Severe musical misconceptions

[ZeLunarian]

Everywhere you look genre's of music are being minced, mixed and invented around every corner.
Best and only way IMO to find out about music is to:
A, Word of mouth - peers are good for this kinda thing (so are the escapists <3)
B, Stumble and sample anything and everything coming your way. Keep what you like.
C, NOT being lead by the people selling it. Don't take their word that this is their BEST ALBUM EVER.

... ... or whatever works for you.

I like to keep things simple with genre's. I personally see two, GOOD and BAD. But then again that doesn't help things when talking music with other people.

 

[Bored Tomatoe]

By classing "Metal" as "Music". Its not, Its just noise.

I completely agree. At least bands like Iron maiden had a rift. Todays metal is just yelling and the same note strummed 50 times with a double bass peddle hit every second.

I love how everyone assumes that all metal sounds like Deathcore...

 

[Small Waves]

Oh, and I despise how the term "hardcore" was co-opted by electronic music. That is not hardcore. The term was coined to describe a type of punk music, and thats all it should describe.

I thought the correct term was "Hardstyle" for techno, and "Hardcore" for metal.

Hardstyle is a subgenre of hardcore techno, mainly influenced by gabba, jumpstyle, and trance.

 

[mcgroobber]

i about once every month get month about how slipknot is definitely not death metal

 

[MysticnFm]

Oh, and I despise how the term "hardcore" was co-opted by electronic music. That is not hardcore. The term was coined to describe a type of punk music, and thats all it should describe.

I thought the correct term was "Hardstyle" for techno, and "Hardcore" for metal.

Hardstyle is a subgenre of hardcore techno, mainly influenced by gabba, jumpstyle, and trance.

Oh right, cool. I learned something today.

 

[ilion]

What about Classical music? It should just be Western Art Music... ( actually wikipedia agrees hum...), just because classical encompasses so many things from history to other forms of art. "Classical" just pervades with that WRONG boring felling, whenever I try to discuss music in general.

 

[Outright Villainy]

By classing "Metal" as "Music". Its not, Its just noise.

Although even i know Nickelback isnt Metal.

EDIT: Seeing as how i seem to have divided opinion with my post - Ill elaborate - I dont class screaming or throating gravelling as music.

Oho, that's funny. Not like there's vast and varying types of metal or anything.
Nope, outright dismissal. That's fantastic. *rolls eyes*

 

[Skooterz]

By Metal they usually mean "Hard Rock / Light Metal".
By which they mean anything from Green Day to Slayer.

OT: Lostprophets' Liberation Transmission is NOT Metal, Windows Media Player. Now stop being silly.

Green Day? Metal? Wut.

By classing "Metal" as "Music". Its not, Its just noise.

Although even i know Nickelback isnt Metal.

EDIT: Seeing as how i seem to have divided opinion with my post - Ill elaborate - I dont class screaming or throating gravelling as music.

this is a misconception most people have of metal- it's not all screaming and gravelly voices as you seem to think. That's just a couple of subgenres. Besides, just because you dislike a certain kind of music personally doesn't magically make it "not music". I hate rap, hip hop, country- but that doesn't mean that those genres aren't music.

 

[GooBeyond]

hope this helps the Metal argument:

Spoiler: IMAGE

 

[alwaysrockon]

There is an amazing misconception amongst my teenage peers that the Beatles are not the greatest band of all time.

I beleive that "The Band" takes that spot. You really can't beat 'em.

And as for rap...seriously???
Listen to these five songs, that is all I ask

1) That Night by Atmosphere
2) Night Light by Aesop Rock
3) Leavin the Past by Immortal Technique
4) Whats Beef by Black Star
5) Dance With the Devil by Immortal Technique

Then try to tell me that rap is crap. Just try to say that rap is not music or its only about guns and bitches.

 

[Ham_authority95]

In before the whining elitisism...

Not to flame, but you realized you fulfilled that role before you could type out the disclaimer, right? "People who have opinions on this aren't qualified. I have a definitive opinion on that fact."

Firstly, I don't see the point of this thread. Music has become very varied these days. Many bands will incorporate elements that could, for someone's intents and purposes, qualify them as metal. Take Alexisonfire, Blink-182, or Billy Talent, which have been labeled very different things.

Secondly, the old "my music is better than your music" debate needs to be nailed inside a box and subjected to the hottest fires on Earth. People like different sounds. Some people go insane for technicality and theory (see Protest the Hero, Avenged Sevenfold, or any other metalcore band), while others prefer a simple bass beat to dance to. I'm pretty sure every Lady Gaga song is no more than 5 beats faster or slower than 120 BPM. To the unthinking, this should not mean that she sucks and deserves to be mindlessly attacked, though I understand that the pubescent mind has certain desires and must be allowed its 'judgmental idiocy' quota.

And finally, stop ragging on metal. If it's not your thing, then don't listen to it. Yes, metal has their cavemen-enthusiasts who strum one night and scream about Satan, just as rap has those artists who insist on demeaning women, and pop has lipsyncing divas whose last names happen to rhyme with 'Tears'. Metal also has bands like Opeth, who emphasize construction over primal growling.

I gotta agree with you man.

Everyone likes different things, so don't hate on Genres that are differet

OT: as for misconceptions, I would have to say the whole "Rockstar-party-all-night-and-get slammed" stereotype of musicians is complete crap.

While it is true for some musicians, most don't get into destructive behaviors like that, or else it will ruin their performance.

 

[mega48man]

AC/DC as heavy metal. i quote Angus Young, lead guitarist, "we've always been good old rock n' roll"

Led Zepplin as Heavy metal. i quote jimmy page, does he need explanation? "i find it offensive to anyone who plays in Led Zepplin to say that the band is heavy metal. two-thirds of our music is acoustic."

Jimi Hendrix as heavy metal. he's straight up physicadellic.

Kid Rock as music. listen to the song 'Sad but True' by Metallica. then listen to 'American badass' by Kid f**king rock. you'll notice how kid rock stole the whole song from metallica and then goes on to rap, HE'S RAPS ABOUT, how he listens to all these good 'american' rock bands...ROCK BANDS.....like AC/DC, led zepplin, the beatles, and the rolling stones plus a few other bands. THOSE BANDS AREN'T EVEN AMERICAN, WHO THE FUCK DOES HE THINK HE IS??? and another thing, if he says he likes the beatles, the rolling stones, and all these other great bands, THEN WHY IN THE NAME OF THE GODS OF ROCK DOES HE FUCKING RAP ABOUT IT??? SERIOUSLY??? DOES ANYONE HAVE AN ANSWER???

by the way, if you look for that american badass song on youtube, you'll notice that there's a lot of "that's metallica's song!" and even the uploader asked everyone to stop bitching about it. well, I started that. when i first saw the video, all the comments were "i love this song!". then i posted my own comments, and i started the flame war on that video. i gotta admit, it's another huge victory for metal on my part.

 

[Deef]

I hate that a lot of my metal bands are classified as Gospel music. Just because the bands are christian, doesn't mean that all their music is about jesus and shit.

 

[claw38]

The biggest misconception is calling rappers talented.
Now I'm not saying all...Jurassic 5, Del tha Funkee Homosapien, etc, etc...some are good.
But seriously..people calling Lil Wayne the voice of our generation?
Oh God..he is the very last person I ever want to represent me in any way!
Almost all rap is talentless spewing that just degrades women and makes everything in life basic..sex, drugs, alcohol..etc.
The point is, rappers aren't talented for anything they do..not at all.

Also, all the disney channel bands/singers (Hannah Montana, Jonas Brothers, etc.) are also terrible..more of an opinion really haha

And finally..country music all sounds the same. This isn't a common misconception..it's a fact. And no country fans have ever been able to differentiate them either..soooooo something's up there haha

 

[Berethond]

This thread makes me cry tears of shame.
A majority of you need to realize that metal is not the best musical genre just because you say it is.

 

[arsenicCatnip]

*snip*

I think the misunderstanding of this one falls on many sides...

For one, the misconception that punk is a genre. It's really not. It was an artistic movement, and it wasn't limited to one sound, or even to being music. Once you consider it as a movement, then yes it's dead, as most movements tend to die. There was no set sound to punk rock, it was all over the place. In fact, if there was any sound that could be said to be even close to universal to the musical aspects of the movement, it was rock and roll. It was all rock and roll, simplified, sped up and distorted.

The bands that play punk today (yes, even the stuff I've been playing for the better part of a decade) is punk revival. It's trying to capture the sound, the spirit and/or the energy of a different time.

But yeah, I agree that catchphrases are silly.

In the words of Billie Joe Armstrong (the lead singer of Green Day) "Punk is dead, and I fucking killed it."

Don't mind me. I find the catchphrase to be silly and ridiculous, but fun nonetheless.

Punk - highly subjective term. No clear consensus has ever been made on what "punk" is, so it's fairly nigh-on impossible to determine if it has "died" or not. Some people say it died as far back as 1977, yet there are still thousands of "punk" bands active around the world, so either punk is what you make it, or someone has obviously slipped up somewhere.

Punk is all what you make of it. Although I'll admit that it seems that the stereotype of "You only need to know three chords to make it as a punk guitarist" holds pretty strong in most of the 'punk', 'punk revival' or 'pop-punk' bands around lately.

For the record, too, J-pop isn't all about anime theme songs or cute guys dressed as goth Lolis. There are a lot of styles beyond visual kei. Pity no one seems to see that.

*shrug* I try not to hold too many pre-conceived ideas about music. If I did, I wouldn't have discovered the wonderful artists that I listen to. (And I have a decently eclectic mixture on my iPod right now)

 

[Delock]

Most common misconception: metal.
Just in general. Some people think it's noise, some people think it's just screaming, some people think it's a type of music from 30 years ago, some people will argue what "True" metal is (though there will be no general agreement because their are 50 F*CKING SUBCATEGORIES FOR A REASON!), some people will try to draw the line between hard rock and it, some people will say it isn't metal if there is any production effects thrown in, some people say it isn't metal if it can't be played well live, some people think it is purely demonic, some people say that the subdivisions shouldn't be considered metal at all, some people think that there is nothing better than it, etc. Etc. ETC!

No matter your opinion, it is wrong according to atleast a thousand other people, and a thousand more agree with you. It's not getting you anywhere and nothing good comes from it so please could we all just shut up about it and move the f*ck on? If you like whatever particular part of it is out there, good for you. But much in the same way that I really don't listen to soulless pop that clogs up the radio station because I actually have music I like instead of complaining, no one is forcing you to listen to the other stuff.

 

[xavix]

"Remember kids, every time you play a nickleback song a llama dies.

Just a note to all you people slagging off rap music
try listening to Flobots and tell me that equals crap."

You sir, deserve a cookie, for beating me to the punch.

Flobots blow every other rap group ever, ever, out of the fucking water and into the stratosphere.

I try not to ever say this, because it makes me sound like a pretentious bastard, but their music really is poetry, if you haven't heard them and you hate on rap, you're missing out.

 

[Purple Shrimp]

People who think the Rolling Stones just ripped off the Beatles for their whole career (they didn't), and people who think that Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band has to be terrible (it isn't) just because it's overrated (it is).

 

[Daniel_Rosamilia]

Another misconception is that rap is good.

As I have heard and stated, music is like chocolate.
It's better without the wrappers.

But, some rap, if listened to properly (lyrics, not the scratchy DJ in the background), can actually be really good. Fort Minor proved that.