Sexualized characters that were done right.

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Ninmecu said:
Clearly our very own Jim Sterling, god bless, constantly displaying lewd acts of depravity in an overtly sexual way while shining upon us the very light our starving souls need to justly smite his enemies. THANK GOD FOR JIM!
Jim Sterling sets an unrealistic expectation for both video games and video game journalists
 

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Silvanus said:
I came into this thread expecting to find about five hundred female examples to one or two male examples. Still looking for that second male example...


It beggars belief that people still argue that sexualisation is even-handed in video games.

EDIT: Oh, there he is! On the third page there's another dude.
This forum has like 80-90% male users. There was an escapist gender poll done a while back (with 1000+ votes, pretty big thread) but admins eventually deleted it because...I dunno, they didn't like the awkward truth I guess :p
 

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Aaron Sylvester said:
This forum has like 80-90% male users. There was an escapist gender poll done a while back (with 1000+ votes, pretty big thread) but admins eventually deleted it because...I dunno, they didn't like the awkward truth I guess :p
Fair enough, though there are even fewer than 1-2 male choices to every 10 female in here (as that ratio would suggest).

It's perhaps more telling how very few examples I can think of, even when I'm trying.
 

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pspman45 said:
Ninmecu said:
Clearly our very own Jim Sterling, god bless, constantly displaying lewd acts of depravity in an overtly sexual way while shining upon us the very light our starving souls need to justly smite his enemies. THANK GOD FOR JIM!
Jim Sterling sets an unrealistic expectation for both video games and video game journalists
I say, I say good sir. That Sir Jim Sterling sets the Gold Standard for both from the perspective of his subtle and at times overt sexualization of the human species(Amongst the others he's played.) And is an excellent measure of the form.

If you should continue not to accept him as second only to god in this regard, we shall have to end it with pistols at dawn.
 

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Silvanus said:
Aaron Sylvester said:
This forum has like 80-90% male users. There was an escapist gender poll done a while back (with 1000+ votes, pretty big thread) but admins eventually deleted it because...I dunno, they didn't like the awkward truth I guess :p
Fair enough, though there are even fewer than 1-2 male choices to every 10 female in here (as that ratio would suggest).

It's perhaps more telling how very few examples I can think of, even when I'm trying.
I don't think that the ratio of male to female escapists matter. There just aren't many examples of male sexulized characters. A male chracter that could be considered attractive sure, but sexulized? And that were sexulized right? (which I've been assuming we mean characters that were sexulized in ways that fit their characterization and/or the tone of the game). I guess Ringabel from Bravely Default in one of his alternate costumes could count. And I only say could because I don't believe that the costume is even available for download in the North American version of the game. But it does fit his personality and it would be Japan that made him.

 

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mecegirl said:
I don't think that the ratio of male to female escapists matter. There just aren't many examples of male sexulized characters.
Oh, I'd agree entirely there. I think sexualisation is very uneven-handed.
 

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BathorysGraveland2 said:
I'd say pretty much any of the female characters from Witcher 2. They are all pretty sexual in tone and appearance, yet they are still well written characters with plenty of other traits and their own ambitions. Basically, they aren't just tits and pretty faces. They have them and show them off, sure, but they also have personalities, goals and other assets. Sexuality is a part of their characters, not their defining arcs which I think is the best way to do a female character (unless the character is a prostitute or porn star, as obvious exceptions).
They only really suffer at all in the first Witcher game by comparison because you don't have enough of their background unless you've read the books. For example, the whole "sleep with Triss near the beginning" thing is less, well, odd seeming if you've read the books (all of which are prequel to the games) at which point Triss has an actual background and history and it seems much less out of place.

If you can't guess, I'm recommending anyone remotely interested in the Witcher read the damn books. At least the Last Wish (I won't have to implore you to keep going after that, you'll do it yourself).
 

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My girlfriend and I were just talking about this a couple weeks ago and decided the best examples were Dante from Devil May Cry and particular women in Final Fantasy, specifically FFX-2 girls and Lightning Returns do a great job. The key is making it a fantasy for both parties or keep the sexiness subtle (by videogame standards). Women think Dante is hot, there is no doubt about it, yet it doesn't feel awkward for guys playing him, they just have fun with the power fantasy. Similarly, the Final Fantasy women mentioned are in skimpy costumes that men can drool over while it's clearly not too overbearing to drive away female fans, as Final Fantasy is one of the few games I hear consistently mentioned by male and female gamers alike. Actually a few Final Fantasy men have also been sexualized well, might have something to do with it.

I've seen a lot of people mention characters like the Dead or Alive women and other similar characters, which I think are terrible examples. The sexiness is too distracting, to the point of making those not attracted to them feel awkward. Boobs are fine, just look at Lulu. It's a balancing act between how sexy they are and how distracting it is. Depth of character helps a lot for Lulu to keep her many cleavage shots from being too distracting for those uninterested. [Side note: being a badass is not depth of character, very tired of people saying "yeah she's sexy, but can kill people too" when defending some character.] Dante isn't all that deep, but he happens to be a male power fantasy along with having a smooth, constantly bare chest.

Now of course there are people that are exceptions to all this, i.e. women not bothered by fighting game females or men that feel weird playing as Dante, but I'm generalizing.
 

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Schadrach said:
They only really suffer at all in the first Witcher game by comparison because you don't have enough of their background unless you've read the books. For example, the whole "sleep with Triss near the beginning" thing is less, well, odd seeming if you've read the books (all of which are prequel to the games) at which point Triss has an actual background and history and it seems much less out of place.

If you can't guess, I'm recommending anyone remotely interested in the Witcher read the damn books. At least the Last Wish (I won't have to implore you to keep going after that, you'll do it yourself).
Indeed. The books are really damn good, though the available translations can be a little rough. I played the games first, so it was interesting seeing the original stories for some of the characters.

Also, something I've noticed: The first Witcher game gets a lot of shit for its supposed sexism, yet James Bond is a rather beloved character. They both share a similar womaniser trait, however. This is a little double standard I've observed, and one I really don't understand. Also, this isn't even to mention the actual lore reasons women might want to sleep with a Witcher - they're infertile and immune to disease. No risk of pregnancy or STD's.