Sherlock Holmes' Partner Watson is 8 Years Old in New Ace Attorney

[Qizx]

Oh for crying out loud. If you want a child, female Watson, sure, have her be a prodigy and whatnot. But an actual doctor? That's idiotic. And a medical doctor at that! When did they teach her anatomy and let her dissect rotting carcasses? When she was four?! I don't mind the gender swap nor the ridiculously young age, nor her being incredibly smart. I mean, there are tons of literature about child or teen detectives, master wizards, geniuses or genius-thieves[footnote]How old is Artemis Fowl in the first book? Twelve, I think?[/footnote], but at least have it make some sense.

This is the same game series where you cross-examine an Orca whale. AN ORCA WHALE. IN A COURT OF LAW.

And the best part:

IT WORKS.

Let's not forget another amazing animal testimony.

If you're willing to suspended your disbelief long enough to cross-examine a fucking parrot or orca whale in a court of law, I'm pretty sure you can handle an 8-year-old doctor. Seriously, these games are supposed to be silly. Chill out, broham.

The difference being that speaking animals isn't that weird of a concept, neither are most of the things I've seen here (unless i missed something, never played the game). I think the person who brought up the fact that they would have had to dissect/go through some pretty disgusting shit to get their medical degree was spot on.

 

[PunkRex]

Hey, Japan, ever thought about letting me play as, I dunno, an old dude? Or women, i'm not picky, anyone above the age of 30 will do. They can still be sexy/silly/quirky/kinky/made of spaghetti, just PLEASE, no more bloody kids with ridiculous brains!

 

[ElMinotoro]

Conan Doyle Estate: "So we have these two male adults. One is more empathetic and serves as the readership's point of view; the other is more rational and pretty much serves as another proponent of ratiocination, in much the same way as Edgar Allan Poe's Dupin. These are adults handling adult matters that sometimes tie into matters of national or international security."

Atlus: "I see your two boring realistic adults and I raise you a child and a bishounen. More Kawaii. Ace Attorney series needs More Kawaii! More! MORE! MOOOORE! RELEASE THE KAWAII, SUGOI!"

Me: "Yeah, no. I'll stick to the earlier Ace Attorney titles, where the Rule of Kawaii hadn't completely overridden versimilitude. That, and I'll stick to my Doyle anthology and Shadows over Baker Street."

I mean - I have no words. Is there nothing sacred, or must everything pass through the Moe-Moe Equalizer-slash-Meat Grinder?

I like the parts where you imply the Doyle estate owns any of Sherlock Holmes and thats there's somehow some kind of Authorial integrity. Conan Doyle was a bitchface who bowed under public pressure to bring back Holmes. He'd allow all kinds of crazy bullshit in sequels.

Me, I'm just hoping this game stll has watson preparing the heroin for holmes.

 

[RaikuFA]

Conan Doyle Estate: "So we have these two male adults. One is more empathetic and serves as the readership's point of view; the other is more rational and pretty much serves as another proponent of ratiocination, in much the same way as Edgar Allan Poe's Dupin. These are adults handling adult matters that sometimes tie into matters of national or international security."

Atlus: "I see your two boring realistic adults and I raise you a child and a bishounen. More Kawaii. Ace Attorney series needs More Kawaii! More! MORE! MOOOORE! RELEASE THE KAWAII, SUGOI!"

Me: "Yeah, no. I'll stick to the earlier Ace Attorney titles, where the Rule of Kawaii hadn't completely overridden versimilitude. That, and I'll stick to my Doyle anthology and Shadows over Baker Street."

I mean - I have no words. Is there nothing sacred, or must everything pass through the Moe-Moe Equalizer-slash-Meat Grinder?

Capcom is making it, not Atlus. Atlus would've made Moriarty Lucifer.

 

[xaszatm]

Conan Doyle Estate: "So we have these two male adults. One is more empathetic and serves as the readership's point of view; the other is more rational and pretty much serves as another proponent of ratiocination, in much the same way as Edgar Allan Poe's Dupin. These are adults handling adult matters that sometimes tie into matters of national or international security."

Atlus: "I see your two boring realistic adults and I raise you a child and a bishounen. More Kawaii. Ace Attorney series needs More Kawaii! More! MORE! MOOOORE! RELEASE THE KAWAII, SUGOI!"

Me: "Yeah, no. I'll stick to the earlier Ace Attorney titles, where the Rule of Kawaii hadn't completely overridden versimilitude. That, and I'll stick to my Doyle anthology and Shadows over Baker Street."

I mean - I have no words. Is there nothing sacred, or must everything pass through the Moe-Moe Equalizer-slash-Meat Grinder?

Because Watson being a dog, mouse, cyborg, female, hobbit, cat, time traveller, and ghost is alright, but THIS goes to far! This isn't that weird.

 

[Nurb]

Have her weild rediculously huge guns for the tri-fecta

 

[Flunk]

That sounds even stupider than the American show "Elementary". But it does sound tragically Japanese.

And Naruhodo? That's such a bad pun... (loosely translated that means "now I see", it's the sort of thing that investigators say a lot).

 

[Aiddon_v1legacy]

Conan Doyle Estate: "So we have these two male adults. One is more empathetic and serves as the readership's point of view; the other is more rational and pretty much serves as another proponent of ratiocination, in much the same way as Edgar Allan Poe's Dupin. These are adults handling adult matters that sometimes tie into matters of national or international security."

Atlus: "I see your two boring realistic adults and I raise you a child and a bishounen. More Kawaii. Ace Attorney series needs More Kawaii! More! MORE! MOOOORE! RELEASE THE KAWAII, SUGOI!"

Me: "Yeah, no. I'll stick to the earlier Ace Attorney titles, where the Rule of Kawaii hadn't completely overridden versimilitude. That, and I'll stick to my Doyle anthology and Shadows over Baker Street."

I mean - I have no words. Is there nothing sacred, or must everything pass through the Moe-Moe Equalizer-slash-Meat Grinder?

Because Watson being a dog, mouse, cyborg, female, hobbit, cat, time traveller, and ghost is alright, but THIS goes to far! This isn't that weird.

That and he screwed up who the company is; Ace Attorney is Capcom, not Atlus. If you're going to insult and lay a blanket statement on a company, make sure you're aiming at the right one. I say bring the madness as too much of the industry is trying to act like "adults" and look all the more juvenile for it. I fully expect the game to make people choke on their words in no time.

 

[xaszatm]

That sounds even stupider than the American show "Elementary". But it does sound tragically Japanese.

And Naruhodo? That's such a bad pun... (loosely translated that means "now I see", it's the sort of thing that investigators say a lot).

HEY, I like that show. What was wrong with it? I mean, I could see some people having problems with the second season but the series is good.

 

[Wall Meat]

I remember one time I saw Watson as an alien.

As long as she's not a useless bumbler I'm fine with this.

 

[Omnicrom]

Having played through Professor Layton vs Phoenix Wright let me just say this seems incredibly tame for this particular little genre of games.

 

[Kaimax]

Lol, people complaining about the 8 year old, it's like that they forgot there's Pearl Fey and then there was the time Mia entered her body.

 

[SweetShark]

It is my poison.....I NEED THIS NOW!!!
Also the characters of this series NEVER MADE SENSE!
Why SO Serious?

 

[The Wykydtron]

I am ok with this. Thankfully they can get away from the "dark age of the law" crap they've been going on about since Apollo Justice. I don't really get why they went for such a dark tone (by AA standards anyway) after the third game. Eh whatever, the first three games are the perfect example on how to do a trilogy correctly, the newer games can never take away from that.

I'm waiting for an AA game that leaves Phoenix behind and starts on all new characters, Phoenix's character's arc was pretty much over by the start of Dual Destinies or arguably T&T. Athena was a good start, hopefully they can elaborate more on her.

 

[Xerosch]

While I support the idea that an 8 year old doctor sounds strange and the implications could be worrying, I'm currently only interested in an European release date. The Ace Attorney series belongs to my most beloved video games. I'd buy every piece Capcom is willing to release. Doesn't matter if Watson is 8 or 80.

 

[Dr. Crawver]

I'm fine for a few chances to source lore in adaptions, but this one is way too far. If you wanted to say that maybe it wasn't Watson, and maybe someone Sherlock worked with before, then fine. Bit odd, but sure, why not. But these are hallmark characters for British (and to a lesser extent, international) culture. Make Watson female? Sure, that could create an interesting character study and dynamic. Make him younger/older? If you want, same thing goes for this.

But making him an absurdly young cute girl with cute anime hair (who we all know is going to act like a young cute anime girl), and will almost undoubtedly share nothing in common with the character but name and titles, then why even call her Watson?

If she turns out to behave like Watson, or at least resembles him in actions, while bringing in a different edge due to age and gender then fine, I'll happily admit I'm wrong. But I think we all know they didn't make him this character because they wanted to try a new dynamic with the Sherlock character. They did it for marketing and because they wanted a cute anime-esk character in the game.

 

[Dr. Crawver]

It is my poison.....I NEED THIS NOW!!!
Also the characters of this series NEVER MADE SENSE!
Why SO Serious?

Mostly because (as far as I know) up to this point they've always been original characters not having been spawned in other IP's. This however is an already established character, as well as being quite a big part of British and English culture, and even a little it in international culture.

You can debate how important people should take this, but is a different situation to normal.

 

[hermes]

This makes me think I am missing of something reaaaally special for not having a DS.

More power to Watson being a small child. It is far from the most bizarre thing I have seen him being (and those other works were trying for a serious tone).

 

[hermes]

It is my poison.....I NEED THIS NOW!!!
Also the characters of this series NEVER MADE SENSE!
Why SO Serious?

Mostly because (as far as I know) up to this point they've always been original characters not having been spawned in other IP's. This however is an already established character, as well as being quite a big part of British and English culture, and even a little it in international culture.

You can debate how important people should take this, but is a different situation to normal.

Sherlock Holmes is public domain... That is why there can be Sherlock, Elementary and a number of other concurrent adaptations of it without being considered plagiarism.

And this is far from the weirdest Holmes and Watson's representation...

 

[Dr. Crawver]

It is my poison.....I NEED THIS NOW!!!
Also the characters of this series NEVER MADE SENSE!
Why SO Serious?

Mostly because (as far as I know) up to this point they've always been original characters not having been spawned in other IP's. This however is an already established character, as well as being quite a big part of British and English culture, and even a little it in international culture.

You can debate how important people should take this, but is a different situation to normal.

Sherlock Holmes is public domain... That is why there can be Sherlock, Elementary and a number of other concurrent adaptations of it without being considered plagiarism.

And this is far from the weirdest Holmes and Watson's representation...

I never said anything about it being plagiarism or about it being public domain. Simply that he is an already existing character, which is different to other Ace Attorney characters.

And I'm sure it might not be. There's one where they're both mice, I even think there's one where he's a cyborg. However they've all got traits in common. What we're looking at here I will be honestly astounded if it even closely resembles what the Watson character id meant to be.

The reason why it bothers me is because Sherlock and Watson are significant parts of the English culture and folklore, like robin hood. It's similar I imagine if for Americans they took Uncle Sam and made him a stereotypical anime protagonist who yells at everything and is as thick as a brick. To some of us it can be an issue.