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You do know that a lot of the people on that list, if not most have more resources than the average person, right?You know what all those people have in common? They're all rich. They have money to hire lawyers and PR firms to help them through that. In addition they're somewhat protected against the "mob" because they don't rely on "the mob" to earn their living.
Indie developers and streamers don't have any of that, which makes them very susceptible to being #Canceled. They rely on their fanbase and the social media ocean to earn their living. If that tide ever turns against them, they're sunk.
This isn't accusing Joe Schmoe the garbage man that works for minimum wage, all these people can afford lawyers and PR, and even if they can't afford PR they have fan-bases that will do free PR for them, so in actuality while it's not the same level of power that someone like Woody Allen, Roman Polansky & Kevin Spacey would have, they do have far more resources than the average person and are therefore more likely to win the cases against these allegations, even if some of them turn out to be true.
So you know let's not pretend these are normal everyday people.
It's not like I instantly believe every accusation but you have to keep in mind that the system isn't really helpful to victims at all, and puts all the burden of proof on them rather than the accuser, the truth of the matter is that I as someone who has been sexually abused in the past, had no way at all I could prove it actually happened, so I had to swallow all my frustrations, depression and humiliation, like what?Precisely. Though even for them even if those rich people manage to be found innocent and their accuser outright admits it's all B.S. that person is going to spend the rest of their lives having to deal with anyone who has ever so much as heard about it treating them like they are the scum of the earth and denying them opportunities they would have had otherwise, even if these people aren't consciously aware of it. Those that don't have money but have accusations against them turned into a media circus end up far far worse off because most of them lose everything in the process of having to fight the accusations.
The thing is these are accusations, NOT convictions and people seem not to or more likely willingly ignore the fact that the former is NOT the latter. The problem is people fail to recognize that until a court of law has been provided with actual evidence and the accused convicted accusations mean precisely jack whether it's 1 or 10,000. Regardless, there is no reason whatsoever that these accusations should be public knowledge. That just makes things bad even for the innocent, gives motivation for people to accuse each other for the fame it gives, and creates bias in the jury and court in general. It doesn't do a thing to ensure justice is carried out.
A woman who has been harmed by a man should speak out against them and be heard... to and by the police and the courts only and only if they possess actual proof. Innocent men should have the right to be able to live their lives and NOT have to worry about having their lives ruined by any random woman who decides for one reason or another to decide to accuse them. If a man actually did do something fine, the courts will handle it, but lie or truth accusations should mean nothing until proven in a court of law and nothing else.
Irrelevant. It doesn't matter who comes out on top historically, what matters is the truth. If the man harmed a woman and the latter can prove it in the court of law he goes to jail, is sued for everything he has, or whatever measures the court decides is best. If a woman accuses a man of harming her and he didn't, it should be disproved and then resolved through a defamation lawsuit. In either case the public like you or me shouldn't hear about it until it is over if ever, it is not any of our business and thus we shouldn't be involved. Saying "historically X" and acting upon it true or not is the basis for some of the most significant evils to have ever occurred on this planet.
I'd rather be objective and defend neither until actual proof is provided and the liar is convicted as a liar or the rapist is convicted as a rapist. Until then I will do what a sensible person would do and assume that the accused and the accuser are both innocent until proven guilty, no matter how many accusations are thrown. I would do that for anyone and I would expect anyone to do that for me if I ever was accused of anything.
I'm supposed to have to decide between accusing someone, fighting a battle I can't win and afterwards being branded a liar?
The truth of the matter is that it's very hard to even accuse someone, not only does it require you to admit something that's horrible and humiliating and makes you feel like a complete idiot because you somehow feel you let it happen, not to mention that after you confess if people believe you still will have to pay the price of having everyone pity you for the rest of your life, so most people just don't bother, because people will make the same tired arguments they've always made "Oh she's probably lying", "She's just exaggerating", "He couldn't possibly do that" and all that bullshit, the truth of the matter is that these assholes are likely to win the court cases even if they are truly guilty, it's the rape convictions have always been and you know everyone waiting for an "objective" judgement will have peace of mind, except not really because they'll accuse the woman of being a lying thot, and now even if she was innocent and a genuine victim she will have to live with that for the rest of her life.
It's all bullshit a lack of conviction doesn't mean objective truth, so in reality someone's life will be ruined and we'll never know if it was the person that deserved it.
So you know you won't get the objective truth, ever.