Sega President Admits it Betrayed Fan's Trust, Must Make Quality Games

[teh_Canape]

And whatever you do stay the FUCK away from Atlus. Just let them do their thing and the money will flow...speaking of which, uh Atlus? Persona 5 was supposed to come out sometime this year? Hello?

but right when they hired them they said that atlus would remain as it was, that they wouldn't meddle with how they do things
also P5 was said to come out at the end of the year, I think
something like between november and december

 

[Erttheking]

And whatever you do stay the FUCK away from Atlus. Just let them do their thing and the money will flow...speaking of which, uh Atlus? Persona 5 was supposed to come out sometime this year? Hello?

but right when they hired them they said that atlus would remain as it was, that they wouldn't meddle with how they do things
also P5 was said to come out at the end of the year, I think
something like between november and december

Well...I don't trust them. Pretty much no AAA publisher has my trust nowadays. So I go by actions, not words.

 

[jayzz911]

Sega, by now the only thing that can earn my forgiveness is porting Bayonetta 2 to real platforms, but we all know that ain't going to happen.

Well that would be because its completely out of their control as Bayonetta 2 was published by Nintendo and not Sega, you might as well blame Sega for Halo not being on the playstation.

Also how is the Wii U not a "real console"?

At the moment is probably got the best games out there with Bayonetta 2, Wind Waker, Mario Kart, Splatoon, Zombie U, Super Smash Bros, Highrule Warriors and Monster Hunter.

They still own the IP, so presumably they own at least some rights to the game as well.

How? Well, it's weak, has no good first party games, horrible support from third party publishers and is at death's door what's with an actual 8th Gen Nintendo console around the corner. Bayonetta 2 is, in my opinion, the only game it's got going for it.

I will grant you it's weak (still better at 1080p 60fps judging by the games though) but it has no good first party games? The Wiiu's first party line up literally poops all over the Xbone and PS4's first party line up. So yes a weaker console performing better and having a much stronger lineup than the two stronger consoles. It might be selling less but this is a console generation based on hype not actually on good games. Sadly.
Sincerely
A PC gamer.

 

[Nathan Josephs]

god im sick of this mentality. "japanese games" "western games" its all crap. there are only GOOD games and BAD games. good games will sell.

 

[Dragonlayer]

Can I get a new game in the Canvas Engine used for Valkyria Chronicles. Either a proper sequel to VC or something new is fine.

Having seriously gotten into Valkyria Chronicles as of late - leaving none more surprised than myself - I heartily echo this sentiment and also want Western, Steam based releases of the second and third games. Please!

OT

You know, if someone muses something that implies they are pondering intelligently, not coming out with "Gee, people like fings wot are good and not bad! But we make bad so got no money! Want money make good!"

 

[BX3]

"We just found out that going for quality instead of meeting deadlines is the way to go."

Heh, heh, heh, no they didn't. They knew the whole time, were banking on getting by with their current model and hoping that no one would notice. Satomi's throwing his hand up and saying "wha?! People buy good stuff?" as a way to come off as ignorant, because people are more willing to forgive if it turns out that you just didn't know any better.

Gimme dat Valkyria sequel! gimme dat Jet Set sequel! How about another Rhythm Thief? That was fun. hell, make ST get off their butts and get Sanic away former developers of Playstation franchises. Only when these or similar qualities are met will the audience who's trust you betrayed buy into your stuff again. We gamers are nothing if not a bitter bunch.

 

[Baresark]

It would have to be a pretty damn big announcement for me to care. I wouldn't mind a new Shining game here in the States.

 

[RealRT]

Sega, by now the only thing that can earn my forgiveness is porting Bayonetta 2 to real platforms, but we all know that ain't going to happen.

Well that would be because its completely out of their control as Bayonetta 2 was published by Nintendo and not Sega, you might as well blame Sega for Halo not being on the playstation.

Also how is the Wii U not a "real console"?

At the moment is probably got the best games out there with Bayonetta 2, Wind Waker, Mario Kart, Splatoon, Zombie U, Super Smash Bros, Highrule Warriors and Monster Hunter.

They still own the IP, so presumably they own at least some rights to the game as well.

How? Well, it's weak, has no good first party games, horrible support from third party publishers and is at death's door what's with an actual 8th Gen Nintendo console around the corner. Bayonetta 2 is, in my opinion, the only game it's got going for it.

I will grant you it's weak (still better at 1080p 60fps judging by the games though) but it has no good first party games? The Wiiu's first party line up literally poops all over the Xbone and PS4's first party line up. So yes a weaker console performing better and having a much stronger lineup than the two stronger consoles. It might be selling less but this is a console generation based on hype not actually on good games. Sadly.
Sincerely
A PC gamer.

If by "poops" you mean it's shit, then yeah, it sure is.
I never considered Nintendo franchises to be sacred cows - quite the opposite. So to me Wii U has no redeeming features.

 

[Scars Unseen]

Is it just me or are we seeing a lot of "Yes we fucked up" lately?

It seems that some people in the games industry have leveled up in Skill: Obvious.

 

[Something Amyss]

Everyone's eating crow of late. It's good PR, but we've been here before.

 

[bat32391]

As always talk is cheap, I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[mysecondlife]

HAHAHA, "If we can make a product with proper quality..."

I... kinda hate Sega now. I didn't before this thread, I was indifferent. But what assholes? They know they're not putting out a quality product and it's only just now occurring to them that a good product may sell better than the shit they've been pumping out?

Wow. Someone needs to go back to business school. Step one on the flow chart is "Have a product or service people want to buy".

I just... can't believe this insight into their business strategy. That it's literally, "Hey, what if we made a good game?" That's ridiculous. Sega deserves to be where they are and now I have to go through life repressing the urge to find their corporate board and punching them in the balls to reduce their inbred continuance in society if this is honestly the first time they've seriously considered making product worth buying...

I think you should reserve your hatred for Sega until they release another crappy game. If they get their act together, turn around and actually make a good game, that should be commended.

But then again, I've never been screwed over by buying its games.

 

[Dragonpit]

Sega, by now the only thing that can earn my forgiveness is porting Bayonetta 2 to real platforms, but we all know that ain't going to happen.

Well that would be because its completely out of their control as Bayonetta 2 was published by Nintendo and not Sega, you might as well blame Sega for Halo not being on the playstation.

Also how is the Wii U not a "real console"?

At the moment is probably got the best games out there with Bayonetta 2, Wind Waker, Mario Kart, Splatoon, Zombie U, Super Smash Bros, Highrule Warriors and Monster Hunter.

They still own the IP, so presumably they own at least some rights to the game as well.

How? Well, it's weak, has no good first party games, horrible support from third party publishers and is at death's door what's with an actual 8th Gen Nintendo console around the corner. Bayonetta 2 is, in my opinion, the only game it's got going for it.

Uh, dude? The only reason why Bayonetta 2 is Wii U only is because Nintendo was the only company willing to make sure there WAS a Bayonetta 2. No one else wanted to put out for it, because they saw it as a venture that was too risky. The fact that it never made it to the 360 or the PS3 or the current gen is NOT Sega's fault.

 

[ckam]

So, does that mean we get to have PSO2 now? No? OK. Never mind.

 

[jayzz911]

Sega, by now the only thing that can earn my forgiveness is porting Bayonetta 2 to real platforms, but we all know that ain't going to happen.

Well that would be because its completely out of their control as Bayonetta 2 was published by Nintendo and not Sega, you might as well blame Sega for Halo not being on the playstation.

Also how is the Wii U not a "real console"?

At the moment is probably got the best games out there with Bayonetta 2, Wind Waker, Mario Kart, Splatoon, Zombie U, Super Smash Bros, Highrule Warriors and Monster Hunter.

They still own the IP, so presumably they own at least some rights to the game as well.

How? Well, it's weak, has no good first party games, horrible support from third party publishers and is at death's door what's with an actual 8th Gen Nintendo console around the corner. Bayonetta 2 is, in my opinion, the only game it's got going for it.

I will grant you it's weak (still better at 1080p 60fps judging by the games though) but it has no good first party games? The Wiiu's first party line up literally poops all over the Xbone and PS4's first party line up. So yes a weaker console performing better and having a much stronger lineup than the two stronger consoles. It might be selling less but this is a console generation based on hype not actually on good games. Sadly.
Sincerely
A PC gamer.

If by "poops" you mean it's shit, then yeah, it sure is.
I never considered Nintendo franchises to be sacred cows - quite the opposite. So to me Wii U has no redeeming features.

You can like or dislike them, that's all your own choice. But tell me what game that is exclusive to the ps4/xbone that isnt a remake or remaster from the last gen am i supposed to look at and go:" wow that is a real quality game" I remember the order 1886,knack which both bombed and i can't remember any for the Xbone. so feel free to enlighten me.

 

[RealRT]

Sega, by now the only thing that can earn my forgiveness is porting Bayonetta 2 to real platforms, but we all know that ain't going to happen.

Well that would be because its completely out of their control as Bayonetta 2 was published by Nintendo and not Sega, you might as well blame Sega for Halo not being on the playstation.

Also how is the Wii U not a "real console"?

At the moment is probably got the best games out there with Bayonetta 2, Wind Waker, Mario Kart, Splatoon, Zombie U, Super Smash Bros, Highrule Warriors and Monster Hunter.

They still own the IP, so presumably they own at least some rights to the game as well.

How? Well, it's weak, has no good first party games, horrible support from third party publishers and is at death's door what's with an actual 8th Gen Nintendo console around the corner. Bayonetta 2 is, in my opinion, the only game it's got going for it.

I will grant you it's weak (still better at 1080p 60fps judging by the games though) but it has no good first party games? The Wiiu's first party line up literally poops all over the Xbone and PS4's first party line up. So yes a weaker console performing better and having a much stronger lineup than the two stronger consoles. It might be selling less but this is a console generation based on hype not actually on good games. Sadly.
Sincerely
A PC gamer.

If by "poops" you mean it's shit, then yeah, it sure is.
I never considered Nintendo franchises to be sacred cows - quite the opposite. So to me Wii U has no redeeming features.

You can like or dislike them, that's all your own choice. But tell me what game that is exclusive to the ps4/xbone that isnt a remake or remaster from the last gen am i supposed to look at and go:" wow that is a real quality game" I remember the order 1886,knack which both bombed and i can't remember any for the Xbone. so feel free to enlighten me.

Infamous: Second Son and the addon, Bloodborne, Guilty Gear Xrd (okay, the last one is semi-cheating, it's PS3/PS4). Now tell me what third-party company still supports Wii U with AAA releases.

 

[RealRT]

Uh, dude? The only reason why Bayonetta 2 is Wii U only is because Nintendo was the only company willing to make sure there WAS a Bayonetta 2. No one else wanted to put out for it, because they saw it as a venture that was too risky. The fact that it never made it to the 360 or the PS3 or the current gen is NOT Sega's fault.

I never said it was. I merely said that the impossible accomplishment of releasing it for real platforms would earn them my forgiveness.