Sexual Fantasy vs. Sexual Morality

[lacktheknack]

I've drawn my line, who am I to draw yours?

Don't expect me to encourage you, though.

 

[Worgen]

what 2 or more people and a donkey and a midget want to do behind closed doors is no business of mine

 

[TimeLord]

If it's legal, I'm fine with it.

If it's illegal, you need help and locking up.

 

[AmayaOnnaOtaku]

Every girl I've ever been with has cried out the safeword LONG before I've reached my own theoretical limit (which frankly scares me), so I lost the right to judge ANYONE for their sexual morality.

Sounds like the guys I usually dated. And frankly vanilla sex gets old FAST.

And considering oral sex and anal sex are illegal in VA, I wont even use the laws as my moral guide.

 

[ramboondiea]

BAH! for a man and women to hold hands whilst walking the streets, should be a crime punishable by stoning!

okay i joke, im up for a lot of things but i draw the line and really weird things, so im less vanilla and more strawberry serbert ha

 

[BlueberryMUNCH]

At the end of the day, I myself have done things that I'm sure many of you may deem 'Unacceptable', so I feel that, as long as it's done with consent on all sides of those concerned...there shouldn't really be a line, as such.

Appropriate ages etc considered, obviously...but then, what is the appropriate age for what?

Well, at the risk of me being a hypocrite, I'd say 14.

 

[Jabberwock xeno]

Social norms are BS anyways.

 

[Boris Goodenough]

Wrong. If we all agreed that rape and murder are bad things, rapists and murderers wouldn't exist. So, apparently, at least some people think it's ok.

Also rape and murder aren't a matter of "morality", they're a matter of freedom. One man's freedom ends where another man's freedom begins. So a person's freedom to rape and murder kinda ends when it collides with another person's freedom of not being raped and murdered.

Morality is when people say "I dislike this! EVERYONE should dislike this! And if you don't dislike this, you're wrong!". Some would call that ethnocentrism.

Only psycopaths don't have morality but they can still reason to an approximate, just like the example you gave.
Morality is not universal, it varies but there is a lot of common ground and upon that we build our communities and socities.
It is primarily biological but nuture also more than sets its finger print. It is argued that psycopaths are more or less purely caused by nature and sociopaths are caused by nuture.

 

[Ham_authority95]

I don't care. Do what you want behind closed doors. It isn't like I can or want to stop you...

As long as it's consensual and the intent is honest you can have 5 partners and chain them up for an 8 hour S&M session for all I care...

 

[Caliostro]

Only psycopaths don't have morality but they can still reason to an approximate, just like the example you gave.
Morality is not universal, it varies but there is a lot of common ground and upon that we build our communities and socities.
It is primarily biological but nuture also more than sets its finger print. It is argued that psycopaths are more or less purely caused by nature and sociopaths are caused by nuture.

Nobody has morality. Morality isn't real. It's a concept we invented so we could put a social stranglehold on other people's lives. Morality exists no more than souls, or good and evil.

What you call "morality" are values, which are personal. Morality is an attempt to enforce those personal values.

As for biology, rape and murder are biological. We're hot wired to have sex when we can. Reproduction of the species is our prime directive, even above self-preservation. So there is, in fact, nothing more natural than rape. Before we developed concepts like "freedom" and "justice" rape was pretty standard. Was just the concept of "rape" didn't exist because there was no such a thing as the concept of "consent" either. Murder is just our most extreme response to feeling threatened. Hell, you can still find places in the world that operate like that, sadly.

 

[baddude1337]

I'm personally not into any weird shit. But I mean if some people are into stuff and they want to explore it, they should.

 

[Boris Goodenough]

Nobody has morality. Morality isn't real. It's a concept we invented so we could put a social stranglehold on other people's lives. Morality exists no more than souls, or good and evil.

So you feel the need to rape and murder since you feel a social constrain by other people's "morality"?
If not then it is not as "natural"(I'll use the word common instead) as you say it is, and you share this personal value with most people, and that is what we call morality.

Morality is the common ground of personal views of many people.

And if rape is so natural, why does it not happen all the time with animals? We share common morality traits with many animals, because it is best for the species in most cases.

 

[Irony's Acolyte]

Sure we should have a line. But it should only turn the most depraved and fucked up acts off-limits. Everything else (and that would be alot) would be fine so long as its two consenting people.

First, if everyone involved is ok with it, why should we stop them? Second, why only 2?[/quote]
Well I've got nothing against more than 2 people going at it. Have all the orgies you want, the more the merrier. I just said "two consenting people" because its a common phrase I use for stuff like this. And when I say the most depraved and fucked up acts I generally mean non-consentual stuff like rape and pedophilia. I hesitate to put necrophilia only because while yes only one of them is consenting, the other isn't alive. Its just a dead body. Its like masterbating with a fleshlight. A fleshlight that used to be alive.

 

[JemothSkarii]

I don't REALLY care about what people do with sex; as long as it's with two (or more, personally I think 2 because I'm that romantic type) consenting partners, at least 13 and a reasonable distance apart from each other (about 2 years, but not below when they're 13-14).
Apart from that, and it's not like...Vore, I'm happy

 

[Jonluw]

The only limitation should be that it is consentual. So long as it's consentual, it's all good.

That, and non-lethal. Consensual and non-lethal = five by five.

Actually, I don't mind if consenting people want to kill eachother. I'm for euthanasia and stuff you see.
Unless they want to harm other people. Then that's bad. All parties involved need to consent.

 

[Jonluw]

Sure we should have a line. But it should only turn the most depraved and fucked up acts off-limits. Everything else (and that would be alot) would be fine so long as its two consenting people.

First, if everyone involved is ok with it, why should we stop them? Second, why only 2?

Well I've got nothing against more than 2 people going at it. Have all the orgies you want, the more the merrier. I just said "two consenting people" because its a common phrase I use for stuff like this. And when I say the most depraved and fucked up acts I generally mean non-consentual stuff like rape and pedophilia. I hesitate to put necrophilia only because while yes only one of them is consenting, the other isn't alive. Its just a dead body. Its like masterbating with a fleshlight. A fleshlight that used to be alive.

Spoiler: This is really all I have to say.

 

[Caliostro]

Nobody has morality. Morality isn't real. It's a concept we invented so we could put a social stranglehold on other people's lives. Morality exists no more than souls, or good and evil.

So you feel the need to rape and murder since you feel a social constrain by other people's "morality"?
If not then it is not as "natural"(I'll use the word common instead) as you say it is, and you share this personal value with most people, and that is what we call morality.

Morality is the common ground of personal views of many people.

You're confusing morals and values with morality.

(absurdly example, but follow me here)
Values = I was taught that burgers are bad. So I refuse to eat a McDonalds burger.
Morals = I don't think McDonalds burgers are a good thing. I think they're a terrible thing, so I refuse to eat at McDonalds.

Morality = I don't think McDonalds burger are a good thing, so NOBODY should eat at McDonalds.

And if rape is so natural, why does it not happen all the time with animals? We share common morality traits with many animals, because it is best for the species in most cases.

Because IT DOES.

 

[Caliostro]

Edit: Double posting isn't cool kids. Don't do it. Stay in school.

 

[Jonluw]

The only limitation should be that it is consentual. So long as it's consentual, it's all good.

That, and non-lethal. Consensual and non-lethal = five by five.

Actually, I don't mind if consenting people want to kill eachother. I'm for euthanasia and stuff you see.
Unless they want to harm other people. Then that's bad. All parties involved need to consent.

Ok, fair point. But still, that should be done with a doctor present, not during sex.

Yeah, doctors might be a good idea.

 

[TailsRodrigez]

There was a time when the only real and acceptable form of sex would be your typical vanilla sex between a married man and woman that you see (if you're into voyeurism) in any king sized bed across the land.

Before I answer your question, I would like to point out that so many forms of sex not considered "vanilla" have been around since the beginning of man (and were quite popular in many cultures, such as bestiality, necrophilia, gay/lesbian, orgies, sadism, etc.) and the vanilla type was a result of Judo-Christian beliefs influencing Europe, and therefore, the western world, and really the sexual revolution that took place was simply embracing what western culture repressed and called unacceptable. I don't believe you can draw a line because as the culture will change, so will their views of sex ( i don't think this gives anyone the right to have sex with anyone, like pedophilia or anything).