Sega: Sonic Games Don't Suck, You Just Don't Understand Them

[TheKnotAlchemist]

While I have to admit, the article was about Sega saying the 2D Sonic fans are expecting things the 3D games can't deliver, I still think Sega is sidestepping the issue. A good 3D Sonic game CAN be made. Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 proved that. The problem is how glitchy the games are, lack of control, cameras, and some level and gameplay flaws.

I think Sega should face the simple and honest truth. It's not that a decent 3D Sonic game can't be made. It's just the simple fact Sega apparently can't handle making a decent one.

 

[ZombieGenesis]

3D Sonic games WERE good though, so who knows what they're chuffing.
And by 3D Sonic I'm talking about Adventure and Adventure 2, and to a margin, Heroes.
Everything after that hasn't been a Sonic game, because my inner child rejects them.

 

[TheKnotAlchemist]

3D Sonic games WERE good though, so who knows what they're chuffing.
And by 3D Sonic I'm talking about Adventure and Adventure 2, and to a margin, Heroes.
Everything after that hasn't been a Sonic game, because my inner child rejects them.

My thoughts exactly

 

[Breaker deGodot]

Funny, didn't I just hear the exact same argument from Activison? Oh yes, I did!

 

[generalg29]

who gives a shit anymore

 

[zombiejoe]

I enjoyed some of the 3D sonic games.

Sonic Adventure
Sonic Adventure 2
Shadow the Hedgehog

and I guess sonic heros.

 

[James Raynor]

Way to take responsibility for your failures there Sega!

 

[Proarcher]

Was the above post honestly worth a permanent ban? I think he have some trigger happy Moderators on this site...

OT: I wouldn't say that I don't understand them; they're simple not my kind of game and thus I steer clear of them. That said the games I have played involving Sega's little blue ninja were in my opinion lack lustre but again, that's problem just a reflection of them (as stated previously) not being my kind of game.

 

[Optimystic]

Same could be said about any bad game. It's not bad if you were expecting a bad game. That way, you get just what you expected!

It's like they're not even trying anymore... the one way to make better games? Make more games!

This.

Oh, and let's add 100 new characters while we're at it! And swords and werehogs and guns! Because clearly the fans are mistaken on what makes sonic fun for THEM...

 

[ProfessorLayton]

This.

Oh, and let's add 100 new characters while we're at it! And swords and werehogs and guns! Because clearly the fans are mistaken on what makes sonic fun for THEM...

The strangest part is they mentioned all the fans of the 3D Sonic games... no one likes the 3D Sonic games. Sonic Unleashed? 60 on Metacritic. The 2006 Sonic the Hedgehog? 46. Sonic and the Black Knight? 54. There are hundreds of Sonic games and none of them are as good as the 2D ones.

 

[AnonymouZero]

Was the above post honestly worth a permanent ban? I think he have some trigger happy Moderators on this site...

boy... you think? oh you're new here... xD it's called, "i gots nothing to do but mod in my life" times hardcore 10's.

OT: you cannot be serious. games are supposed to entertain, not enrage yourself at crappy gameplay and then give up playing the game altogether. if we don't get them it's cuz they were badly planned/developed.

 

[Icecoldcynic]

anyone else think the title of this article is putting sega in a negative light? this actually sounds reasonable to me.

I agree. It seems the person who wrote the news post is putting words in their mouth. Sorry if you've been quoted on this a ton of times.

 

[jonnosferatu]

This may have already been stated, but:

There is no objective determination of "good" or "bad" beyond the dominant perception. When 90% of the market agree that on a sliding scale the game is at least "Decent" you can say you're making a "good" game. When 90% are saying that the game at least "Needs significant improvement," that's a good sign that you're not.

Our expectations are our own business; you don't get to dictate them. We don't like the games, therefore they are for our purposes bad, and not worth paying for. You will make more money if you find a means of switching back to the style we liked, even if it's still 3D. Case. Fucking. Closed.

 

[ryo02]

maybe sega should pull a bungie and try releasing a beta of some sort to get feedback on the game while they can still fix some of the stuff that isnt recieved all that well.

 

[Twilight_guy]

No the problem is that you cant make a game about mindlessly running through a level anymore because that doesn't qualify as a good game and that's the only thing that the fans ever likied so now sonic is screwed be because they cant evolve the series when everyone hates anything new they put in and they cant just make the old games again. Sonic 4 is basically Sega throwing up its hands and remaking old crap since nobody will accept anything new.

 

[Nouw]

Somtimes, a Publisher just needs to know how and why a game sucks.

 

[Christemo]

problem is, Sega, there aren´t ANY 3d sonic fans outside of Sonic Adventure, you stupid fucks.

 

[gurall200]

Right, because I totally did not have the right expectations going into Sonic The Hedghog for the 360, my expectations were SO OFF, that things such as the impied romance between sonic (a hedgehog) and a human girl just threw me through a loop.

Seriously, Sega do you think we are that stupid, it's a sonic game, we know what to expect, you just can't deliver, we expect sonic to run fast, not to rip off god of war.

 

[dex-dex]

even as a kid i never liked sonic.
I never had a genesis to play the original game or when i did have the right system and game, i found his games boring.
Somethings just don't work in 3D. Sonic is one of those things that does not work in 3D. Sega just needs to accept that make a NEW CHARACTER@!!!