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I've never liked Twitter. The people who created it, surely they would have known it would have been used like it is.
 

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Buffy
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With that kind of background, it's clear that this Joss Whedon guy is a menace to women everywhere. Pass the pitchforks!
 

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I remember the old days before all this social media. The day's that 4chan and 7chan fought in the Boxxy Wars.
 

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I can't say I blame Joss for leaving Twitter. The site has one big issue - that it is far easier to insult someone in 140 characters than it is to communicate a point. And it's even more difficult to convey a tone of voice in that space.

My sympathies to Joss Whedon - and everyone else who's had to put up with online harassment. Here's hoping Twitter finds a solution someday.
 

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Not only that, but Twitter is the reductive, 140 characters thing to the power of tumblr, as retweets are functionally the same thing as reblogs.

It's why I quit Twitter after about a weekend when I first tried it. It's not a bad site. It's the very best at doing exactly what it was designed to do, but it's just not for me. I like to explain myself. I like to be long-form and detailed and to really unwrap the things I and other people say. You can't do that on Twitter. If you're not punchy, you won't get any attention, so anything that may require some kind of clarification or deeper examination gets bastardised, while attention gets showered on those who choose to say something stupid and inflammatory because it's easier for everyone to understand, and thus the stupidity gets circulated far and wide.

People need to learn that, just because the internet has the power to be an awesome melting-pot of universal discussion, not every platform is the right place to have every debate.
 

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As I said in the Off Topic Discussion thread on this note:

RJ 17 said:
*In a pirate voice* Arrrgh! The loyalties of the rabid left be a harsh and fickle mistress!
Seriously, from what I can tell groups such as the over-aggressive feminists will never be satisfied because they don't want to be satisfied. If their grievances were ever addressed and resolved, they'd no longer have anything to be pissed off about...and then what would they do with their lives? They'd have lost their purpose.
 

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Liked, hash tagged, reblogged. I have no idea where to do any of that crap...nor do I care to. Social media sucks, everyone knows it and not even logic can stop it.
 

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burritos and soft tacos are basically the same thing except someone was too lazy to fold the soft taco 2 more times

also just wanted to brag, my local food truck has tongue burritos and they are delicious
 

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Social Media, and the internet in general, gives everyone a voice. Unfortunately, omni-pricks, who's mission is either to make another person's life miserable or are SJWs who refuse to have level headed discussions, will make their shrill voices heard.

While I'm not a fan of his, I don't blame Joss Whedon for quitting the twitters. Would you want to spending much, valuable time out of the day blocking (or even having an assistant do it) users sending you hateful messages, with no discussion value? As fans and constructive critics have lost a method of contact with one of the major people behind the MCU, the only real winners here are the people who want to watch the world burn, and DC, to a lesser extent.
 

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RJ 17 said:
As I said in the Off Topic Discussion thread on this note:

RJ 17 said:
*In a pirate voice* Arrrgh! The loyalties of the rabid left be a harsh and fickle mistress!
Seriously, from what I can tell groups such as the over-aggressive feminists will never be satisfied because they don't want to be satisfied. If their grievances were ever addressed and resolved, they'd no longer have anything to be pissed off about...and then what would they do with their lives? They'd have lost their purpose.
I prefer to see them living without a purpose than all of us living in a shitstorm. Luckily those aren't the only two options.
 

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It's obvious now that people will use their anonymity to say whatever is on the top of their heads, but I don't think the creators behind twitter knew how ridiculously vile it could become. Besides that, I have an idea of most twitter messages ranging between pointless and benign. We just tend to notice the horrible ones more...

I've found that discussing almost anything online evolves into standard responses. If someone is typing in a good-mannered way, people assume they're gullible. If someone states something, people will assume they're an arrogant know-it-all. If someone writes in an emotional way, others either respond to it in kind or assume them to be bi-polar freak without self control.

I find the most frustrating people to be those who refuse to consider any other viewpoint than their own. The worst ones are the hypocrits who flat out make no sense when they're caught breaking their own rules, and refuse to reassess the discussion.
Having grown up with instant messaging, chat channels and message boards, I've said some extremely stupid things (like most, if not all people) and facing those things really brings things into perspective.

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On the topic of Josh Wedon, it's a weird situation where he has to agree with whatever is politically correct. Judging from some of the stuff he's posted I'd say he doesn't know much about what's going on and that he doesn't have time to involve himself. All he has are half-truth cliff-notes to go on and a pretty face telling him what to think (I'm referring to the GG situation).

There's no way to win as a public figure, in a situation like that.
 

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008Zulu said:
The people who created it, surely they would have known it would have been used like it is.
The creators, maybe.

The shareholders though, all they care about is the ad revenue the regular shitstorms generate.
 

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I don't care how silly it sounds, but one of the things I am most proud of in my life is that I have never - and will never - had an account on a social network site.
 

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As a taco-kin, I am offended

The comic makes a great point but my offendedness outweighs my rational thinking
 
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rofl, I have a friend in real life who is JUST like that with cardcaptor sakura, except for she does it in person so it gets groan worthy when she goes off on it.


otherwise, spot on, these platforms have been lightning rods for cuntness.
 

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Where's the Escapist Like button? I can't find it! D:



[sup][sup]Seriously though, this is one of my favourite strips you've put together. You have my opinion on Social Media all in one convenient place. Now I can just explain my position with a comic, like everyone else! Why aren't you on twitter Redlin? This comic. Now I want a breakfast burrito.[/sup][/sup]
 

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I'm glad I use none of these. I actually have a twitter account, but I only used it to stalk one of the developers of The Binding Of Isaac to try and get some info on the upcoming add-on back then. Haven't touched it since. I do use YouTube, though. I know the comment sections are usually called the worst pits of damnation, but in reality, I don't think they're too bad. At least not in the comments for videos I tend to frequent.
 

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Simple... but rarely clean...

OT: Good thing I can't say the C-word otherwise I might end up being a C-word by unknowingly knowing what that means...

Other than that, who knew Erin could draw? Or chose to not use NGE as an example in this strip?
 

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Only social media I use is Facebook, and that one is for chatting with friends and knowing what's going on. I very rarely make a post on my wall for many to see, mayb 3-6 times a year. I usually chat and talk in the groups I'm a part of.

I've never had a Twitter or Instagram account and seeing how my friends use them... I don't need one either.
 

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Whatever happened to the days where we could express our displeasure in more than 140 characters? Feels like so long ago.
 

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My experience with Tumblr is a little different.

To me, Tumblr is a place where a bunch of slacktivists go to smugly make the least controversial social commentary among like-minded people so they can all pat each other on the back for being so progressive.
 

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What exactly happened to Joss Whedon? I've read an article or two but there were no specifics.
 

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RJ 17 said:
As I said in the Off Topic Discussion thread on this note:

RJ 17 said:
*In a pirate voice* Arrrgh! The loyalties of the rabid left be a harsh and fickle mistress!
Seriously, from what I can tell groups such as the over-aggressive feminists will never be satisfied because they don't want to be satisfied. If their grievances were ever addressed and resolved, they'd no longer have anything to be pissed off about...and then what would they do with their lives? They'd have lost their purpose.
What they'll do and have done is find more and more petty things to whine about so they have something to continue to crusade against because however they might have started out they have become obsessed with fighting against their victimization so much they can no longer recognize that they really aren't being victimized in any real sense anymore.

This is true of any advocacy group eventually, they all fight against legitimate problems (if they ever had anything legitimate in the first place) for so long that once those problems are solved rather than pat themselves on the back, congratulate themselves on a job well done, and get on with their lives like sensible people they simply work to find anything they possibly can no matter how insignificant if they don't make something up outright to continue fighting against. In short, legitimate attempts at revolution give way to fanaticism. The best case scenario is they go more and more petty until they realize what they are doing and stop, worst case they become so obsessed with undoing their victimization they start victimizing others, becoming the next oppressors that have to be fought against and the cycle continues.
 

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Bob_McMillan said:
What exactly happened to Joss Whedon? Ive read an artiacke or two but there were no specifics.
"Great feminist" Joss Whedon was rabidly shamed and harassed because Avengers Age of Utron was deemed too sexist and misogynist by the same kind of people he so proudly used to defend on twitter.
 

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Gatlank said:
Bob_McMillan said:
What exactly happened to Joss Whedon? Ive read an artiacke or two but there were no specifics.
"Great feminist" Joss Whedon was rabidly shamed and harassed because Avengers Age of Utron was deemed too sexist and misogynist by the same kind of people he so proudly used to defend on twitter.
Ah, so that's why they didn't actually mention who chased him off twitter.
 

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Bob_McMillan said:
Gatlank said:
Bob_McMillan said:
What exactly happened to Joss Whedon? Ive read an artiacke or two but there were no specifics.
"Great feminist" Joss Whedon was rabidly shamed and harassed because Avengers Age of Utron was deemed too sexist and misogynist by the same kind of people he so proudly used to defend on twitter.
Ah, so that's why they didn't actually mention who chased him off twitter.
You can check this thread too.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.874894-Joss-Whedon-deletes-twitter-account-following-mass-of-feminist-criticism?page=1
One of the posts has pics of some of the tweets he got.
 

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PsychicTaco115 said:
The comic makes a great point but my offendedness outweighs my rational thinking
So in other words you're just a generic internet goer? :p
 

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Burritos are only better because they are portable, and you can eat one while doing literally anything else

Tacos, due to their open nature, allow you to stuff way more meat, cheese, and other taco-y goodness into it than any mere burrito can handle
 

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DrownedAmmet said:
Burritos are only better because they are portable, and you can eat one while doing literally anything else

Tacos, due to their open nature, allow you to stuff way more meat, cheese, and other taco-y goodness into it than any mere burrito can handle
You poor soul. What kind of tiny-ass burritos have you been being fed?
 

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Problem with the 140 characters thing...

It's far easier to state a whole lot of bullshit in a small amount of words or time than it is to dismiss that same bullshit.
 

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Fulfill is spelled incorrectly in the comic.

...I'll crawl back in my hole now.

Agree pretty wholeheartedly with the spirit of the comic.
 

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It's true. But you want to know what the sad thing is?

These people type in three words of an uninformed opinion and we can't stop talking about them. That's the really sad thing. They barely have to try and the spotlight just zooms in on them.

Cuz we love some bullshit and to have someone to hate.
 

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My experience with Tumblr is a little different.

To me, Tumblr is a place where a bunch of slacktivists go to smugly make the least controversial social commentary among like-minded people so they can all pat each other on the back for being so progressive.
I've yet to find a single website where people don't smugly pat each other on the back for one thing or another. Tis the nature of the internet. People like echo chambers.
 

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Yeah, no. I never liked Twitter at all. I wish it never existed. Twitter is one of the biggest cancers of the internet.

Now if you'll excuse me, I need to hop on my Rascal and head to the park to yell at the kids.
 

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Solaire of Astora said:
Fulfill is spelled correctly in the comic.
Why... thank you for noticing. [http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/fulfil]
 

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The Wooster said:
Solaire of Astora said:
Fulfill is spelled correctly in the comic.
Why... thank you for noticing. [http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/fulfil]
What the fuck? I wasn't even aware that was also a correct spelling. I guess I got schooled. :(

Nice to know, though, I guess. Goddang weirdo non-American spellings of words.
 

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Digg and Reddit are missing from this comic, but I guess the less said about those two, the better.
Smilomaniac said:
It's obvious now that people will use their anonymity to say whatever is on the top of their heads, but I don't think the creators behind twitter knew how ridiculously vile it could become. Besides that, I have an idea of most twitter messages ranging between pointless and benign. We just tend to notice the horrible ones more...

I've found that discussing almost anything online evolves into standard responses. If someone is typing in a good-mannered way, people assume they're gullible. If someone states something, people will assume they're an arrogant know-it-all. If someone writes in an emotional way, others either respond to it in kind or assume them to be bi-polar freak without self control.

I find the most frustrating people to be those who refuse to consider any other viewpoint than their own. The worst ones are the hypocrits who flat out make no sense when they're caught breaking their own rules, and refuse to reassess the discussion.
Having grown up with instant messaging, chat channels and message boards, I've said some extremely stupid things (like most, if not all people) and facing those things really brings things into perspective.
And that right there is the smartest thing I've read about the problems with social media, especially Twitter and Tumbler. To me, those two sites, and Craigslist, are tainted by that kind of jackassery of misuse. If you act like an asshole on those places, you reveal yourself to be an asshole. I believe Phil Coulson put it best: "This is what I love about social media; the people are surveiling themselves."
 

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Lvl 64 Klutz said:
My experience with Tumblr is a little different.

To me, Tumblr is a place where a bunch of slacktivists go to smugly make the least controversial social commentary among like-minded people so they can all pat each other on the back for being so progressive.
And mine is just full of funny dog pictures and me promoting my own band. The internet is what you make it!
 

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What's wrong with Cardcaptor Sakura? D;

OT: I don't own any social media account stuff. I have a phone, and random people to talk to in pubs/bars.
 

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CaitSeith said:
RJ 17 said:
As I said in the Off Topic Discussion thread on this note:

RJ 17 said:
*In a pirate voice* Arrrgh! The loyalties of the rabid left be a harsh and fickle mistress!
Seriously, from what I can tell groups such as the over-aggressive feminists will never be satisfied because they don't want to be satisfied. If their grievances were ever addressed and resolved, they'd no longer have anything to be pissed off about...and then what would they do with their lives? They'd have lost their purpose.
I prefer to see them living without a purpose than all of us living in a shitstorm. Luckily those aren't the only two options.
Groups like PETA and some radical-feminist groups and religious groups only real purpose is make themselves feel like they're the only decent, moral people in the world. The best way to keep that up is to have ridiculously unrealistic expectations and interpret everything as uncharitably as possible. The purpose is their own ego and has nothing to do with anyone else.
 

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that looks nothing like josh whedon. 0/10
Well, I was going to point out that it looks nothing like JOSS Whedon, but now I'm just wondering who this Josh guy is.
 

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I've actually had a really good experience with Tumblr. Probably because all of the blogs I follow fall into one of three categories.

1. Artist's blogs, who are generally too poor and overworked to care about controversy.
2. "Ask-a-character" blogs that run for a couple months, peter out and disappear.
3. Blogatog.

I avoid all other social media like the plague.
 

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Between this and the group of dickbag writers who are boycotting PEN because of their tribute to the 'racist' Charlie Hebdo, it's been a pretty shit month for the 'left'.
 

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It seems like all nerds both love and hate Joss Whedon simultaneously. Personally I don't get either position.

But yeah, it speaks very well of human nature when the shortest, simplest, and one of the most unregulated platforms is the most popular.
 

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erttheking said:
It's true. But you want to know what the sad thing is?

These people type in three words of an uninformed opinion and we can't stop talking about them. That's the really sad thing. They barely have to try and the spotlight just zooms in on them.

Cuz we love some bullshit and to have someone to hate.
Which why, though I still hate Twitter, I don't blame it. We've always been like this. Twitter is just the newest way to express what hate-filled little creatures we really are.
 

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I've never understood the love people have for Whedon. Buffy was good and Angel had its moments and were my first encounters with his work when young but since then It's become obvious he can only write one character. He writes that character very well but it's still only one character.

OT: Every mention of this Snafu is hilarious. The fact is that people who identify as feminists harassed him over black widow and Scarlet witch and yet people are pulling the old "Just because they say they are feminists doesnt mean they are" That they supposedly hate. Says alot about the two camps currently stinking up the internet.

Whedon claims he just left twitter because he wanted quiet time but come on. Theres trying to defend your feminist cred and then theres just Vehemently denying that you are on fire while the flames slough your skin off.
 

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I read a little bit about this nonsense and people need to get a grip. What a bunch of self righteous assholes people are, they think they are better than yet attacking someone with such ferocity as to make them leave twitter shows that those people attacking him are the real assholes.
 

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Hutzpah Chicken said:
I remember the old days before all this social media. The day's that 4chan and 7chan fought in the Boxxy Wars.
My old days were when bandwidth was measured in 4 digit Baud rates...
I wish I could still remember anything else from that long ago.
 

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I don't care how silly it sounds, but one of the things I am most proud of in my life is that I have never - and will never - had an account on a social network site.
^ TallanKhan likes this.

OT: Every time I see a story like this I lose a little faith in humanity. There is something awfully toxic about the idea that a creative is "at fault" just because their output doesn't fit with any particular group's agenda. Criticism is one thing, criticism is positive, if you find something offensive, say so and if you feel that strongly don't buy the next thing they produce. That said, it is a huge leap from that to "I don't like what you made so you are in the wrong"
 

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I only have a Facebook to talk with friends, organise meetups with them and hear about news so I can Google it and attempt to find something unbiased/un-sensationalized (It's great exercise for your patience by the way). Never really cared about Twitter or Instagram or Vine or any of that newfangled stuff.
Problem is people take things on the internet too seriously, start following untested things and taking whatever guff they see at face value. People get scammed more easily and just seem to do whatever's hip and cool.
There's no fact checking anymore.
Got into a debate the other day with someone about Islam which started because they used the term 'Dark Ages' incorrectly.
World's knowledge at your fingertips and all that jazz.
 

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I'm kind of confused why people are blaming Joss Whedon's leaving twitter on angry feminists.

I thought he was attacked by angry fan boys who hated Age of Ultron and I was generally under the impression the movie didn't live up to the hype. Hell when I googled what the heck was going on this morning, the first thing that pops up is a Verge article that titled "Joss Whedon says angry feminists didn't drive him away from twitter."

Actually, he's essentially saying the entire internet drove him off the internet because he's looking for a quiet place to write.
 

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I could not agree more more. Burritos fucking rule!

And twitter gets to... Eeesh. You said it all the best, Grey.
I still fucking hate tumblr, too, but twitter's anti harassment policy is so fucking spectacularly useless, they might as well just Dox you themselves.

Also, marzipan condom!? Been watching some of Malcolm Tucker's greatest hits, I see :p
(though to be fair, he used 'marzipan dildo')
 

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So, has anyone here bothered to look up Whedon's OWN story in all of this?
http://www.buzzfeed.com/adambvary/joss-whedon-on-leaving-twitter#.svJP6yp5VO
 

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I think any online forum should have "don't be a ****" as their first rule.

Silverspetz said:
So, has anyone here bothered to look up Whedon's OWN story in all of this?
http://www.buzzfeed.com/adambvary/joss-whedon-on-leaving-twitter#.svJP6yp5VO
Yeah but you see he's just saying that because... erm... I got nothing.

I hate how many of these things turn out to be complete crap because people want everything to be simple "X caused Y because Zs are all idiots". Having said that the things said to him were still unacceptable
 

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Scars Unseen said:
With that kind of background, it's clear that this Joss Whedon guy is a menace to women everywhere. Pass the pitchforks!
He gave them a finger, they took his twitter.

By pandering to the SJW's, he put himself in the center of their attention.
An SJW cannot be pleased however, because if they are pleased, they aren't "oppressed", and when they aren't "oppressed", they don't really have much else in life.
 

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I feel like they've been warming up for like a week to do this comic, with their other comic involving the word ****, lol. Anyway, bravo. I completely agree. And the same goes for bumper stickers on cars.

"Hey, I've got a complex and storied opinion on a thing, but I'd rather boil it down to a simple blurb on the back of my car because being easily labelled and identified by both my peers and enemies is more important to me than being fully understood."
 

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It's really sad too, Joss Whedon courted this audience of radicals and it bit him in the ass.

Hoist by his own petard.
 

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It's really sad too, Joss Whedon courted this audience of radicals and it bit him in the ass.

Hoist by his own petard.
I wonder if he learned anything from the experience, considering the eagerness he believe the same claims when they weren't leveled at him previously. Hopefully more people see and learn that you don't need to out-radical-progressive everyone else by witchhunting lesser progressives like a pyramid scheme from hell. Hell, I'd settle for people realizing there is a difference between being for the Left and being a radical douchebag using that as a means to deflect criticism. Both from people looking at those who ran Joss off critically, and those within the left side of things who defended that sort of crazy behavior in the first place.
 

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Which is why you always look for sources to the alleged tweet/post. Because Tumblr is sin and lies!

Seriously, this is too true for me to handle.