Sega to Drop Games and Employees During Extreme Restructuring
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Forgot about the total war fanbase. I'm pretty sure the total war games have been a bigger success than the sonic games.Fappy said:
I know they mentioned this already, but
IF THE TOTAL WAR SERIES GETS TOUCHED BECAUSE OF THIS, I WILL BLOW SHIT UP.
IF THE TOTAL WAR SERIES GETS TOUCHED BECAUSE OF THIS, I WILL BLOW SHIT UP.
Egh I wouldn't shelve Sonic, It's really tough to let go of a character who practically catapulted you to success at one point, and Colours and Generations were really ... Well good. Not risk takers by any means but definitely the trims of a new Sonic Team dipping their toes into the water and seeing if what they're doing is safe. And well, yep, it is, as long as they let the Happy Tree friends writers write a little more of that dialogue like in colours, anyone griping about those cut scenes can go sit in the corner with their emo-teddy, I thought they were great change in tone. I've missed Sonic and Tails goofing around. Shadow the Hedgehog through to Sonic and the Black Knight era is over and we now need to move on and forget it happened. Preferably with brain soap.
But this was a long time coming. The same as Blizzard, the fat has needed to be trimmed for some time and restructuring is just a part of this, and I hope once the chaos is over with they'll start rebuilding. Once again as someone unemployed I'm really cheesed off for those that have lost their job, but the same my inner objectivity says: "Well... it was probably necessary." There was a unidentifiable tumor at Sega for a while making bad decision after bad decision and this is probably their chemotherapy. I just hope it gives new blood a chance to make the IP they have and will have shine better.
But this was a long time coming. The same as Blizzard, the fat has needed to be trimmed for some time and restructuring is just a part of this, and I hope once the chaos is over with they'll start rebuilding. Once again as someone unemployed I'm really cheesed off for those that have lost their job, but the same my inner objectivity says: "Well... it was probably necessary." There was a unidentifiable tumor at Sega for a while making bad decision after bad decision and this is probably their chemotherapy. I just hope it gives new blood a chance to make the IP they have and will have shine better.
Hopefully we'll still see a sequel to Bayonetta, and HoTD: Overkill(Someday? Maybe? Please? Just for me?), and I'll be sad if I can't get Jet Set Radio for my Xbox; I never did get to play any of those games, not having a Dreamcast or Original Xbox, but they looked like they'd be right up my alley.
Tsk tsk...
When will they get it?
All they need to do is one of or all of the following:
A: Make Sonic adventure 3
B: Re-make Sonic adventure 2/battle and/or port it to xbla/psn
C: make a stand alone chao garden game.
Bam! Instant mass sales. Hell, i'd bet if they so much as said "Sonic adventure 2", their market shares would go up.
Humorous non-joking-seriouslywhydontyouguysdoitalready aside, it sucks that people and the stuff they were working on are being let go.
When will they get it?
All they need to do is one of or all of the following:
A: Make Sonic adventure 3
B: Re-make Sonic adventure 2/battle and/or port it to xbla/psn
C: make a stand alone chao garden game.
Bam! Instant mass sales. Hell, i'd bet if they so much as said "Sonic adventure 2", their market shares would go up.
Humorous non-joking-seriouslywhydontyouguysdoitalready aside, it sucks that people and the stuff they were working on are being let go.
You know what Sega? If you are hurting for money, just cave to the fans already. I know this is strictly against japanese sensibilities but just do it. All anyone wants you to make is a true Sonic squeal. Not a spinoff, not a 3D re-imagining. An actual squeal.
1. Do what Capcom did with Megaman and get the actual instruments and programs you used to make Sonic 3/Knuckles, and on the same engine. Sonic has 100x the fans (which are also 100x the crazy).
2. Release 'FULL GAME' on XBL Live/PSN for $15.
3. ????
4. Profit!
I am not even a sonic fan and I know this. If only you and Square would listen to what your costumers wanted (instead of making small concessions), then both of you would be richer then god right now. RICHER THEN GOD...
1. Do what Capcom did with Megaman and get the actual instruments and programs you used to make Sonic 3/Knuckles, and on the same engine. Sonic has 100x the fans (which are also 100x the crazy).
2. Release 'FULL GAME' on XBL Live/PSN for $15.
3. ????
4. Profit!
I am not even a sonic fan and I know this. If only you and Square would listen to what your costumers wanted (instead of making small concessions), then both of you would be richer then god right now. RICHER THEN GOD...
The only SEGA game I like is the TW series, everything else is just crap that I lost interest in decades ago (sonic). Did they really think they could float on mascots that were around during the Dreamcast? Make some decent games quick SEGA, the Japanese market is already fucked over here in the west.
Whelp, there goes any chance of Valkyria Chronicles 3 ever making it here to the states. Not like there was much of a chance before, but still.
Fuuuuck I forgot SEGA makes Total War. I fucking LOVE Total War. I really hope they make it, because I want far more Total War games.
A lot of good non-AAA titles (in terms of sales, not quality of games, which is usually far superior in Sega's titles) are produced by Sega. Kind of the problem I suppose. Companies can't support themselves unless they're topping the charts. Sega isn't the first and won't be the last to get into trouble because they aren't spending hundreds of millions to make the next shooter clone based around online multiplayer.
Sega, this is why you market games besides Sonic.
Valkyria Chronicles would've done much better if people knew about it.
Valkyria Chronicles would've done much better if people knew about it.
Despite the fact that Yahtzee bashed it (thereby causing 90 percent of the site to hate it, sight unseen), Sonic Generations was a legitimate ray of hope for the franchise.
All they need to do is retool Sonic as the silent retcon 'Classic Sonic' and put him in more 2d/3d action. The 3d sections from Generations are really more like a racing game than a 3d Sonic game (a good thing).
Sega has no hope because of who is running the ship, but Sonic has hope to be good, even though he will never be anything close to a cultural icon again.
All they need to do is retool Sonic as the silent retcon 'Classic Sonic' and put him in more 2d/3d action. The 3d sections from Generations are really more like a racing game than a 3d Sonic game (a good thing).
Sega has no hope because of who is running the ship, but Sonic has hope to be good, even though he will never be anything close to a cultural icon again.
I didn't even need to read the article to predict that this wasn't going to help Sega out much.Mike Kayatta said:
Hell, putting its fate in Sonic is probably going to put a nail in its coffin. Besides Generations and The Dark Brotherhood (by BioWare), I can't think of a single Sonic game that I'd want to actively keep playing that was made in this generation.
Unintentionally hilarious typos aside, you've got a point. Heck, I understand the recent port of Sonic CD involved remaking the engine from scratch, which means they have a classic Sonic accurate engine that runs on modern hardware already. This is one of those "it's obvious enough that I can't believe someone at Sega isn't already working on it" moments. If they make an all new 2D sonic and put it on the Android marketplace, I'd pay $5 or so for it, no problem. Put it on the major DD platforms like you said (including Steam), and they may even get away with $15 a pop.xPixelatedx said:
OT: It really saddens me to see that Sega still hasn't recovered from the mistakes they started making at the tail end of the 16 bit era. This is a company that got its start as a photo booth company whose automatic pictures could be used for ID photos during the reconstruction after World War II[footnote]It was started by an American businessman, believe it or not, and Sega is shorthand for SErvice GAmes[/footnote], and has been around ever since. This is the company that was one of the big boys in console manufacturing all the way through from the third generation to the sixth, and the company that has been an arcade giant for the entire history of the medium. This is also a company that, stupid decisions or not, has never intentionally dicked its customers over, at least not to my knowledge. If they go under while the likes of EA, Activision, and Ubisoft are still raking in millions, there is no justice in the world.
I kind of enjoyed Sonic Generations and Sonic Colors, but really, as big as Sega was back in the day, I think the only things I'm really going to miss are Virtua Fighter and possible future games in the Jet Grind Radio series.
I'm not surprised they're focusing on Sonic, and I know a couple people who are really into Total War, but Football Manager and Aliens? Really, Sega? That's depressing.
I'm not surprised they're focusing on Sonic, and I know a couple people who are really into Total War, but Football Manager and Aliens? Really, Sega? That's depressing.