Sherlock Holmes Sequel Threatened by "Homoerotic Subtext"

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

Well besides the fact that he isn't gay as he has a female love interest in the movie why would it matter if he was gay. I wouldn't find him as a less appealing character if he was. His and Watson's relation in the movie is like J.D. and Turk's it isn't gay love it's guy love.

Spoiler

Let's face the facts about me and you, a love unspecified
though I'm proud to call you "chocolate bear"
the crowd will always talk and stare.

I feel exactly those feelings too
and that's why I keep them inside
'cause this bear can't bear the world's disdain
and sometimes it's easier to hide.

Than explain our guy love, that's all it is
guy love he's mine I'm his
there's nothing gay about it in our eyes.

You ask me 'bout this thing we share...

...and he tenderly replies.

It's guy love...

...between two guys.

We're closer than the average man and wife.

That's why our matching bracelets say Turk and J.D.

You know I'll stick by you for the rest of my life...

You're the only man who's ever been inside of me!

Whoa whoa! I just took out his appendix.

There's no need, to clarify...

Oh no?

Just let it grow more and more each day.
It's like I married my best friend...

But in a totally manly way!

Let's go!
It's guy love, don't compromise,
The feeling of some other guy.
Holding up your heart into the sky.

I'll be there to care through all the lows.

I'll be there to share the highs.

It's guy love, between two guys.

And when I say, "I love you, Turk,",
it's not what it implies.

It's guy love
between...
two...
guys.

No hands.

But yeah, This is stupid. It's not necessary to make them homosexual, and it's not necessary to be in an outrage over them being homosexual.

I know I just people today are sometimes very over sensitive about certain issues one thing I found annoying in a way was when people complained about killing black zombies in Res5 they forget that it's a game and even in the they aren't people anymore they were savage zombies. I suppose everyone has a different outlook.

 

[lvl9000_woot]

Wait... doesn't Holmes have a girlfriend in that movie?

Yeah, that totally makes him gay

We all knew that was just a cover...

 

[Ancientgamer]

So it's okay that Downey can make Holmes a brawler when in canon he was a passifist*

Sorry, what? Sure they emphasized the action elements of Holmes a fair bit in the movie, but when did the books ever say he was a pacifist? He even mentions he's an expert at Baritsu.

 

[AceDiamond]

So it's okay that Downey can make Holmes a brawler when in canon he was a passifist*

Sorry, what? Sure they emphasized the action elements of Holmes a fair bit in the movie, but when did the books ever say he was a pacifist? He even mentions he's an expert at Baritsu.

Let's also not forget that he and Watson carry firearms with them and have used them on occasion.

 

[Brockyman]

"I'm all for Downey to kick back and have a laugh and joke about it but as soon as it goes against MY interpretation of the character and MY view on how the characters would act if they were that little bit different then I'm afraid I'll have to pull the plug on the project because I have to have my own way."


Did anyone else read it as that or is it just me being in a bit of a bad mood?

I could see your point if it was a film critic or a studio executive. BUT, Andrea Plunket controls the US Copyright for usage of the Holmes name. Therefore a) she probably knows a hell of a lot more about the story then the Gui Ritchie and Downey. b) she maybe under orders from the Doyale estate not to allow it, and using her as a mouthpiece.

She is responsible for the use of the IP and honestly she has the right to say that. As much as most of us hate George Lucas for his fuck ups, he owns the rights and can do what he wishes, for good or ill.......

 

[Simriel]

Its a Bromance, not a Romance. Get it right people.

 

[SomeBritishDude]

[quote/]I am not hostile to homosexuals, but...[/quote]

Why is that every time I see those words it's followed by homophobia?

Homosexuals changes between "Black People" and "Jews" when the need arises.

 

[300lb. Samoan]

I guess the definition of 'subtext' is lost on this woman.

 

[Palindromemordnilap_v1legacy]

So it's okay that Downey can make Holmes a brawler when in canon he was a passifist*

Sorry, what? Sure they emphasized the action elements of Holmes a fair bit in the movie, but when did the books ever say he was a pacifist? He even mentions he's an expert at Baritsu.

Let's also not forget that he and Watson carry firearms with them and have used them on occasion.

And that Holmes would quite happily punch the living daylights out of someone attacking him

 

[Ancientgamer]

...
whats wrong with homosexuality?

if someone answers taboo, i will facepalm. Its not taboo, its a way of life that some people choose to live. im sure pro-gay activists (such as myself) are getting pissed over this.

Nothing wrong, it's just a total non-sequator for the character. What if they had a black Holmes? People wouldn't cry foul because they hate blacks, they'd cry foul because Holmes just isn't.

The better question here is why make him gay? If you're changing a character that much just make a new one.

 

[Lamppenkeyboard]

The movie only seems to be a Steampunkish psuedo-buddy-cop movie with the name Shelock Holmes slapped on the cover.

 

[John Funk]

...
whats wrong with homosexuality?

if someone answers taboo, i will facepalm. Its not taboo, its a way of life that some people choose to live. im sure pro-gay activists (such as myself) are getting pissed over this.

Nothing wrong, it's just a total non-sequator for the character. What if they had a black Holmes? People wouldn't cry foul because they hate blacks, they'd cry foul because Holmes just isn't.

The better question here is why make him gay? If you're changing a character that much just make a new one.

Patrick Stewart played a white Othello trying to integrate into a black society.

Just sayin'.



Also dammit, Holmes-on-Watson slash? That's what the INTERNET is for!

 

[Monkeytacoz]

after watching that movie, i never once thought Sherlock Holmes was gay. if they did make him gay that would be stupid

 

[katsa5]

^_^ I wanna hear Moviebob's opinion on this.

That seems a little extreme don't you think?

Just a little...I mean I have read the books and that context is even seen in those >< All about perspective.

People saying that the text implies that have been saying so since the first prints. Nothing but fanfiction dreams.

Not every two guys who are close friends have to be gay. Holmes and Watson certainly aren't gay, and to make them that way is just pandering needlessly to a minor demographic at the expense of any artistic dignity. It'd be reducing a modern-recreation of a classic character into a fan-service that crept from the dark corners of the internet.
No thanks.

Amen to that.

 

[Chancie]

Wow, that's a little...over the top.

Actually, some of the best parts of the movie were the two of them quarreling like a married couple, but it doesn't have to be perceived as gay, it's just funny.

This, really. I loved the parts when they argued. xD It was just funny and I didn't see it as gay either. It was more like long term friends.

With that, you can't tell me you've never argued like a married couple with a friend that you've known for a long time and obviously, that isn't supposed to be homosexual undertones. Or maybe it could be in your situation, I don't know.

But really. I think this is going a little too far. >.>

 

[katsa5]

They said the same thing about Lord of the Rings. Sad but true.

 

[Iampringles]

Wow... that's pretty... wow.

 

[Cmwissy]

Honestly - if they took their shirts off and made out I would probably laugh and say 'Well - that's good storytelling'

I don't see why in the 21st century homosexuality is still 'weird'

I think the movie lost it's adaption when Holmes was fist-fighting.

 

[Carlston]

Seriously? I'm a huge fan of the books and won't see this movie because it looks to treat them pretty lightly. So it's okay that Downey can make Holmes a brawler when in canon he was a passifist, but inserting gay subtext (some of which might already be there if you talk to some literary scholars) crosses the line?

*facepalm*

Accually Holems was known for Gentlemans boxing. "Only a ruffian strikes with a closed hand."
It was more he didn't need to, But this all smacks of the old arguements about Batman, Robin and Alfred....