Sega Does What Nintendon't

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Sega's good characters are all niche as heck, but that doesn't mean they aren't out there!

I despise the very concept of amiibos, but release a kazuma kiryuu or shinobi one, and watch me pawn my vital organs to obtain it!
 

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"Sega does what Nintendon't."
What, release broken, unfinished games that make them look horribly unprofessional and embarrass the gaming community?
 

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Sega could still do that... if they want to go the Skylanders/Disney Infinity route because just going the amiibo route would be limiting to a gaming company without a console of their own anymore, you know?

Other than that, when the next Sega tennis game gonna come out? Or are they going to make a Sega Fiesta game, of sorts?
 

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Make more dank memes and Grey will have to go to the hospital for all the ulcers. You wouldn't want that to happen, right?
 

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This is "literally" the same afterthought as the last time!
Anyway...
I don't thing the number of child-friendly/nostalgia bait mascots you have under your belt really represent anything. And if it does, it puts to show the way Nintendo's marketing operate...
Rather than bragging its own technical prowess, or using mass Hypnosis.... "cough"
It tries its best to strum your heart strings.
 

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Imperioratorex Caprae said:
Lightknight said:
To be fair to Sega, a lot of their best IPs are now owned by 2kgames.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sega_video_game_franchises

Bayonetta
Panzer Dragoon

Um...

Ok, I think I started out trying to make a point of my own and only ended up proving these guys right. While Sega did have some great franchizes they didn't really focus on recognizable or recurring protagonists in most of their games. I mean, I loved Panzer Dragoon and Valkyrie Chronicles but a recognizable character? not really.
TBH I may have bought SEGA initially for Sonic (well my parents bought it...) But what made me love it wasn't the characters, it was the games. Shadowrun, Castlevania: Bloodlines, Wolverine Adamantium Rage, X-Men/X-Men 2, Shenmue, UFC (Dreamcast version was the best technical fighting game to date IMO), Crazy Taxi... I can keep listing games SEGA made me love over Nintendo, despite being a huge Nintendo fan and cut my teeth on the NES. Its only when the Saturn came out that I lost faith, Dreamcast was amazing and so criminally underrated (I'll stop there because we've heard all the arguments I'm sure by this point why Dreamcast had so much potential to whip the PS2's ass).
This is a mistake many people keep making. The Dreamcast didn't kill Sega. The Saturn did. It lost nearly all of their market share in one generation and alienated all of the retailers it didn't let carry its console for the surprise release they tried to pull off. The Dreamcast actually regained a bit but the PS2's lineup was just too good. I know the dreamcast had some good ones but the PS2's launch lineup was massive by comparison.

I wish people would start realizing that the Saturn killed Sega, not the Dreamcast.
 

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RealRT said:
>Sega couldn't scrape enough characters for a semi-decent kart racer

And yet made two really great ones. Without even using a host of classic characters that fans wanted them to use like Axel Stone, Blaze Fielding, Sketch Turner or Vectorman.
I say this as someone who's played video games for the last 20+ years and with zero irony or insincerity... I haven't the foggiest clue as to who any of those people are.
 

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Lightknight said:
This is a mistake many people keep making. The Dreamcast didn't kill Sega. The Saturn did. It lost nearly all of their market share in one generation and alienated all of the retailers it didn't let carry its console for the surprise release they tried to pull off. The Dreamcast actually regained a bit but the PS2's lineup was just too good. I know the dreamcast had some good ones but the PS2's launch lineup was massive by comparison.

I wish people would start realizing that the Saturn killed Sega, not the Dreamcast.
I know the Saturn was the reason. I was saying that the potential in the Dreamcast was huge but it fell short of the mark because of 3rd-party abandonment due to the Saturn. Had there been better support, the DC could easily have outclassed the PS2 with what it could handle. The console market might be a hell of a lot different had the tides shifted in SEGA's favor and the Saturn had not crapped on everything the Genesis generation had built for SEGA.
They fucked up and not even the potential within the Dreamcast could save them and its sad. Its why I've not bothered with 90% of SEGA titles because I still harbor the resentment for the Saturn days. I was an early adopter and I regretted the buy heavily. Thankfully I had the N64 to drown my sorrows like fine vodka.
 

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I totally forgot SEGA had a kart-racing game with Sonic characters in it. I remember them having way more original IP's than that; enough to have a Smash Brothers-style fighting game!
Wait, Sonic IS in a Smash Brothers game, IIRC.
 

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SweetShark said:
RJ 17 said:
I love the fight breaking out in the first panel. :3

Also I literally know a hundred people who flip right the fuck out over the use of the word "literally".

SweetShark said:
I don't get the joke.....
What is the point with the Metal Sonic?
The joke is that the only recognizable Sega characters - if Sega were to start making Amiibo-like figures - would all be Sonic characters.
Not true. Sonic characters is the only well-known franchise which milk all the time. Sega have many recognizable games.
Shinobi, Shenmue, Golden Axe, Jet Set Radio, Virtual Fighters, etc.
Well there you go, I have no idea who any of those characters would be. But I'm familiar with Link, Zelda and Ganon, even though I've never played a Legend of Zelda game in my life - or a Nintendo game since the SNES, for that matter.
 

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I think the problem would be more that a lot of Sega's franchises aren't exactly child-friendly, and those kind of games seem more interested in focusing on a younger audience...
 

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Hey fuck you Grey, Sonic and All Stars Racing Transformed may have a shitty title but it is a great racing game.
 

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Regardless of what series everyone wants Sega to bring back, I think we can all agree on one thing.

That Sega needs to stop making Sonic games FFS.
 

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Something Amyss said:
The Great JT said:
Hey, I would kill for a Vyse Amiibo.
I now want a Cupil Amiibo. Dammit, I didn't know I wanted this, but now I do.
An Ulala, NiGHTS and Beat amiibo is all I want...

ya ya ya ya ya.
 

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Oh my god when people use "meme" the wrong way. If it's a picture with words on it, it's totally a meme.
I want to correct people on this shit so bad, but then I'm the one that comes out of it looking like a jackass. I hope people just get past this in general so I don't go insane.
 

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Johnny Novgorod said:
SweetShark said:
RJ 17 said:
I love the fight breaking out in the first panel. :3

Also I literally know a hundred people who flip right the fuck out over the use of the word "literally".

SweetShark said:
I don't get the joke.....
What is the point with the Metal Sonic?
The joke is that the only recognizable Sega characters - if Sega were to start making Amiibo-like figures - would all be Sonic characters.
Not true. Sonic characters is the only well-known franchise which milk all the time. Sega have many recognizable games.
Shinobi, Shenmue, Golden Axe, Jet Set Radio, Virtual Fighters, etc.
Well there you go, I have no idea who any of those characters would be. But I'm familiar with Link, Zelda and Ganon, even though I've never played a Legend of Zelda game in my life - or a Nintendo game since the SNES, for that matter.
That's pretty anecdotal though. The Sega Genisis and SNES actually did sell similar numbers and that's the era where the bulk of Sega's classics franchises rose into prominence.

Also keep in mind that back then, Sega had a much better relationship with a more varied amount of 3rd party developers and publishers, something Nintendo has always struggled with, so though you may not know games like Shining Force and Phantasy Star, a hell of a lot of people do. I'd argue Sega has many more known franchises than Nintendo.

OP:What really cracks me up about this comic is the fact that Mario Kart is a one franchise Kart Racer.
 

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AzrealMaximillion said:
Johnny Novgorod said:
SweetShark said:
RJ 17 said:
I love the fight breaking out in the first panel. :3

Also I literally know a hundred people who flip right the fuck out over the use of the word "literally".

SweetShark said:
I don't get the joke.....
What is the point with the Metal Sonic?
The joke is that the only recognizable Sega characters - if Sega were to start making Amiibo-like figures - would all be Sonic characters.
Not true. Sonic characters is the only well-known franchise which milk all the time. Sega have many recognizable games.
Shinobi, Shenmue, Golden Axe, Jet Set Radio, Virtual Fighters, etc.
Well there you go, I have no idea who any of those characters would be. But I'm familiar with Link, Zelda and Ganon, even though I've never played a Legend of Zelda game in my life - or a Nintendo game since the SNES, for that matter.
That's pretty anecdotal though. The Sega Genisis and SNES actually did sell similar numbers and that's the era where the bulk of Sega's classics franchises rose into prominence.
That's the thing, they belong to that one era. With the exception of Sonic, Sega's characters never achieved the staying power of Mario, Link, DK, Samus or Kirby. And even Sonic is usually associated with that dated 90s "too cool for school" attitude everybody mocks him for. No other characters are as timeless as Mario or Link, if only because they never grew an actual personality.

Also keep in mind that back then, Sega had a much better relationship with a more varied amount of 3rd party developers and publishers, something Nintendo has always struggled with, so though you may not know games like Shining Force and Phantasy Star, a hell of a lot of people do.
Not nearly enough, I'm sure.