Schools begin banning teachers from using red ink

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Trippy Turtle

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Lukeje

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I thought I'd seen that article before. Why are you linking to a three year old article from the Daily Mail?
 

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Red Ink may not be a barrier to your personal learning, but it can be a barrier to the learning of a significant minority. As the son of a SENCO (special educational needs coordinator) I've spent a good period of my life learning the "dos and donts" of making learning accessible to certain students. I know that to some it sounds silly, but children on the Autistic Spectrum are more likely to be put off by red ink in marking - and when a child on the Autistic Spectrum is put off something, it is hard to get them to continue. This may sound silly for 99% of the population in a school, but its kind of necessary, as its more likely to help those students who need help the most.
 

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Well. Not surprising to see they have found an easy solution to a way more complicated problem. "It's the color of the pens," they say, "just change that, and our teachers won't be forced to do a better job."

Of course that's stupid. There's a few other words for it, but stupid should do for now.

After all, the issue is much more complicated than this makes it seem. What needs to be done is establish a role of teachers as "partners" of students, working together to get the students through class with good marks and, especially, good skills. Teachers must be selected with great care and re-evaluated every few years to ensure that they still have the motivation to pass on to students. If they don't - well, how about a nice job in the school bureaucracy then?
I mean, let's not forget - this is the basic school level we are talking about. A phase in life where students still have the luxury of only having to listen and do their homework - as opposed to uni, where you have no one to kick you if you happen to be slacking off.
 

mrF00bar

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This is just pathetic. Soon teachers will be banned from teaching a subject if the students prefer to watch TV instead.
 

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ultimateownage said:
This is a schooling system which lowers how well you need to do to get a good grade every year to make us sound cleverer. I still think it's better than the American schooling system though.

You're making a fuss out of nothing. It's not really going to change anything, and if they do have to change ink colour then there are plenty of other bold colours.
The irony of this is the US goes to the opposite extreme; here, we keep raising the standardized test scores needed to pass, in what many have seen as an attempt to fail more students and get more money into the hands of private schools. In Florida, at least, this really was the initial goal of the FCAT; students at failing schools could get state covered tuition to a private school. This was struck down as a violation of the state's constitution, though (in the Florida state constitution, the separation of church and state is much clearer than it is in the national one. It's explicitly unconstitutional for the state to fund a religious institution -- which is exactly what most American private schools are.)
 

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We always had everything color-coded. Red was for grammatical or spelling errors, green was for suggestions on sentence restructuring, and blue was for general notes. There's nothing wrong with using the color red, and there's nothing wrong with not using it.
 

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bleachigo10 said:
It's at times like this I wish I had the "I don't want to live on this planet anymore" image.


Just for you.

Also, I completely agree. This is more than a bit ridiculous.
 

theheroofaction

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Old news dude, Surprisingly true for the daily mail though.

But yeah, here's the difference it made: Absolutely Jack shit.
 

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Rin Little said:
They say the red ink is "demoralizing to students" and "making them do worse in school."
...Because we live in such wonderful, peaceful world, where no stress is required to live a successful life.
 

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I.... don't see the problem with this. I honestly don't. Red ink is used for Fear factor. Red is the color of danger after all. That's the only reason its used. It says: "You fucked up son. You fucked up bad. Now I'm gonna fuck you up!".

It's a classic remnant of the traditional/old-fashioned education system (there's a word for that, I'm sure); the system that scoffs at modern teaching practices like peer-discussion based education and gamification of education. It's a 500 year old practice that's designed to embarrass kids for their mistakes instead of helping them learn from their mistakes.

What I'm trying to say is, traditional/old-fashioned education sucks, in my opinion at least. If they have any kind of reason to believe that getting rid of red ink will help kids feel more attached to schoolwork, and less like a slave of the educational system: Fucking, TRY that shit OUT! Experiment until you find a definitive answer, or something close to that. If it works out: FANTASTIC! We just evolved a little bit as a sapient race.

Also, I don't know if I should be disappointed that so many of you sound like bitter old coots yelling "Those darn kids! We're making them soft! In my day, the teacher used to get out the red pen.....and beat the ever-loving FUCK out of us!! They deserve the same, not better!"
But what do you think happens in the real world when someone fucks up?

Coddling children and pretending that everything is okay and even their mistakes are okay is bullshit. They will grow up to be over sensitive, selfish and incredibly depressed when something in life actually confronts them.

My at my son's preschool pass the parcel now has a present every layer in the packaging. When I was a kid, there was just few presents and not everyone got one. It taught you that you win some and you lose some in life. Nothing is fair, so don't expect life to be. It is very small but very effective conditioning for the life ahead of them.

If these kids are crying over red ink, they're very likely going to turn out to be worthless man-children. You coddle something and it expects to be coddled. You can't get anywhere in life like that, unless you're incredibly lucky.
 

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Really? I mean REALLY? REALLY REALLY?

are they making a issue about THE COLOR OF THE FUCKING INK NOW?

They aren't even trying anymore. I can think of loads of reasons why students are performing worse over the years, but the color of the bloody ink is so far on the bottom of the list it can wave to the first circle of hell.
 

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llubtoille said:
Crank out the pretty green pens imo!
Mmm, if all my errors came back in glitter green, I'd make more mistakes me thinks.
I totally read this as "Crank out the pretty green penis" the first time I glanced at it.

I chuckled, hard.
 

thelastnomad

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I'm a teacher in New Zealand - this was bleated about in general a few years back. No one really cared, and too be honest, I just mark with whatever coloured pen I have close and isn't the same as the kids work.

Althought, big red crosses are fun :D
 

willsham45

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ye heard this one before it is stupid. red ink stands out and is generally easier to read than green and the like...why do people care about it upsetting children...real life is upsetting have these people not seen that. or are kids lives meant to be a wonderful pleasant thing so when they leave school the contrast is so great the kids heads explode.
and what is stopping green and other colours beaning banned for they could now be seed as negative.
 

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Red is clear. Red means stop, danger, or beef if it's Oxo. Green means continue, this is ok, or vegetable. I will not teach vegetables.
That is going in my list of favourite quotes. Best thing I have read all month.

On topic, shouldn't schools maybe spend less time worrying about upsetting children with ink and more time trying to stop them getting the shit kicked out of them for being 'a dickhead with a queer haircut'?

For anyone who's curious, I did not have a pleasant time at school.
 

Ulquiorra4sama

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I read that as "Pointing our scholarly mistakes puts a downer on the mood of students".

I would think the colour was picked because it highlights the points you should take a second look at.
 

Asuka Soryu

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Damn you red ink! How dare you demonize the children! You monster of a coloured ink! Go back to the hell you arrised from!

For you shall not pass!