School Uniform

[Trace2010]

In elementary school, sure, the biggest person who might not be as bright could become a bully, but that's where it ends. When students get towards middle school and higher, social/psychological abuse, exclusivity ("Cliques"), usually are conducted by SMARTER, RICHER, and more socially affluent students.

And, make no mistake, people DO get bullied over clothes. As a matter of fact, it's one of the first status symbols that students get differentiated from (not only by students but psychologically proven by TEACHERS as well) on Day 1.

And considering the fact that I have seen 15 and 16 year-olds still in 8th grade (NOT ALWAYS due to being held back by failing) some of which are as tall as me (at 6'5'') I actually like the fact that all the students wear some semblance of a school uniform.

It's a polo. It's cotton. And yes, it does get hot in West Texas as well.

 

[Blue Musician]

Holland here.

and i think it might be against the law to use school uniforms here.
Freedom of Expression for the win!

we Dutch are really for our freedom.
that's right we don't even *bleep* out nasty words on tv. * le gasp*

EDIT: i really don't see any significant benefits from school uniforms.

I should live over there. Mexico forces school uniforms, and in some cases work uniforms. If you have, say, black colored socks instead of white, they suspend you. If you have a brown belt instead of black, they suspend you. If you hair is longer than 3 centimeters, they suspend you. Mexico is basically a fascist country. Add that to the bloody military, yep.

 

[Mr Snuffles]

-snip-.

Can't afford more clothes?! Fuck off, do you know how much uniforms cost? Give or take, it's over double the cost of any ordinary clothing item because it's tailor made for the school. If anything, it means nothing because then the indication for poor kids would be the ones who can't afford the uniform instead - making the whole idea mute in the first place.

Also, poor kids are never the ones who are bullied. The poor kids are the ones who do bully. They're poor for a reason, it's because they have shitty parents, ego, they're pricks. I know. I went to school with kids who never bothered wearing uniforms and turned up in tracksuit bottoms and Nike shoes - chavs.

You're really DIGGING now.

I can argue against you from a first hand point of view. I go to a (rather expensive) fee-paying school in Manchester (and before you call me a rich prick, I'm going to state that I am on a bursary), and the rich kids do take pride of place. There is a popular brand which is expensive called Superdry, and all the rich kids have it, and I have come in in cheaper items of clothing from Topman. You have no idea the kind of abuse I received, I got spat at, hit, shouted at etc. from all the posh children from their 3 story mansions in Cheshire, who deem that the poorer kids are inferior to them and therefore they can seize control.

So yes, poor kids ARE bullied, and quite frequently too...

PS. No, my parents aren't shitty, they work hard for the living they do, and look after me very well. I don't try to deny the fact that I'm poor, I take it on the chin and accept it, and as far as I'm aware, I'm not a prick...

The only thing you said here was that you were poorer than all the others, not the poor. I only said the downright poorest and stupidest are the ones who bully.

Well I am technically the poor in my school =P

Also school uniform might be twice as expensive, but you have to buy lots of different clothes, whereas you can get away with just one school uniform...

ONE stinking school uniform? Some mothers have better things to do than wash those clothes every night (like working in the kitchen or bringing me a beer). Usually, you have to buy 2 or 3 different shirts and trousers, give or take. It costs even more than double it normally would, in fact.

My single blazer and tie lasts me a whole term. A pair of trousers can easily last a week provided you don't do any serious amount of sweating... Maybe you need 2 shirts but still, compared to like 5 outfits of normal clothing it's cheaper...

 

[MrFluffy-X]

but they look hot on chicks....

 

[Canid117]

If you are in a public school in the states you do not have to wear a uniform... or go to school in the summer unless you fucked something up during the year. What class did you fail or which country of horrible evils do you live in?

 

[Blue Musician]

EDIT: i really don't see any significant benefits from school uniforms.

My schools reasons are:

If someone from the outside has entered the school they can tell them apart.

Kids are less likely to be bullied about their clothes.

It shows you are ready to work.

In Mexico none of those reasons work. Could you tell me any more please?

 

[Sougo]

schools uniforms are a good thing.

It means ppl aren't gonna show up wearing really absurd emo-style outfits everyday.

I went to a Catholic school, but atleast the higher ups were human, they'd let us leave out the blazers when it was hot. Actually the blazer was the only part of the uniform that was entirely optional.

 

[El Poncho]

EDIT: i really don't see any significant benefits from school uniforms.

My schools reasons are:

If someone from the outside has entered the school they can tell them apart.

Kids are less likely to be bullied about their clothes.

It shows you are ready to work.

In Mexico none of those reasons work. Could you tell me any more please?

These are the reasons my school has given, I cannot think of any more myself.

 

[Cain_Zeros]

I don't know if there are any schools with uniforms in Canada. Either way now that I'm college there sure as hell won't be any.

 

[Oskar K]

If tight Cheap Monday jeans that I wear everyday and only wash once a month a KISS t-shirt and Converse All star is a school uniform..... then yes.. I wear a school uniform

 

[Why do I care]

6th grade
All we had to wear was a bloody shirt and jeans. Fine by me.

7th grade
Switched schools. Uniform was blue polo tucked in with lousy khakis that didn't do shit to protect your legs from cold or hotness. Lastly, a crappy belt which I swear to god it was just awful to wear. I think it even had a damn sensor because people will hunt you down if you even adjust to a more fitable size just to BREATHE.

Sadly I have to attend another year of it until I can go.

 

[lyrandar]

I'm Australian, people are always a little bit confused about me going to a school without a uniform as the vast majority >90% of schools here have uniforms. I guess we follow the british in that regard.

 

[ScarletRider]

I had spent about a year and a half in a Catholic high school. You'd figure a private institution would have a lower rate of theft, bullying, and would be a more positive learning environment, right? I got into six fights in that first year. Twice because I butted heads with a smart ass, once because someone shoved me in the hallway, I shoved back, etc... Twice more because this one jerk thought grabbing at my crotch was funny and laughed about it with his friends (I'm a guy, and this was in a Catholic high school...), and once because someone said something about a girl that he really shouldn't have. To top it off, the teachers and staff were boring, uninspired, and basically droned on the lesson regardless of what was going on in the classroom. Uniforms didn't really help matters. It wasn't uncommon for lockers to be broken into when students kept their "normal clothes" in their to change into later. Heck, the uniforms were so expensive, it wasn't uncommon for the locker rooms to be raided during gym class to steal the uniforms themselves. The locks on the lockers were childs play.
I spend the rest of my high school years at public schools, and while they lacked the uniforms, and guys did tend to wear their pants around their thighs, it was a generally better experience over all. There was a lot less bullying, everyone seemed mainly cool, and the most violence happened in one school was a small riot that was sparked by a racial feud and not clothing. And even then, it was only between a small group of people.The teachers actually wanted to teach, and in general KNEW how to handle a rowdy bunch, inspite of the over crowded classrooms. Going public was the best thing for me, educational wise, with the added benefit of no uniforms.

 

[AndyFromMonday]

Out of the building in the playground there is generally no teachers, maybe one or two passing by every 10minutes.(This is my school, since I have been to no other school I cannot base it on anything else)

Then your school was a bad school. What sort of teacher leaves teens and children unsupervised during recess? Isn't it obvious that the majority of accidents happen during recess?

I can't deny that, but clothes are more in the open, not everyone brings their gadgets to school, their clothes may be dirty but they could hand wash them if things got desperate where as at the time they may not be able to buy new clothes. My area is poor in parts but there is certain bits with rich families and the other surrounding areas.

Hand washing? But wouldn't it be better if you handwash actual clothes rather than uniforms? Clothes certainly look better than uniforms when handwashed.

Yes they could trigger it as well, but if you are also wearing clothes you would, lets say wear when sitting about the house/going out and having fun you may identify them with doing nothing. You will always have the feeling of your clothes on you while in school. I will have to admit that it would vary with different people since not everyone is the same, but with a uniform you are covering all bases.

"The feeling of your clothes on when you're going to school?" I can use the same argument for backpacks. You will always have the feeling of backpacks on your back and you will always identify a backpack with school way more than you could identify an uniform.

 

[El Poncho]

Out of the building in the playground there is generally no teachers, maybe one or two passing by every 10minutes.(This is my school, since I have been to no other school I cannot base it on anything else)

Then your school was a bad school. What sort of teacher leaves teens and children unsupervised during recess? Isn't it obvious that the majority of accidents happen during recess?

I can't deny that, but clothes are more in the open, not everyone brings their gadgets to school, their clothes may be dirty but they could hand wash them if things got desperate where as at the time they may not be able to buy new clothes. My area is poor in parts but there is certain bits with rich families and the other surrounding areas.

Hand washing? But wouldn't it be better if you handwash actual clothes rather than uniforms? Clothes certainly look better than uniforms when handwashed.

Yes they could trigger it as well, but if you are also wearing clothes you would, lets say wear when sitting about the house/going out and having fun you may identify them with doing nothing. You will always have the feeling of your clothes on you while in school. I will have to admit that it would vary with different people since not everyone is the same, but with a uniform you are covering all bases.

"The feeling of your clothes on when you're going to school?" I can use the same argument for backpacks. You will always have the feeling of backpacks on your back and you will always identify a backpack with school way more than you could identify an uniform.

1. They probably expect the pupils to behave since they are in secondary school now, they supervise inside, just not outside.

2. Uniforms look the same, even if you change into a different white shirt it's still a white shirt where as if you wash a t-shirt, it will still have the same writing/logo or whatever it has on it, so you could tell it is the same as the day before.

3. Well, I take my bag off when I am in class, which is when I am suppose to be working.

 

[Ham_authority95]

Since I live in the U.S, I've never worn a uniform.

I probably wouldn't care if I had to unless they cost a lot, though.
[small]the girls would look mighty fine too...[/small]

 

[Tommy T.]

Finfag here and I wish we had to wear a uniform. Would be sweeeeet. Too many times I've seen people getting shat on because they wear certain shoes or whatnot. Fucking stupid.

 

[Penguinness]

School is all about obeying, it's when you get to sixth-form/college then university that education comes into it. So uniforms will stay, for most places.

 

[newfiegirl 110]

I attended Catholic schools all through high school. K-7 we had to wear a green tunic with white long sleeved blouse. Grade 8 it was grey pants or skirt with white collared shirt under a green and gold sweater. 9-12 we had no dress code and although it was great to be able to choose what to wear, we still had specific rules to obey. All in all though, if I had kids, I think I'd prefer a school with uniforms. Pass the misery on for another generation Sue me...lol

 

[PAGEToap44]

Yeah, private school, so uniforms. No ties though, which is nice. However... bright red blazers.