SimuLord said:
So subhuman people create subhuman children and need to be stopped, is that it? Because someone is subhuman they have no right to be created? And because subhumans aren't capable of love and nurturing; only "acceptable" people are?
I don't think so. Human beings have human rights. And "won't someone please think of the children?" has been used to justify a whole lot of fascism (more than a little bit of it directed at video games, fascism which folks on this site rightly rail against). Those children are valuable to someone. Maybe not to you, since you don't think they're even human, but to someone---and certainly to their parents.
Unless you seriously want to contend that the mentally handicapped aren't human, and furthermore unless the UN Declaration of Human Rights means absolutely nothing to you, then your argument just doesn't work.
Sim, where do you get that I think these kids are subhuman? Seriously. And I'm not saying the handicapped should be FORBIDDEN to breed. I don't think you should be disallowed to stick a fork in a toaster. But that doesn't make it a good idea. And if you're telling me that even healthy kids raised by handicapped parents aren't at a disadvantage, well, I find that hard to believe. Or do you just see that I disagree with you and that makes me a eugenicist? What your opinion sounds like to me is that it's ok that these people lead shitty lives at minimal levels of substenance because hey, they've got love. Kid coulda been a rocket scientist, but he's at McDonald's WITH LOVE. Love's good, but ya shouldn't settle for just that.
And just so you don't think I'm Johnny elitist over here-I consider myself someone who shouldn't breed, and at the age of 35 I still haven't. I have issues that I would NEVER have the absolute SELFISHNESS to pass onto my children just so I could feel loved by some little creature.
People have rights? Fine. They also have responsibilities, too.