im going to let you in on a little secret, the president only really gets a say in the small stuff, the majority still overrules him, if the people didn't want health care, it wouldnt happen, Obama does not guard all the doors, he does not hold all the keys. In fact, president is really more of a PR deal than anything else, Obama is like the spokesperson for you're government, mainly a figureheadberethond said:
Raregolddragon, the problem with that opinion is that there are poor people living on welfare watching their children die because they can't afford the pills that the men in the shiny black suits hold high above their heads, i bet if you where in a position more similiar to that you're opinion would be quite to the opposite, try to look at all sides of an issue before taking up a stanceRaregolddragon said:
The majority of Democrats want it. That's why it's on the table. Obama may influence the drafting of the bill, but he doesn't have any direct control over the language of any law. The constitution forbids the president to write legislation. It's a violation of separation of powers. The only thing the president can do is threaten to veto a bill if certain things are or are not in the bill.berethond said:
for that matter, they could have slipped something in there about distributing heroin to public schools. WHY ISN'T ANYONE TALKING ABOUT THE FREE HEROIN FOR CHILDREN??!?!JimmyBassatti said:
congress didn't read the patriot act or the stimulus bill. i don't have any faith in them reading this bill either.jockslap said:
yeah when my dad went on disability from work his health care covered him just fine.Raregolddragon said:
Oh really, now?berethond said:
JimmyBassatti said:
Explain to me how any insurance company can survive if they can't sign any new clients except for dependents of people who are already enrolled when this bill hits.http://waysandmeans.house.gov/media/pdf/111/AAHCA09001xml.pdf Pages 16-17 said:
Politicians and responsibility? Surely you jest, sir.jockslap said:
What about Medicare? That was created and ruin by the government and people on it don't seem to think it's mishandled (even if some of them demand that their representitives keep the government from getting involved in a system they run and created). If that could work, and if Universal Health care works in other countries (including mine), why couldn't it work there?Bob the Average said:
well disregarding the fact that i've never had trouble with them, the DMV is run by the state government, not the federal. it's a little bit like not trusting corporations with your health care because mcdonald's screws up your special orders all the time.Bob the Average said:
that's cute. why don't we actually look at that paragraph in context?Knonsense said:
that restriction pertains only to "grandfathered health insurance coverage". you can keep your current coverage, and if you have any children, that coverage applies to them too.
