snowfox said:
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Yes I understand the "Too easy to make a joke out of" was just a joke, which is why I never really addressed it in my previous statement. I never took that personally.. Infact I honestly got a laugh out of it
I apologize if I came off sounding a bit disgruntled, but I guess either it was the way you responded to my original post, or the way the little voice in the back of my head that reads to me when I look at words made it all sound the way it sounded.
I know that no where in your reply did you say I was a homophobe, but like I said previously, it just sounded that it was implied, as it did when I read previous replies to other comments.
I guess seeing this sort of thing done in similar topics, where the person in your shoes was actually
trying to do what I assumed you were doing, I couldn't help but think that I got caught up with yet another person who was out to pinpoint every little detail and flip it around to make the original poster of the comment to be a bad person.
I can see however with this reply that I have mistaken, and I apologize for that.
I am aware that doing everything you said to publish a title is a bit much to ask, but I can't help but wonder "Gee there's got to be some one out there with the interest of game design or film production that's willing to do this.." I mean after all, There is obviously an audience for said game/film, and there's good money to be made. I meant nothing but good things by that, even though my original post didn't end up as I expected.
Film production is what I know best, which is why I slipped out of game mode to the film industry in my examples. I felt it was the best method to give examples of what I was talking about. Though I'm sure you could get by just as easily without them. I just throw them in there regardless of who I'm talking to, because unlike you, 9 times out of 10 others would misinterpret what I meant without them. I had brought up Pyramid Head in the movie, because I recently showed it to my GF. She had asked what that creature was, and why he kept showing up... After explaining to her the significance of Pyramid Heads vital role in Silent Hill 2 and other games... She felt rather confused as to why he appeared in the movie at all... To have her bring up the same question I had of his appearance, being that she is still fresh to the world of Silent hill, (only getting to see SH4 and Shattered memories for now, which she loved to death and wouldn't let me go a day without having a near heart attack playing them for her
.) I felt this was a good example, seeing as how she wasn't part of the core of which you speak of.
I played them for her because for some reason, playing games is rocket science for her for some reason, so most of the time she sits me down to play them for her. Just throwing that out there for no particular reason, lol.
I think a lot of what you said in relation to my response lies under differed opinions. I feel that revealing an element about a character such as sexual preference should contribute to the storyline to help the audience associate better with said character, you feel the opposite. There's nothing wrong with that in my eyes, for we all have differed tastes and ideas of the way things should or could be.
We're all just as confused as you are in terms of their decision for ME. I'm sure however if this was known before the game came out, the developers would have a lot of emails in their inbox regarding the issue.. The problem is, there was no hint that this was going to happen, and their reasoning is left in the dark..
Which is typical for a gaming company, they often keep things in the hush hush so they don't get themselves in trouble in anyway. Like for example: How neither Nintendo of America and Tecmo aren't giving any reason as to why they aren't distributing Fatal Frame 4 to America for instance.. Sure there's a lot of speculation as to why, but nothing is being said by them.
So I guess all we can really hope for is that they see the issue and decide to address it in their next ME. Yes I know it should have been done in this one considering they allowed the option to be a lesbian, but I guess it's too late for that now, the game is out, and unless they decide to throw it in as DLC, I don't think we'll sadly ever see a fix for that.
Although I do agree that the "trials faced by a homosexual" is something that is done to death in films when it shouldn't be. What I meant in my previous statement that there is so much more that can be done besides what you've said in the various clips of my response. There are ways to make a homosexual character in a movie/game look and feel like a normal person like they are in real life without falling back on various default methods that you have described that developers and producers use as a safety net because they are afraid to try anything otherwise... It is this fear alone that we don't see a LOT of things that we do in games, homosexuality being one of them. It's completely and utterly stupid that it's done this way, which is why I suggested that some one from the community should show them how it's done.
The best method is to just agree to disagree, I guess... Seeing as how we both have varied opinions and there's nothing that can really be said to change the opinion of one another. Of course I'm talking about our differed opinions on how homosexuality should be depicted in games and movies. I do want to thank you, however, for not greeting my reasoning behind my opinions with hostility.
Also, I would like to apologize again for going on the defensive in my last post... I've seen some nasty things go down when it came to topics such as this one, so I couldn't help but feel like I was being put on the spot for my first response. It was wrong of me to assume that, and I'm glad that you were able to prove me otherwise with your response.
