Should you be allowed to hurt/kill kids in video games?

PyroZombie

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theultimateend said:
TheDudeMan14 said:
In games like Fable 2, Fallout 3, Grand Theft Auto, and Prototype(just to name a few) you can't kill kids. Should game designers let you be able to kill/hurt kids.
Yes.

I want to give you a long drawn out reason why. But really there is no better reason beyond it being utterly nonsensical to not let you.

Games are not reality, anything done in them is not real, people who do terrible things that play games would have done terrible things if they didn't have games.

Game Actions do not lead to real life actions. So yes.

Damnit...that was longer than the original "Yes."
This.

To those of the people to think it would be sadistic, Tell me something: Would you not like to take out that foul mouth fuck in little lamplight, just for him being generally an ass? What if it's alma? To summerize, What if it's trying to kill you like the rest of world's children?

and a Message to future parent; If your child is a fucking psychopath, keep them away from the TV, the front door, and me.
 

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What confuses me is why the hell put kids in certain games at all? What is there point or function apart from to say, Yes, look at yet another clever composition of 1s and 0s we've made to get in your way and be pissing annoying.

But, that rant aside, I don't see what the difference between being allowed to kill an adult or child in a game is considering the fact that it's still NOT REAL no matter how old they are and, as the movie The Children proved, sometimes the kids simply have to die.
 

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I wish that you could in a game, but the backlash would enormous as soon as the press got ahold of the information. If it was all over the press, the game would become known solely for the ability to kill children. Such a news release would overshadow the rest of the game, and I doubt the designer would be terribly happy with everyone saying, "Oh yeah, you're the guy would made the kid-killing game."
 

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Yes.

Anyway, doesn't Bioshock pretty much focus around saving/killing little girls? That didn't really get that much controversy. So it should be alright in the media.

I am not a heartless person, and I don't think games should promote killing minors, but considering all the evil things you can do in some games I don't see why children should be taboo.

(Also, childless worlds like Oblivion and Saint's Row 2 are just creepy.)
 

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There's a mod for Fallout 3 that allows you to kill children.

I think that you should be allowed to kill children. I mean, we are allowed to, literally, blow up entire cities. So, why can't we kill some children.

Also, does anyone know what happens to the children
when you blow up Megaton?

Do they go to Little Lamplight or do they just die? If it's the latter then you do get to kill children.
 

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Seriously, I don't care.I never tried to murder a Child in a Videogame before, but hey, it's just a Game!Killing a Child is just as distasteful as killing Grandma Springs in Fallout or your loving Wife in Fable.
The only diffference is when you can kill children your Game will definetly be rated AO and that sucks for about everyone.
 

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they made a video game about Columbine. but that pissed the public off. i know thier not kids but you must take into consideration how the masses will feel. unfortunatly they matter(i am agaist the columbine game but thats prob cause i went to school there)
 

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dsau said:
they made a video game about Columbine. but that pissed the public off. i know thier not kids but you must take into consideration how the masses will feel. unfortunatly they matter(i am agaist the columbine game but thats prob cause i went to school there)
and theres a game where you get to pop JFK, but thats a 'ballistics simulator' so its ok.
 

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Xvito said:
There's a mod for Fallout 3 that allows you to kill children.

I think that you should be allowed to kill children. I mean, we are allowed to, literally, blow up entire cities. So, why can't we kill some children.

Also, does anyone know what happens to the children
when you blow up Megaton?

Do they go to Little Lamplight or do they just die? If it's the latter then you do get to kill children.
Yeah but there's a huge difference between blowing up a town where a few kids live from far away and putting a bullet into their little skulls.

With the bomb, their deaths are just implied. But the bullet thing lets you kill a child face-to-face and watch their grey matter and guts go flying and all that good stuff. That sounds like a big difference to me.
 

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TacticalAssassin1 said:
dsau said:
they made a video game about Columbine. but that pissed the public off. i know thier not kids but you must take into consideration how the masses will feel. unfortunatly they matter(i am agaist the columbine game but thats prob cause i went to school there)
and theres a game where you get to pop JFK, but thats a 'ballistics simulator' so its ok.
i dont even know what your trying to say, all im sayin is it will piss people the fuck off
 

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dsau said:
TacticalAssassin1 said:
dsau said:
they made a video game about Columbine. but that pissed the public off. i know thier not kids but you must take into consideration how the masses will feel. unfortunatly they matter(i am agaist the columbine game but thats prob cause i went to school there)
and theres a game where you get to pop JFK, but thats a 'ballistics simulator' so its ok.
i dont even know what your trying to say, all im sayin is it will piss people the fuck off
well yeah i agree. i guess if its justified then theyll just be pissed off and wont hate you for eternity, but i doubt that youll be able to find a game which justifies killing kids anyway...
 

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Yes. Why the hell not? Is a 14 year old's life more important somehow than a 20 year old's? No.
 

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theultimateend said:
TheDudeMan14 said:
In games like Fable 2, Fallout 3, Grand Theft Auto, and Prototype(just to name a few) you can't kill kids. Should game designers let you be able to kill/hurt kids.
Yes.

I want to give you a long drawn out reason why. But really there is no better reason beyond it being utterly nonsensical to not let you.

Games are not reality, anything done in them is not real, people who do terrible things that play games would have done terrible things if they didn't have games.

Game Actions do not lead to real life actions. So yes.

Damnit...that was longer than the original "Yes."
That may be the bare truth of it, but life and the way people behave is not as black and white as that statement.

Violence in video games doesn't necessarily cause people to behave violently in reality, but it can desensitize people to the concept of violence. Being able to off kids in a video game in general is a bad idea. People are fulla shit, man, and someone is more than likely gonna get a kick out of it. I believe developers should avoid it because of that, because there are impressionable idiots out there who shouldn't have certain concepts put in front of them.
 

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No! It's wrong.

Plus; It would just turn into a gimmick and we'd be stuck with dozens a kid-killing games.
 

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Little Lamplight would drive the most sane and child loving human to murder the little shits. Now i dont mind at all if i can or cannot kill children in a game, i would like the choice but given it i probably wouldnt use it much. But LL, it broke the story flow, We have to get the G.E.C.K!!

"Excuse me little children I need to save the wasteland from the evil Enclave, wait what you want me to go run stupid errands for you first?! No!, now get out of my way,.... oh point a gun at me will you, *equips gatling laser", get ouf of my way!, no okay you asked for it *click*, WTF!!? try my shotgun *click* ahh FFS what are we getting off message or something!!?, fine fuck it ill go run your pointless errand i hope you all get eaten by Super mutants you litle shits!"
 

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Casual Shinji said:
No! It's wrong.

Plus; It would just turn into a gimmick and we'd be stuck with dozens a kid-killing games.
How is it any more wrong than killing an adult?

And perhaps I have more faith in the game industry than you (*shiver* perhaps I shouldn't) but how would it become a gimmick when it used to be fairly common?
 

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Of course you should be able to kill kids, and if no-one has pointed it out yet then...

Deus Ex 2: Invisible War allows you to slaughter a whole school full of fresh faced youngsters, and it is absolutely fucking hilarious. It's about the only thing the game does right!!! All games should do this, if you want to be chaotic evil then when should some boring old conservative games designer stop you? And for that matter, where is rape in video games??? You have to buy specialist games from japan just to even have the option, and that's just sad...
 

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Vuljatar said:
Casual Shinji said:
No! It's wrong.

Plus; It would just turn into a gimmick and we'd be stuck with dozens a kid-killing games.
How is it any more wrong than killing an adult?

And perhaps I have more faith in the game industry than you (*shiver* perhaps I shouldn't) but how would it become a gimmick when it used to be fairly common?
Kids basically pose no threat what so ever. If it's a mutant psycho kid with a butcher-knife, sure, blast him. But just a regular 5-year-old on a tricycle? The only reason to kill a some innocent kid in a video-game is for shock value. And I think there should be certain lines we, as reasonable humans, shouldn'd cross.