Seriously, why do some guys pull this shit?

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Ohh so you're not susceptible to reason, you're just relentlessly trying to prove...something, I don't know. I guess you really need this.

For one, if you know full well I didn't in any way mean all, then it isn't all/most is it. It's just: most. The fact that you cannot let slip the fact you tripped up there shows me why you're so butthurt about my post. The funny thing is, I wasn't even claiming what you seem to think I was. You've just got an idea and won't let it out of your head because fuck what I actually say, you must know what I was actually thinking. Well done you fucking mindreader.
Fine whatever, your claim that most men act like that is still unsupported.
And not a single fuck was given that day. I forgot how toxic it was to say anything on The Escapist.
 

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No, I didn't say that. I said you assuming he's a rapist is a bit much.
If it's a bit much, why are you the first person to mention it?

For my part, I assume you form similarly extreme conclusions about lots of guys. Basically, nervous people get "upgraded" to creeps, and actual creeps get "upgraded" to rapists in your mind.
And this is the point where I "upgrade" you to delusional because you're trying to reading things I never actually said and using that to make assumptions as to what I could be thinking.

Or at least, that's the impression I get. This guy is a creep and a loser and the OP is right to not want anything to do with him, as I've said previously on this thread.
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Be very, very clear face to face. I had a female friend like you. I was attracted to her, crushed on her a bit though admittedly not to the extent this guy is with you. I made my feelings clear, face to face. You know what she did? She lead me along. She never gave me a straight answer about how she felt. Not once did she say "no." This went on for about a year. During that time she had three boyfriends, a lot of fuck buddies and she even fucked my best friend.
If any story involving being lead on involves an about of time spanning twelve months during which she's had multiple relationships and sexual partners... I hate to say this...

She wasn't leading you on. You were leading you on. This is ENTIRELY on yourself.


The rest of your post is just more of this self-pitying nonsense, so I'm going to ask you straight out.

Did she, at any time during that year, state that she wanted you as a boyfriend, ask you out, touch your dick, lick your ear, or do anything sexual or romantic as an indication of her desires? No.

Cause [n]THAT IS LEADING SOMEONE ON.[/b]

Fact is, yeah, she might not be brave enough to say 'Look, you're being a bit creepy' or 'Hey, no, nothing is ever going to happen' because maybe she doesn't want to hurt you, especially if you're emotionally vulnerable.

But let's be absolutely clear... unless she is propositioning you then turning you away, she is not actually leading you on. You're just being clingy. There's a huge difference.
 

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Fagotto said:
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A man can only be friends with a woman if he doesn't find her attractive.

Period.
That's utter BS. People like you need to learn that your inability to keep sex out of things doesn't extend to everyone.
It's human nature, people like you need to look at the big picture and realise that sex is a constant, it affects everything humans do.
Your proof is where? You say it's human nature, I say it's you mistaking your own messed up nature for everyone else's

Next time you meet a group of mixed sex friends, why not ask them how many of them have hooked up with each other.
Hahahahaha, none of my female friends have hooked up with my male friends. Furthermore having a few female friends I find attractive puts a big dent in your pseudo-psychology. Also having a friend who has female friends I'm pretty sure he finds attractive puts yet another dent in it.

The truth is that being attracted isn't even an issue a lot of the time, often availability is the only real deciding factor.
Because you say so. As if you have anything to back your word up but your personal experience, when all that suggests is that it's about you and not the world.

I'm not saying its a good thing, scientists could learn a lot about early man by studying groups of friends drinking together.
Yeah, right. Scientists, unlike you, know what they're doing. They don't make stupid tests where they pretend culture doesn't make a difference.

If you did a cross reference of me and my friends when I was a teenager, well it'd look like a game of Kerplunk.
Which points at... A) The whole world being as you say or B) You associating with people who are messed up about sex like you are? I'd say B. Because quite frankly I imagine people like me, who aren't all about sex 24/7 with whatever female they find remotely attractive, are not going to be friends with people like you.
I'm just being honest, which might not be a wise choice on a forum like this... but you are the one calling me out, you are referring to 'people like me', as if somehow my opinion is void because I'm not a typical escapist Aesexual. You have me pegged as some sex pest because of stuff I remotely mentioned I did as a teenager. I'm guessing your teen years have been pretty uneventful so far.

Really though, I am careful about the term 'friend' - see a friend should be someone you are really close to, not just a list on facebook. Have you actually read the OP?, it tends to end badly in every situation I know of, it ends badly in the OP situation, it ended badly for every creep and stalker out there seething at the world. Chemistry always gets in the way, it becomes awkward, are you saying you don't know anyone who has experienced this?

This might be my opinion, but it's just as valid as your trollish garbage you like to post, your opinion that my opinion is worthless, is somehow more valid - just how arrogant are you!.
 

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And he doesn't even have a car? Geez, stay clear, boys without cars might be dangerous.
 

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I had something similar last year at uni. There was a guy who kept following me, he stared at me in class, he barely knew me but apparently was ?madly in love with me? tho I know he'd done this to other girls previoulsy. He whined about everything, kept going on about how his parents don?t hug him, spouted out lovely statements like ?do you ever think about just killing everyone?? and kept pulling the suicide card probably hoping for a pity date. I kept telling him I wasn?t interested but he wouldn?t stop. I supose my mistake was not being a complete dick to him at the start. It got to the point where I was skipping classes just to avoid him and I had to be rude to him and tell to fuck off (which is major to me, I?m only rude to people I know lol) but even that didn?t work and then at the end of the year got he accused of ?leading him on? despite the fact that he kept coming up to me not the other way around, I told him no right of the bat and was as clear as possible that I wasn?t interested and after the first few weeks didn?t even want to talk to him.
Several of my friends have encountered the same sort of thing more than once. Especially ?you lead me on?, apparently in order to not lead a guy on you need to punch him in the face as soon as he opens his mouth or then are you just ?playing hard to get??
BUT guys I know and some of my friends who are bi have also had the same thing from girls. It seems to happen allot. I hope this is only a teenager thing.
 

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So long story short, I've recently started dating a guy who I met and he's awesome. We always enjoy spending time together, we're getting to be very close and we have a lot in common. Everything's going great...

But one of my guy friends is straight-up being an outright ass almost. When I first mentioned that I was dating someone new his first reaction was "I'm happy that you're happy, but I know that I could make you happy too" and launches into this whole sob story about why no one hangs out with him. I'm not very close with this guy at all, but he's constantly telling me how attracted he is to me and all this other shit and he barely even knows me because any time I saw him in person he just sat in a corner and didn't talk to anyone. Just a little bit ago when he was talking to me on IM he mentioned that he was feeling really horny... Why the fuck would I want to know that?! Seriously, this guy doesn't know shit about me and yet he's making all these comments as if he could convince me to dump my boyfriend and instead date him when he doesn't have a real job and no car and constantly whines about crap...

Why do guys pull this shit?!

Edit: Yea I know not all guys are like this, just when some of them do I'm completely unable to grasp as to why they think crap like this will work in their favor.

Edit 2: Thread's done, I deleted the guy from Facebook and am never going to associate with him again. Apparently he pulled shit like this on people before, I just wasn't in the loop to hear about it. The end.
But one of my guy friends + I'm not very close with this guy at all = Im confused as well

Maybe your leading him on by being too nice?
 

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I'm fascinated Fagotto, did you read the OP?, and what advice would you have for her?
 

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Maybe your leading him on by being too nice?
Being nice to someone isn't leading them on. It's being nice to someone.

Leading someone on requires actual flirtation and intention. This bullshit 'leading someone on' crap is self-delusional misogyny that's literally the same logical format as 'she showed her belly so she must want to be raped.'

It's the guy leading himself on with delusions of mediocrity. Nothing more. Stop blaming women for boys' self-inflicted miseries.

Grow. The. Fuck. Up.
 

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DracoSuave said:
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Maybe your leading him on by being too nice?
Being nice to someone isn't leading them on. It's being nice to someone.

Leading someone on requires actual flirtation and intention. This bullshit 'leading someone on' crap is self-delusional misogyny that's literally the same logical format as 'she showed her belly so she must want to be raped.'

It's the guy leading himself on with delusions of mediocrity. Nothing more. Stop blaming women for boys' self-inflicted miseries.

Grow. The. Fuck. Up.
I implied that with too nice
Calm. The. Floop. Down. Child.
 

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CODE-D said:
I implied that with too nice
Calm. The. Floop. Down. Child.
In a thread where people are seriously suggesting that, it's really hard to find the sarcasm.
 

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Hm.. Thought my sarcasm was heavy enough.. Guess not.. Gotta work on that huh? Anyway yes you are right, but at the same time this guy is exhibiting a lot of personality traits that aren't good for ANY kind of relationship. He is super clingy, he has shown that he is unwilling to really accept things for as they are, and right now while he is in the stage of denial he could very well pose some sort of harm to the OP. Maybe not physical harm, but some mental and social issues may very well crop up because of his inability to process a harsh reality.
 

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Ok, you finally answered a straight question Fagotto.
And you're continuing to provide wonderful red herring for third world countries. What a saint.

Now, given all the horse shit you've thrown at me, isn't that last little piece of advice you just gave a bit 2 faced.
Hell no. He earned poor treatment for continuing to be a creep. Me pointing out your horribly logic isn't being a creep, it's being a reasonable human being who realizes that the experiences of one person don't apply to all of the world.

The guy is a worthless piece of shit because he fell for a girl who's out of his league (probably) and it got to him.
Hahahaha. Yeah, sure. No, he's a worthless piece of shit for not quitting his stupid attempts to get her to hook up with him when she has a boyfriend and clearly don't want to hook up with him.

You really are a star aren't you! - a shining example of douchebaggery. I'll save you the dick/asshole/pussy speech from Team America, but why not have a guess at which I am, and which you are.
Well you're the one who is trying to get sympathy for the guy who was being a creep... And you try to pretend all guys are creepy like that, which implies you admit to being creepy like that... And people who are creepy like that aren't the good guys. I think I know.
Hehe, poor guy...
I think that my point is his situation is what often happens when you try to be friends with someone you want more from, and they aren't prepared to give it. Women should be careful about who they let onto their facebook page, I mean there's nothing mentioned about this guy that explains why she's friends with him in the first place.
I know a girl who's 'best friend' for 12 years pulled this sort of stunt, got drunk one night and told her that if they didn't hook up, he was done with her as a friend... that got pretty damn creepy. It's creepier to think about what was going through his mind for 12 years before his implosion. Anyway, I'm detecting more humour in your posts, thanks for that - maybe we should stop farting in this thread.
 

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DracoSuave said:
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No, I didn't say that. I said you assuming he's a rapist is a bit much.
If it's a bit much, why are you the first person to mention it?

For my part, I assume you form similarly extreme conclusions about lots of guys. Basically, nervous people get "upgraded" to creeps, and actual creeps get "upgraded" to rapists in your mind.
And this is the point where I "upgrade" you to delusional because you're trying to reading things I never actually said and using that to make assumptions as to what I could be thinking.
Oh Christ, you're that guy I accidentally included in the quote.. Look, I didn't mean to quote you, I don't know how I got your username in the tag, whatever. I never had any dispute with you, but you keep replying and it's hard to keep track of who's who.

Please, it'll just be easier if you stop responding, I have no argument with you that I know of. I didn't mean to quote your post, and frankly I still haven't even bothered to read it because I had no interest in it and still don't. The person I did mean to quote was being sarcastic anyway.

Next time someone accidentally quotes you for a post you didn't write, try not to keep replying to them, because it keeps making you look like the person they meant to quote, and they're going to keep arguing with you about posts you didn't make.
 

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Hmm. I thought my sarcasm was thick enough in that post.. Guess not.. Gonna have to work on that huh??

Now while I agree that guys are often given the harsh end of the stick at times from girls. This isn't one of those times, this man is exhibiting a lot of signs that he is bad for ANY kind of relationship, even friendship. He is being super clingy, latching onto someone he hardly knows and professing a love that hasn't had any time to manifest itself. On top of that he is not respecting the fact that she doesn't feel the same way and is pushing the issue. If he keeps going down this path then it could be rather problematic for the both of them.. And potentially dangerous depending just how enamored he is with the fantasy he has cocked up in his head.
 

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Next time someone accidentally quotes you for a post you didn't write, try not to keep replying to them, because it keeps making you look like the person they meant to quote, and they're going to keep arguing with you about posts you didn't make.
Zarrite, shit happens dog.

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