit wearers.

 

[_tinned_magpie_]

Back when I was in high school, our uniform was dreadful. Blazer, school sweater, shirt, tie, skirt/trousers and socks that all had the school logo and motto on them, bought from a special store. In the early years there was even regulation underwear, but thankfully that got scrapped. The ties had to be long enough to reach the navel, shirts tucked in, house badge pinned to your lapel, and they put special piping in the skirts so that they couldn't be rolled up. Talk about obsessed.

Even so, nobody followed the rules, not even me, but the teachers only used it as an excuse to tease me and I never got reported. My form tutor would reprimand me before lowering her voice and complimenting my eyeshadow. I guess for them, not alienating a student who actually listens is worth more than the dress code.

 

[Ekonk]

Unless the uniforms are very stylish for males and very sexy for females, they are obsolete and should be BURNED removed.

 

[The_Emperor]

uniforms are there to identify you as part of a "tribe" imo. I think its possessive behaviour on the part of the school. That child belongs to this school they wear our uniform.

teachers enforce rules without regards to their original intention because of a number of reasons, one being power, the other being "orders" and some teachers have genuine cause.

watch Das Experiment and youll see what power does to certain people and why certain people shouldnt be put in positions of power.
those who crave power are the least worthy to wield it.

the kids in my old school would wear their tie knots really big and the ones in the nearest other school would wear em really small

a small way of rebelling perhaps? the teachers hated it

all the little girls dress like sluts now though because thats what they see on the tv and thats what they see as attractive and they dont understand the deeper connetations that goes along with looking like a prostitute.

I would simply not let my kid wear a mini skirt if i had a kid even if she screamed. I even think its weird that women like dressing that way to feel "sexy" i mean sure a lil cleavage show some legs whatever, cos it is nice, but walking round in things that leave nothing to the imagination seems....stupid. if you dress like a slut guys will try and bone you. if your boobs are in my face im not thinking "hey this girl has a great personality" im thinking "hey id like to play with those strangely attractive globular fleshballs."

 

[Dyme]

I really would have liked school uniforms. Sadly we usually don't have school uniforms in Germany (there may be uniforms in some private schools, but I don't know any).

Less distraction, you don't have to care about what to wear. Furthermore I really don't like the idea of being individual because of special clothes. If you want to be individual, you still have a personality. Clothes are overrated.

 

[Rakkana]

My school is the same. Thank god I'm on study leave and only have 1 more exam. After that its all over.

Oh the sweet release of freedom.

The guys at my school wanted to know why they couldn't have ear rings like the girls. It led to a sexism debate and in the end the head teacher said that they didn't care and showed them a letter from the government allowing them to be sexist. To of think all the preaches they gave us...

 

[Treblaine]

out between kids from different socio-economic backgrounds, when in fact it just makes a needless dent in poor family's budget.

That's the excuse, but the original reason was ALWAYS a matter of conformity and identity, this is MY school, we're all here as one organisation.

it would only be "equal" if the school provided and paid for uniforms and all necessary replacements and repairs. I mean no army would just give a dress code and expect them to find and buy their own uniform.

School uniforms strike me as extremely idealistic, in practice the cause far more problems than they possible solve.

 

[setting_son]

Too be fair people really do need to learn the difference between black and not simply very, very, very, very dark blue

"Down with this sort of thing" (Careful now)

 

[DSK-]

In my secondary school it was quite relaxed when I joined in year 7, but gradually it got worse and worse. There came a point where after the last lesson in the day (PE) we couldn't leave wearing our PE kit (I had to catch a bus home, and so always wanted to be at the bus stop on time) they ended up having a PE teacher standing outside making sure all of us were changed. The amount of times I missed the bus beause of that...grrr

Then my school changed badge designs and you HAD to have it. If you didn't you would have been expelled. They had this 'deal' that if you handed in your old one you would get 75 pence off of the new badge - that costed like £6/8. What a joke.

In 6th form we could wear casual clothes. That was a good time.

 

[wooty]

I always got screamed at for not wearing my blazer and always wearing trainers to school. I think once I got into year 9 though they stopped caring and passed it off as a lost cause.

 

[Treblaine]

I even think its weird that women like dressing that way to feel "sexy" i mean sure a lil cleavage show some legs whatever, cos it is nice, but walking round in things that leave nothing to the imagination seems....stupid.

Unfortunately "looking sexy" is often the only way women can be accepted by male peers, while guys can be funny, congratulatory and co-operative to be "part of the gang" but it's far easier just for women to use their sex appeal to gets them a place at the big-boys table where all the cool, influential and powerful people hang out.

If you're raising a girl, I think you can't just say "no sexy skirt", you have to show them how to get through life and get their way the way guys do it; by quid pro quo competition and co-operation.

 

[cryogeist]

my schools doing a dress code next year and i cant even wear fucking JEANS i have to wear kahkis however you spell it and you know people are gonna find loop holes right